The devastating consequences would be caused by the trade between the european nations faltering, i.e more trade restrictions. If the UK is allowed to cherry pick, enjoying all the benefits while not sharing the responsibilities of true members (along with Norway, Iceland and Switzerland), that endangers the EU.

Which in turn endangers the single market, Schengen and (partly) common currency in the Euro. All of whom are essential parts in removing trade barriers. Turmoil and insecurity would ensue. Losing a bit of trade with 1 country, the UK, is one thing (it's not like the entire UK will suddenly buy minis instead of those fantastic and shiny german cars. Wait, Mini belongs to a german car maker as well). The entire EU potentially collapsing and new trade barriers, bureaucracy, currency exchange, excessive border controls etc. springing up with another 26 former close trade partners, at least temporarily while new agreements are struck, is a whole different dimension.

Future standards and regulations might also start being more incompatible with each other if they're solely done in the nation states instead of together in the EU. Another trade barrier.

I was merely pointed out that your one-sided blame game in your initial post was rather silly. The UK is doing the exactly same thing that you bemoaned with the EU, and even started the entire process.

Right, so the EU is such a tottering house of cards that it'll collapse into an orgy of protectionism if little old UK remains in the Single Market, but leaves the EU.

Fine, so we can agree on a mutually beneficial free trade agreement instead with the UK outside the Single Market (cf. South Korea, Singapore etc). Everyone's happy.

Your last sentence is plain wrong. The UK is trying to minimise any economic damage from Brexit (democracy - what a bummer eh?). The EU is trying to maximise it.

Brexit strategists considered staunch - Fox, Farage, Gove, Redwood et al - are pretty open about their real goal, the destruction of the EU. It is their only justification for amputating the wealth of their own people. Only one side can emerge victorious.

fishing quotas are there for a reason....to stop fish running out of numbers due to over fishing.

most of the uk's immigration is from outside the eu....and a lot come from countries that pose a higher risk than the eu.

the laws we make are worse than the eu's....bedroom tax and austerity which affected the poor way more than the non poor.
brexits arguments are flawed.

easily led by a right wing drunk , a clown wit no mask and a wrongun.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15pr465Rvo

yes thanks for your concern outages are a pain down here lately

No problem, buddy. In case you missed it due to your bad internet, I can proudly tell you I did some investigation for the two of us. It turns out that the current quota on your beloved sea bass was due to the UK government requesting it as an emergency measure to preserve the fish. I was as shocked as you must be right now when I found out about it.

I mean, the entire year I had blamed the EU for it. I felt so super embarrassed when I found out it wasn't actually their fault and I been a total moron in that regard. In hindsight, even googling for 3 minutes about my beloved sea bass would've saved me from being so utter ignorant.

It's on the dedicated sea bass page of course

http://ec.europa.eu/fisheries/cfp/fishing_rules/sea-bass_en

Mark Carney is proving an abysmal governor, he should be swiftly replaced in my view.

Which is the next stop of the emergency request by the UK because your government is environmentally much more aware than you are. They want what's best for coming generations of British citizens. They want our grandsons to still be able to catch sea basses. Good to see you finally understand.

As you will know because you are an expert on the processes of the EU, you will know that the UK government also agreed to these new 2016 quotas.

Why do you want to be a total jerkass to the sea bass and eradicate it anyway? What did sea basses ever do to you?

It's the continuation of measures, d'uh!

Your reluctance to simply admit that these things are decided together, with the UK formally requesting measures and also having to agree to the quotas, so you can keep on being an ignorant hater and keep your view of the "tyrannical" EU is quite astonishing.

edy is the German Eddie Izzard.

Isn't Eddie Izzard against Brexit? I say "Let there be the hardest of hard Brexits", albeit for different reasons than the UK-based hardcore brexiteers.

having read the paper in more detail edy you are correct the UK asked for assistance with bass stocks in 2012. I find it strange they wish to penalise the solo angler though who is they claim responsible for 25% of all bass catches, were you an angler you would realise that their 25% figure is a joke read johnizere's post above. I also do not see why Austria, a landlocked country with no fishing fleet, can judicate on our waters or why Germany, Poland and all the ex commie block have a say when they don't even have bass stocks. If they want to tamper with your hairdryers and hoovers let them get on with it but these are our waters not the EU's and spineless governments have continually handed over our waters to the French, Spanish and Portuguese.

I'm sorry you are taking the vote to leave the corrupt EU so badly, there had to be a loser and unfortunately it was the pink beret crowd that lost. However stamping your feet and coming on here day after day telling people what a nasty ignorant country we are will win you no friends and probably affect your mental health, you only have to look at Hobknob's posts that poor luvvie is very close to the abyss.

OK you enjoy the rest of your weekend now oh and by the way I know what a jerkbait is but never heard of jerkass, I'm guessing it is homosexual language or something.

bigmo 14 Oct 16 13:49
A very interesting read. Many facts and figures here.

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http://cicero-group.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Brexit-negotiations-The-View-from-the-EU-2.pdf


That report states that there is 2.5 million EU migrants working in the UK.  Maybe cameron should've allowed them to vote.

" It's not about UK remaining in the single market and leaving the EU. It's about the UK staying in the single market, while e.g not paying into the budget and not respecting the four freedoms that all the other members of the single market have."

Edy, I suggested a simple and workable alternative that addresses your concerns. I notice you ignored that bit.

I don't believe EU officials or politicians of the various member states have said there won't be a trade agreement at some point with the UK.

If the UK loses access to the single market, you can bet on there being negotiations on a trade agreement. These are neither simple nor quick as dave already pointed out however, especially if the interests of 28 different nations have to be considered and those nations need to agree to it. Nor would it give full single market access.