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By:
zorrostrikes
When: 17 Jul 16 17:00
saw the one with the lady who does Taxidermy.
Polly Morgan - queezy.
went to school with Frank Quietly, he's featured
in the series. His Dad was the PE Teacher (died young).
his name was different then. Very small child,
quite unfriendly - I don't know why he changed his
name? He always wanted to be an artist. Was
getting advice from our art teacher about taking
more advanced art course options. I never realized
art was an option as a career. Working Class
comprehensive education. Went down the mines for twelve
years  before I hit the surface again.
big in the scottish comic book industry.
All very Alan Moore inspired work.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 17 Jul 16 17:08
By:
Foinavon
When: 18 Jul 16 09:21
Another I don't recognise unfortunately zorro although I'm sure many do.

This picture is two in one, the battered door in the top half and the excited kids waiting for the school bus at the bottom, but it seems to work.
I gave the painting to my brother-in-law and it's now in New York but I still have the photograph. Will probably paint it again one day.

By:
zorrostrikes
When: 18 Jul 16 14:59
Nice -
Have you thought about abstract oil painting
straight from the tube, using a palette knife.
You don't need turps and you could wear gloves.
You'd quickly get the feel for the paint.
It's the thinning down of the paint that needs
solvents.
When i first started out I couldn't use thinned
down paint it was too moveable, couldn't control
it. Gave up.
went back and just used it straight from the tube.
a lot easier to control. Quickly got used to it.

By:
Foinavon
When: 18 Jul 16 21:10
That's a very good portrait Zorro. Was it done with a palette knife?

I recall that Lowry said he used oil paints straight from the tube. He also said he only used certain colours from W&N but that was apparently not always the case.
Well I've bought some Galeria acrylics which were on special offer so will try those first.
Have you tried water dilutable oil paints? Might be worth a try but no offers someone will tell us they are total carp before long.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 18 Jul 16 21:17
susan sarandon?

i hate you all and now wont even try Surprised

i dont of course but am in complete admiration of the artists here.

lovely thread for a change
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 18 Jul 16 22:50
just a square brush.
saw the Lowry investigation prog with
Fiona Bruce, fake or fortune. Found pictures of
him with different variety of white than he said he
used. Its all ballz. you use whats handy at the
time. Sometimes they reduce in sales and you grab a
batch. they made a good show about a forger. a few
years ago who did Lowry forgeries. He was in the Fake or
fortune show. (artful codgers).
That guy was brilliant, really talented. made fake
antique statues. paintings etc. Should have stuck with the
statues though. getting a million a sculpture.
he tried to sell paintings that were still wet?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 18 Jul 16 22:51
By:
Foinavon
When: 19 Jul 16 10:47
I think you are right Jollyswagman. I googled images of the lady as it's the first I've heard of her. I go to a pub quiz where they have a picture round consisting of photos of "celebs". I'm amazed that most people can instantly put a name to them. I'm lucky if I recognise even one and then it's either a cricketer or politician.

I think it was the same programme Zorro. Lowry preferred using flake white which contains lead carbonate pigment but the analysis of the paint on the picture showed the presence of titanium white. Titanium white has greater covering power and is a "whiter" white and is consequently a harsher tone than lead white. As you say, it's often a case of what comes to hand.
By:
Foinavon
When: 19 Jul 16 14:41
Did you watch the Shirley Hughes programme MD?
Talented lady and very active for nearly ninety.Happy
Lovely little illustrations, she was using oil pastels to complement the gouache.
Still has a good eye and steady hand considering the quality of the sketches she did towards the end.
By:
Foinavon
When: 19 Jul 16 15:11
Here is a quick sketch from a magazine photo using soft pastels. They really are versatile and can be used to knock out pictures faster than using paint. This one took half to three quarters of an hour.

By:
zorrostrikes
When: 19 Jul 16 16:11
Wild - looks like a panel from a comic book by
Dave McKean

http://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/photo.goodreads.com/hostedimages/1447681740i/17037396.jpg
By:
Foinavon
When: 19 Jul 16 16:21
Surreal, I like the middle one.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 19 Jul 16 16:56
a lot of modern comic books have
good art - but the stories usually suck.

like one wrestler being pitted against
another wrestler.
Very few good stories.
the old pulps and sci fi comics
are the sources of many a scientist's
theories. I was reading about other dimensions
in the sixties comics. It took main stream
science twenty years to take that stuff seriously.
By:
Foinavon
When: 19 Jul 16 17:21
I think they are talking about 11 dimensions now.

Hadn't heard of McKean so looked up images but can't find one which corresponds. I found this free diving image which is something like but from a different angle.
http://images.beyazgazete.com/fotogaleri/2012/2/7901_dunya-serbest-dalis-sampiyonu-sahika-ercumen_686932.jpg
I was attracted by the surface turbulence which looks like a roller and needed to do it quickly to capture the spontaneous movement although there are obvious inaccuracies in the figure. I don't think these matter.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 19 Jul 16 18:57
I'm a big time swimmer - learned at thirty.
Now swim a hundred breadths every visit.
try to go three days a week.
gave a painting to my swim teacher - will try and
upload the photo i took of it.
Will take time to be approved.

like the flippers she's wearing.
i looked up webbed hand gloves on ebay
last month to improve swimming?
really silly.
even portable breathers that they
are promising in science mags.
By:
Foinavon
When: 19 Jul 16 19:02
Used to love swimming in the sea when we holidayed in warmer climes. The extra buoyancy is great.
Don't care for the chlorine in public swimming pools, haven't been for years.
Might take it up again though since my knees are giving out and I can't walk as far as I used to. Will still need the exercise.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 20 Jul 16 01:44
oi vey - the knees.
I used to run 5k a day for years.
knees can't handle stairs.
But started grinding egg shells into powder.
the thin bit of rubbery stuff between the
shell and the egg is meant to be good for
your knees. check out youtube for prep.
if it grabs you.

swim pick was scanned in two sections -
colours aren't a match - could take it into
photoshop and fix it? but it's a low rez pic.
i'd need to find the original scans?

By:
Foinavon
When: 20 Jul 16 10:03
Very well observed Zorro. I like the way light catches the calf and the heel, nice touch.
I did a high diving pic in pastels a few years back, will see if I can find it.

Used to be a cross country runner too and still try to walk 2 miles every day but climbing stairs is becoming painful and can hear the joints grinding. Onset of arthritis I think, nothing much to be done about it.
By:
Foinavon
When: 20 Jul 16 10:20
A couple of little tips for anyone starting out with watercolours illustrated in this painting.

The mottled effect of the fur hat and dark background was achieved by sprinkling dishwasher salt  onto the wet paint and gently brushing it off when completely dry. Dishwasher salt has large crystals and gives a coarser texturing than table salt.
The stripes on the tunic were made by first using the end of the wooden brush handle on dry paper to slightly compress but not damage the surface. When the colour wash is applied the pigment pools preferentially in the compressed areas.

By:
zorrostrikes
When: 20 Jul 16 14:49
I've used the salt technique myself in watercolour.
the swimmer was probably my last watercolour.
moved onto oil painting. I did buy a watercolour pad
last month intending to get back to it - but i've
lost the feel for it. Forgotten a lot.
I used to crunch up a carrier bag and use it as a
blotter to give pattern to large empty areas.
you had to lift it up after pressing and use a
clean bit each time. I remember using glycerine
to retard the drying process in watercolour.
got it in boots the chemist. I tried to get
good watercolour papers years ago - buying cotman?
300 gsm - I should have kept a note of what papers
were best. I remember trying to get the same paper
as Russel Flint used? Maybe look that up?
I wrote that down somewhere.
I found using the back of mounting board was
quite good too. It held the water without warping.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 20 Jul 16 23:45
went swimming - they opened up the deep end. Nice.
Youtube has swimming tutorials so got a few tips
to improve my swim. Real quiet. Not busy. No spratts
in the water coming across your swim lane.

By:
Foinavon
When: 21 Jul 16 12:14
Watercolour paper varies quite a lot not just the texture but the sizing too. Some I can't get on with because the paint won't flow very well.
A good low cost paper is Bockingford although I sometimes use Saunders Waterford. Usually use cold pressed but some of my best work was done on hot pressed paper although the paint is more difficult to control. Scrunched up plastic film is useful for special effects, don't always get what you bargained for, but it's the occasional pleasant surprises which are most satisfying.
I use kitchen paper quite a lot for controlling paint density on the picture and it's become a very useful tool with practice.
I don't bother with additives and never use masking fluid although wax resist comes in handy now and then.

Found my diver. Soft pastel on paper. Not one of my better pieces but hey ho.

By:
Velasquez
When: 21 Jul 16 15:22
Have you ever considered...a PAPER MAKING workshop...? Mischief
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 21 Jul 16 15:46
really really like the diver.
very bold solid colours.

i remembered what paper Russell Flint used.
Arnold - don't know if they still make it.
tried googling it last night - maybe I didn't
search right. I rate him as the best I've seen
so far, so you try to figure out what he was
doing.
watercolour is very tricky - best one i did
was very spontaneous and quick. I think maybe
if i were a little drunk it would come out better.
don't drink at all - not got the constitution for it.
tried throwing it at the paper, but it didn't come out
the way I wanted it - somewhere inbetween.
here is that experiment - not the good one.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 21 Jul 16 16:06
By:
Foinavon
When: 21 Jul 16 16:34
Are you going to post a few of yours Vel?

Have seen paper being hand made using a frame. Looks easier than it probably is.
By:
Foinavon
When: 21 Jul 16 16:41
Yours is watercolour in the modern style Zorro complete with runs.

WRF was a contemporary of Walter Langley and I really like his work. Both were watercolourists, Russell Flint having a looser more modern style to our eyes. He also painted more t1ts and büms which is a plus Excited
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 21 Jul 16 18:05


think i painted over this? not sure why?

will look at Walter Langley - gaps in my art history.

always like to see new good stuff.

- found an artist last month
ali cavanaugh - nice watercolours - nice being awesome.
By:
Foinavon
When: 21 Jul 16 19:02
I like it. Gives an impression of driving through the desert in extreme heat. What was the name of the film where two American women did that, committing hold-ups on the way?
Reminds me of another pastel drawing I did with a red car (more searching among my dusty archives beckons Grin).

Looked up Ali Cavanaugh. New to me. A quick scan of images shows mainly portraits of young girls and babies. One has to be female to do that with impunity these days.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 21 Jul 16 20:42
beautiful rendering. Faces have three dimensional quality.
with the abstract staining to make shapes.
very jealous of her style.

Thelma and Louise - brad pitt makes an appearance.
must be one of his first roles.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 21 Jul 16 20:43
looked at walter Langley - still like russel flint better.

By:
Foinavon
When: 21 Jul 16 20:44
That's it. Memorable film although I couldn't recall the title.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 21 Jul 16 21:36
"Did you watch the Shirley Hughes programme MD?"

I watched it yesterday, Foinavon.

I loved her work. A wonderful lady Love
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 21 Jul 16 21:40
Loving this thread Love
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 21 Jul 16 21:50
really good.
it showed her thumbing through illos
by Arthur Rackham.
worth a google image search.
By:
Velasquez
When: 21 Jul 16 21:53
Foinavon - I'm building shelves and all my photo-files are in the garage. I've got nothing on the desk top. I've got some old photos from the 1980s that I could scan. I'll try to post something anyway. Keep the thread going.

I did loads of copies of Whistler, Sargent and Scottish Colourists. A local framer used to sell them for me...copies of famous paintings. Still the best way to learn.
By:
Velasquez
When: 21 Jul 16 21:58
This was back in the 80s, like. No way am I posting later stuff...Grin
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 21 Jul 16 22:01
Velasquez, you have just reminded me of Mr Bean and Whistler's Mother Laugh Laugh Laugh
By:
Velasquez
When: 21 Jul 16 22:11
Laugh
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