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By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 16 18:43
They are exceptionally good Velasquez, lovely subject matter. Is that a heat lamp or a death ray? Cool
I like the blue reflections on the armchair...feels like squeaky leather.
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 16 18:50
Sorry it had slipped my mind Zorro, we now have enough pictures to rival Bigmo's photo thread.
I remember thinking at the time that it reminded me of Piet Mondrian (he of the Hitler moustache) and his grey tree paintings.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 25 Jul 16 18:56
Wow! Velasquez!

Is the lady in the chair your wife?

I can't believe you guys!
By:
Velasquez
When: 25 Jul 16 18:59
Yes - think it might have been a vinyl re-cover...went for the cheap option...2nd painting is clearly application of vit.D...these are circa 1987 or 88...was churning out paintings at the time. The heatlamp one was painted on an old canvas deckchair and they were both painted with acrylic paint.
By:
Velasquez
When: 25 Jul 16 19:00
Makybe Diva - that's a portrait of my sister.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 25 Jul 16 19:02
You have a very attractive sister.
By:
Velasquez
When: 25 Jul 16 19:16
You used to be able to buy big sheets of thick grey cardboard in the art shop for £1.50 and I'd cut them with a craft knife and prime them with trade emulsion - vinyl silk, so that the acrylic paint didn't sink on the surface. You could just swish the paint about and dry it with a hair-dryer. You could use acrylic glazing medium to paint in layers.
By:
Velasquez
When: 25 Jul 16 19:34
Foinavon - google Elizabeth Blackadder...famous Scottish painter.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 25 Jul 16 20:23
nice work valesquez.

heat lamp with light reflections is great.



pointillism - did this in 1988, think it was taken from
a dan dare illustration. Cant remember.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 25 Jul 16 20:24
By:
Velasquez
When: 25 Jul 16 22:51
Cracking portrait of Tsonga...Mischief
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 26 Jul 16 03:31
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 26 Jul 16 03:32
done in 1987 - added purple in photoshop.
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 26 Jul 16 07:38
I'm usually fine with animals but my landscapes are simply rubbish:













By:
zorrostrikes
When: 26 Jul 16 14:59
spent an hour on this last night



inspired by David Icke's madness
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 26 Jul 16 18:50
By:
Foinavon
When: 27 Jul 16 01:13
Thanks for the reference to Elizabeth Blackadder, Velasquez. Some lovely watercolours of flowers.
This landscape was painted from a holiday snap of St Abbs at sunset. Breaks a few "rules" but that's what rules are for.

By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 27 Jul 16 08:12
Lol, Johnny. I like that. Love the little birdie Love
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 28 Jul 16 02:16
By:
Foinavon
When: 28 Jul 16 18:22
I like this version too Zorro, who is the model? I assume she's some kind of "celeb".

Is this a computer generated image too or is it paint on a physical surface?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 29 Jul 16 03:44
littlewoods catalog photo.

oil painting on wooden panel.

sold it in 2001? gallery.

just get general dimensions then
abandon the photo and freework it.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 29 Jul 16 07:24
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 29 Jul 16 07:25
mine's bigger than yours... make my day.
By:
Foinavon
When: 29 Jul 16 09:20
Well done! I can see it's the sort of thing that would sell. Have you tried selling prints?
By:
Foinavon
When: 29 Jul 16 09:34
Eric Kennington was injured while serving in WW1. Following his recovery he was commissioned as a war artist and returned to France. He also served as a war artist in WW2.
Trench raiders operating in small teams would stealthily attack enemy trenches at night, silently killing the guards before causing as much damage as possible then retreating.
This pastel drawing is based on Kennington's drawing "Raider with cosh".

By:
Foinavon
When: 29 Jul 16 22:54
Another landscape, pastel on paper.

By:
zorrostrikes
When: 29 Jul 16 23:42
just for my own wall - i painted over it.
taken from a famous photo so not a good idea
to try and sell it. Re-used the canvas.
Just have the photo left.

paintings of men fashioning lethal
home made weapons. ?
primitive swarzeneggar footage.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 29 Jul 16 23:43
french lieutenant's women quay?
By:
Foinavon
When: 29 Jul 16 23:49
Was more concerned about the cigarette than the club or the pig-sticker bayonet.
By:
Foinavon
When: 29 Jul 16 23:53
french lieutenant's women quay?

I don't know, I haven't seen the film. It was based on what I thought was a random photo...
By:
akabula
When: 29 Jul 16 23:56
It's quite a haunting image Foinavon.
Would hang that on my wall.
By:
Foinavon
When: 30 Jul 16 00:21
Thanks Akabula. Most of the images I've posted are stored in their original pads out of sight and out of mind.A few have been framed and are on the wall but not this one. Perhaps I should do it.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 30 Jul 16 09:28
Lovely painting Foinavon. It does look like The Cobb in Lyme Regis.

What size paper is it on? And what size paper do you normally use?
By:
Foinavon
When: 30 Jul 16 11:30
Thanks for the reference M-D. I've never visited Lyme Regis but looked up some images and agree with you.

The drawing is on Daler Rowney pastel paper and is on a darkish blue tinted sheet. The dimensions are 16 x 12 inches which is my preferred size although the soldier was done on 12 x9 inches. I buy standard pads of assorted coloured sheets and the Daler pads have protective plastic sheets interleaved between the drawing pages which help prevent lift off and smudging.
There are other suppliers and I've used Fabriano paper and pastel pad. The latter is expensive but is excellent for beginners as it holds the pastel really well and many layers can be built up without filling the grain. Worth trying them all to see which suits your style best.
It's worth getting a few pastel pencils too for fine details.
A final tip, I never use graphite pencil for the initial drawing as it rejects soft pastel. Instead I use a yellow pastel pencil which can be easily covered or erased.
Hope to see some of your drawings before too long.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 30 Jul 16 11:56
Thanks for all the info, Foinavon Love

Last time I did some pastel drawing I remember using a pad of paper which I think would have been 16x12. I think I wil keep to this size.

It was various shades of pinks, beiges, light browns and pale yellows. I was only into portraits at the time so I think this was probably best for that.

This time I will be concentrating on landscapes so I'm thinking a different colour might be better.

As I have said earlier on here, I have about 20 Conte pastel pencils. I will need to build on those.

I didn't use a proper easel, just a board on my lap to which I fixed the paper with masking tape....oooh it's all coming back to me now lol.

I used to sharpen my pencils with a knife and used a rubber which I think must have been specially for pastels. I'm thinking I may have used a light brown pastel pencil for drawing outlines, I'm not sure.

Anyway that is all the equipment I used.

I have been reading my Jenny Keal book. It is very good. Just what I want to get me started again. I have some questions about it, will post separately. Hope you don't mind all this Blush
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 30 Jul 16 12:16
Ok, so, Jenny talks about different paper to use but I see she seems to prefer artists grade sandpaper. It's what she uses in all her demonstrations in the book. I hate sandpaper, so won't be using this. Have you ever used sandpaper?

Anyway, I have seen the Daler Rowney paper you mentioned so I will buy some of that.

I have never used soft pastel sticks, only pencils. I think I need to use both. It puts me off that she says they make a mess everywhere. It seems like this cannot be avoided. Do you make a mess Blush

I'm not sure wether to get the little short stubby sticks or longer ones which might only break anyway. It seems I will need an awful lot of shades to get a good result. What pastels do you use, apart from Conte pencils?.

Jenny says the same as you that graphite pencil is not good, she recommends charcoal pencil. I think I will get one of those.

I will bet some colour shapers that she recommends. Sizes 2 and 6. I didn't use them before.

I will buy a portable board. I have seen them with a metal clip, so no need for masking tape.
Maybe it would be best work from the pad. What do you think?

I will sort out what I am going to buy and post the links later. Make sure I'm buying good stuff Happy
By:
Foinavon
When: 30 Jul 16 12:42
Don't mind your questions at all M-D, pleased to help all I can.

I don't use sandpaper as it wears down your pastels in no time. The Fabriano paper was called "Tiziano", was more expensive and no better than Daler imo.
I have a 64 colour box of inscribe pastels from WHS which are very cheap and quite good although I find the colours harsh and primary. I have a very expensive set called Unison which are lovely to use and have very subtle colours suitable for portraits. I use these sparingly. My collection is completed with a number of harder pastels of squarish shape which I think are Reeves and Daler picked up from various discounters like "The Range". I also have a few boxes of white,grey and sanguine chalks for monochrome for limited colour drawings. Also have compressed charcoal and conte pencils of various grades. You don't need all that for starters but would recommend a box of the Inscribe pastels as they cost peanuts and are a basic workhorse.
I work on the flat with the pad on my desk and just blow or shake off any excess periodically.
If I need a lot of layering I will do an intermediate fix with a very light misting of hairspray. (Tesco economy works as well as anything and has the advantage of not being perfumes and costs less than a pound). Use the harder pastels first and finish with the soft chalky Conte ones. I don't make much mess and a damp piece of kitchen paper will clean up any dust. It does make the hands dirty though and a lot of scumbling with the fingers can degrease and make them feel sore. Easy to wash off afterwards and use a bit of hand cream.
Colour shapers are useful for fine detail but generally use the fingers otherwise.
Off out now, will look in again this evening.Happy
By:
Velasquez
When: 30 Jul 16 14:04
OK, here is the V-METHOD for pastels...Plain

Get some wooden stretchers from the art store...say you wanna do a pastel pic 18 by 26 inches...get some cotton duck canvas or some old linen blinds or even old linen bedsheets...stretch the material as tight as you can get it...you'll need a staple gun obviously.

Now spray the stretched canvas with just water and let it dry...then mix up a fairly fluid batch of acrylic...grey, ochre, dark brown...whatever...I like to work against a mid-grey or olive green...make the acrylic quite watery...now brush it onto the raw cotton duck...when it dries, you will have a great tooth/surface to draw on...the pastels really sparkle on this surface, though it's best to use the cheaper, thicker chalks you can buy, as it really rips the pastels.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 30 Jul 16 14:22
That sounds a bit ambitious for me at the moment, Velasquez but thanks Grin This thread is great!

Thank you Foinavon for your post. I will study it carefully then order my stuff. So glad you like Inscribe, I had been looking at those on Amazon. I will deffo buy sime of them then Happy

I have just found some old pencil sketches that must have escaped being sent to the tip with Freddie Mercury and Emma Thompson.

I have taken some pictures of them on my iPad.They are very simple drawings nowhere near anything anyone here has done. Maybe a bit better than Crags' stick man Laugh 

I will post them if I can. I have no shame Blush
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 30 Jul 16 14:29
Oh, I don't have a valid version of Flash on my iPad so can't upload photos Sad

The ones on there already were done on my old laptop that broke.

Maybe I can put them on photo bucket and do them from there at the library Confused
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