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By:
Velasquez
When: 02 Jan 17 19:15
Groovy! Grin
By:
Velasquez
When: 02 Jan 17 19:19
You can tell all those women are obsessed with that pie muncher in the bottom right corner, who is clearly a Zanussi washing machine salesman.
By:
Velasquez
When: 02 Jan 17 20:22


NEXT STAGE ; I have no photo, Crags, so I had to produce a SQUARED UP drawing from the image on the computer, with my trusty ruler and Stoke City FC pencil...next stage is to draw that simplified image on the canvas...hopefully on Thursday or Friday...
By:
Velasquez
When: 02 Jan 17 20:27
FOR CONSPIRACY THEORISTS -- note possible reference to TUPAC and KATE BUSH collaboration which has yet to be made public...
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 14:35
Iz TUPAC a reference to TUPAC Shakur, Vel? (I'm not really that knowledgeable but GOOGLE helped me out).
Your image is nicely squared up, do you have an app for gridding the image on-screen?
I usually draw a centre line and eye level then check key points with dividers. Have to admit, small screen images are tricky
when scaling up to A3 or bigger.
Must get my drawing started. Zorro said on another thread that the rapture is for this year so have to get a move on Scared
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 14:44
No...no app...but you can grid images on COMPUTER screen - sadly,I have no printer at the moment. You can grid images using photoshop or some other programme...I'm clueless but my brother showed me what to do...

As long as you keep the image and squares in proportion, it's very accurate...it's an old master technique for viewfinders...it was shown up well in the film THE DRAUGHTSMAN's CONTRACT. Durer, Mantegna, etc. used the technique.
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 14:50


THE APOTHEOSIS OF CRAGS...A POSTER FOR MY NEW PLAY ABOUT A POP FAN WHO MEETS HIS HEROINE ON THE YORKSHIRE MOORS THROUGH THE SEASONS: WHILE THEY WALK THEIR TERRIERS, THEY PERFORM DUETS, RANGING FROM QUIRKY NUMBERS ABOUT CULTS TO POWER BALLADS ABOUT THE DANGERS OF INTERNET FORUMS.
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 14:55
Thanks, I don't have a printer either, chucked it in the bin when the cartridges kept drying up. Rip off merchants Angry
I see you are going to make a start on the canvas tomorrow. Good luck. My drawing is going straight onto paper. Not sure if it will be gouache or pastel yet
see how it grabs me at the time.
It feels a bit lonely without Crags to taunt, I suppose we will get used to it.
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 14:56
Once you've gridded the image on screen or photo, you just draw lines manually, using a ruler and pencil or chalk on paper, board, canvas, or whatever support you are using...a lot of artists like to grid up their drawings if they are working on a large scale...I'll try to post screencaps later...
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 14:58
Can't start tomorrow as I'm stranded elsewhere, but hope to start on Friday...just thinking...CHUCK CLOSE is an artist whose entire work is based on grid systems.
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 15:03
What you are saying, Foinavon, about making little marks and  notations on the painting...you can see this in the paintings of EUAN UGLOW and SIR WILLIAM COLDSTREAM...
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 15:06
Very good Laugh I see you have been busy. Crags is still waiting for that red felt pen Angry
Perhaps we should call him by his real name, which is Colin. (Colin Rudolph Alexander Golightly Setterington in fact).
I'll look up Chuck Close, the name sounds familiat.
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 15:06
In STANLEY SPENCER paintings, he has painted very thinly with oils and the paint is sinking into the canvas, and you can see the original pencil grids through the increasingly transparent paint.
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 15:07
Colin Rudolph Alexander Golightly Setterington.....Laugh
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 15:17
Yes, I usually end up with lots of little marks showing the edges of mouth nose eyes including irises and ears. It's then a question of joining up the dots like the kids' drawing books of zoo animals. (Can you guess what it is yet?) Grin
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 15:23
This pastel copy of a Millais is an example

By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 15:30
Beautiful reflecting colours, Foinavon...this is the best way to learn classical techniques imo...
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 15:40
It was called "Portrait of a Girl" and is a painting of Sophy Gray who was his 13-year-old muse at the time.

I see what you mean about Chuck Close, lots of mosaic-like pixellated portraits. I've seen the black and white self-portrait of him as a wasted young man with fly-away hair and a cigarette before.
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 16:25


CHUCK CLOSE...PROBABLY A HUGE PAINTING...PROBABLY PAINTED WITH THIN ACRYLIC ON BARE CANVAS.
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 16:28


YOU COULD USE WHITE PENCIL OR CHINA MARKER ON COLOURED GROUND...
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 16:30


COMPUTER IMAGE...WITH RULED LINES FROM PHOTOSHOP...A BIT SKEWED IN MY PHOTO...
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 16:32
OBVIOUSLY, ALL THE LINES HAVE TO BE DRAWN PARALLEL TO PICTURE PLANES...AT 90 DEGREE ANGLE...PHOTO IS WELL OFF...
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 16:33
I LIKE TO THINK OF THIS AS..........TRANSLATION.....Grin
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 16:35
THE MATRIX...Excited
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 17:42
Realistic drawing of Obama, wonder how long that took.

Looks like a useful tool Vel, need to take a lot of care drawing those squares I should think.
I don't have photoshop since you have to pay for it. I need something though as often my photos often don't do justice to the colour strength of my paintings.
Digital photography has its limitations. Someone must know a good free photo editor.

Do you know who Alex "Lexo" Setterington is?
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 17:46
YOU COULD USE WHITE PENCIL OR CHINA MARKER ON COLOURED GROUND...

I like to draw with yellow pastel on coloured paper as it's easy to see and easy to cover as the painting progresses.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 04 Jan 17 18:15


my pencil is ma tool, always keep it sharp.
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 18:38
Eyebrows are quality in these faces...very expressive faces...done oot yer heid, zorro?
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 18:38
You're a natural, Zorro. Will you be doing a "Kate Bush"?
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 18:41
Just googled...Irvine Welsh...Foinavon...Embra career criminal...Cry
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 18:43
Like wee Leigh Griffiths...Cry
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 18:49
Laugh Crags will love it.
I only read his books so I could understand your occasional late night rants.Devil
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 18:50
High praise indeed! Cry
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 19:08
I thought you might have read his books, being a well-known Scottish author.
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 21:56
Plain...Racking or wracking my brain here...the only Scottish books I've read are Sunset Song by Lewis Grassic Gibbon (at aschool)...and some Robert Louis Stevenson...I avoid Rabbie Burns if I can...I've read JD FERGUSON'S treatise on painting...that's about it...
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 21:58


LEONARDO - DASCHUNDS.
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 22:01
I tried to post Gugliermo Cortese - cartoon of Joshua at the Battle of Gibeon, but it wasn't allowed by the mods...it's a good example of a gridded drawing.
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 22:14
What about George MacDonald Fraser? He wrote the Flashman books which are perhaps the most read of his work.
Even more interesting to me were his McAuslan novels and his superb memoirs "Quartered Safe Out Here".
They are a must read for anyone interested in historical novels. They are well written, exciting and he did his homework
regarding the underlying historical content. What are you waiting for, get reading.Cool
By:
Foinavon
When: 04 Jan 17 22:35
If squaring up was good enough for Leonard then it's good enough for me.
Tried to google the Cortese painting without success. As soon as you add Joshua or Jerico to a search then you are inundated with thousands of pages related to a well-known compilation of ancient writings. Do you have a link?
By:
Velasquez
When: 04 Jan 17 23:18
Always meant to read the Flashman books........sorrym my fault = spelled name wrong...GUGLIELMO CORTESE...

http://www.mattiajona.com/images/virtex%20folder/corteselarge.jpg
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