kay burley

dead ringer for the penquin

xmoneyx that figure may be explained by 750k in a population of 200mn plus (0.37%) ,compared to UK nearly 2.9mn (almost 4.9%) , it may be easier to monitor or discourage when the USA muslim population represents only 1/13th of ours in proportion ? Only rough figures and I accept any correction but it seems that Islam becomes  more radical when it achieves an order of magnitude in a country such as France or Bosnia .

750,000 muslims moved to USA since 9/11
terrorist attacks 0

ffs you must get your news from qvcuk or bbc
there's some really obvious ones like fort hood or the boston marathon

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/americanattacks.htm

this list doesn't include attacks like garland texas which was only averted by a lone armed policeman, or other attacks like the times square bomb

tbf the obama admin in a crude attempt to mask these will re-label them "workplace violence".

good point Boston bombers--got those stats telegragh

Well done to France for carrying out the massive anti-terror operation this morning in the notorious St Denis district. The details of this expose exactly what Europe is up against : The Enemy Within, their many sympathisers, and the new intake already on their way from Syria in the guise of Pretendy Refugees.

Quite honestly this sort of operation needs to be an everyday occurrence.

Already many articles across many media outlets, this one also has a lot of photographic evidence from the scene.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3323196/Shooting-breaks-Paris-suburb-anti-terrorist-operation.html

Facts must be getting worried they are going to raid his flat next... after all he did say he was going to put some of the refugees up.

not only did he not take the infidels with him he gets his hairy arse and tiny one shown everywhere
bad day at the office

dustybin -
the first pic on that mail site has a bloke with his arse and ball sack hanging out

showing the true face of IS

What I find disconcerting about listening to that speech Hollande just made is that its remarkably like watching a car crash in slow motion.

He spoke about emergency measures that will be implemented. Theres all sorts of stuff from extra troops to increasing assault bombing campaigns to refusal of allowing citizens certain vehicles etc.
He has also spoken recently of how they too must spy on their people as standard, just like our GCHQ.

The problem is these are methods of implementation, they dont put the genie back once they are deemed to have accomplished whatever they argue they are attempting.
Once they start spying they only ever increase spying, politicians spin an argument to find reasoning why they are entitled to want to know everything about everyone.

When the Normans invaded they wanted to know what everyone had, the Doomsday book was the result.
Now they want big data on everyone so they can predict the future and control people how they see fit, they never relax this process they simply turn up the algorithm against those unfavorable entities, say you all shape it via democracy after they sold it you on a pretense.

Teresa says they wont look at the exact webpage, just the address.
She also says that terrorists use facebook and other popular sites to communicate.
Well where does the terrorist flag up then?

If they simply see a person using facebook?

There will be sites that give away the intention probably like www.Imaplottingterrorist.com
But they are already arresting people downloading stuff about bomb making, as well as monitoring and arresting pedos, so how does ramping up the spying help?
That suggests to me they are either lying about the extent the will automatically track everyone, or that external information is used. External evidence is already used now, thats what they use to get a warrant with ffs.

All they will do is catch the same stupid ones, and a stupid terrorist isnt the danger is it?

No
Im suggesting what they are telling us to get the powers in the bill passed into an act dont make sense.
The new powers either track all and provide indepth analysis of what you do as standard (and therefore they are lying when saying just the generic information shows up)
Or that people get flagged up as a result of other information, which they are already using now, which then makes the news powers erroneous.

The clever ones will no doubt still attempt to get to the virgins by simply not communicating in a way that they know they are being tracked.
The daft ones wont get that far as they will get caught, but then they would have most likely anyway.

@arsesis ( /)

Vladamir Putin said "To Forgive The Terrorists Is Up To God, But To Send Them To Him Is Up To Me."

I do like that one xmony !

beer can pic



http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/476328/Russia-plane-bomb-ISIS

We live in some of the most liberal countries imaginable in the UK. Even those with criminal (not terrorist) intent would probably agree, that cuts to public services mean that, even those boys can rest easy when it comes to public sector eavesdroppers.

Who cares who's listening/ You can watch porn, gamble to your hearts content and pretty much say what you like in the UK.

A spook having access to our private, largely obsolete communications is a small price to pay for potentially saving our lives. Is there potential for misuse and abuse down the line? Possibly, but the political intent has to be there and we'd see a revolution before that happened.

We don't know we're born in the UK.

With big data nothing is 'obsolete'.
What worries me is that people are blindly nodding along without knowing what they are actually nodding to.
Increasing surveillance is just one of a myriad of personal freedoms that have been regressed and I don't believe any of them have anything to do with terrorism (other than it being used as an agenda)

We do have closed courts you know, and they occur when evidence from the prosecution involves anything derived from spooks.....well that's about to drastically increase.

the car kills 100,000 x more

motorbikes are one of the most beautiful inventions.