there is a big shortage in catholic priests at the moment. they are having to fly in priests from africa to help say mass. so i dont think many people are having saying no. eventually there will probably be only one universal religion. the world is already coming together at a very fast rate

thats cool mem. but still im surprised that anyone would create a thread asking a question thats been discussed a million times over in better forums. a simple google search. what exactly did you expect to discover on here when every possible theory has been debated elsewhere. this is a gambling forum afterall!

mememe, I don't quite get where your at.

Do you want to find God? Is that it?

'god' the brand has made a lot of people a lot of money on false promises imo

perhaps, Foi. it looks like we are all open armed for the migrants. i hope they are indeed refugees and not part of a masterplan by the terrorists to infiltrate. interesting times ahead i hope everyone that passes through is monitored closely.

no problem mem. it was an impossible question to answer though. we would all be told nothing if they discovered something anyways. there is a lot of unknown. enjoyed reading the hologram theory recently. cant get my brain around a lot of it though

no god 1.01...........there being a god 1000\1

I can understand people in the dark ages believing this crap but nowadays it's just laughable.
The bible is man made and yet it is readily accepted by some as the word of god.
A god of love we are told. Try telling that to the millions who are born into famine every year only to die a slow and painful death.

The question of is there a God will take on a whole new dimension when artificial intelligence exceeds human. 

The implications for the Human Race are enormous.

I read a book years ago called Synthetic Worlds.
It was about how up until then computer environments had being trying to recreate the real world as accurately as possible.
It said that there was to be a new horizon of immersion where the environment didnt resemble the real world at all, but would encapsulate the waking hours of humans.
The creators of these worlds would in effect be the gods in their own right, deciding how things worked and the rules within them.

These came true. Social media, websites and massive multiplayer online games being the new immersed worlds.
Just like this forum, governed by others who decide upon the rules, the betting website with its own revenue streams and clientele who have no say over them.
These are the new world gods.

God is a figment of the imagination,he really exists for people who believe that there is a god,for those who do not believe he does not exist.
just like dark energy,people who believe in it will tell you it exists.
both can not be seen,there is no proof of eithers existance,both can not be touched,in fact we don't even know where to look for both.
yet one is easier to believe than the other.Simply put its a bit of a mind game.

I have little doubt. The people who do not believe in a God. Are the same people who perhaps are afraid of dying.

Believing or not believing has no correlation with whether God exists or not.
Belief is ambiguous the question of existence is definitive.

Sure ppl may act differently depending on what they are encouraged to think.
But by that definition you'd believe the government when they say 'we are all in it together' but that's blatantly a manipulation.

Batholemew encouraged his fellows to win an unwinable fight during the crusades based on finding a bit of scrap metal he'd dug up convincing them it was the holy lance.....they won, then tested the lance by walking in fires....it turned out to be a horrible death.
Churchill rallied the nation with oration when in ww2 it was backs to the wall, he was just a drunk and all those pots and pans and railings cut down went into landfill, but the effect was about unity and struggle.
It's the power of the mind...a trick if you like.

I cant speak for atheists being agnostic, but I imagine its a case of not being able to de-learn things.
You could live a simple life in ignorance, but if your logical brain has reason what are you supposed to do in the absence of proof?
Lie to yourself?

Whether you are an atheist or a believer it makes not one jot of difference when you're dead.
If you want to believe the horse sh1t fed to us by religion it puts you under a whole lot of additional obligations and gives you the worry that if you don't follow their rules you will end up in t'other place.
Life's a lot better without the sword of Damocles, believe me. The religionists can go feck themselves.

Yes, I was brainwashed from birth like the vast majority of children. I went to Sunday school as a young child and remember sticking brightly coloured stamps depicting biblical scenes onto an attendance card. I used to think how strange that these people dressed in red robes should have golden halos like dinner plates behind their heads. In my early teens I went to Sunday services at a Baptist church because they had a great youth club with table tennis tables but already I was having doubts, particularly over discrepancies in the Christmas story (will give an example separately so as not to clutter this). You see, I read most of the bible at that time not just the bits they want you to believe.
Later I went to university away from home influence and met like minded people which was a great relief to know I wasn't alone in not believing what they had told me and was able to exchange ideas. So nothing actually changed me, it was a gradual process brought about by thinking things through and not being gullible.

Can't argue with your point regarding religion as I am not religious.

However, I'm not so sure on the 'There is no God/Creator'.

I'm afraid of never seeing loved ones again and sheer darkness for eternity although obviously, if it's like to going back before I was born, I wont remember any of the information in my life anyway.

If it is just sheer nothing after I die, that isn't good enough for me. I'm born for nothing and then die for nothing. Essentially your life isn't much better than being in a single cell prison. I WANT MORE THAN THAT.

I'm 25 btw and although much younger, nothing guarantees me or anyone else younger than you from dying earlier.

gives them a bit of insurance though does it not? if they dont have a religion and they are wrong then they are fcked for not believing etc. so really they have nothing to lose worst case scenario.