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Jeremy Corbyn currently 24/1 to be the Labour lader
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Funnily enough, I wrote that post and sent it just seconds after your second post popped up. So, I didn't even have time to read your 'trap'.. (Think you forgot to add 'clap' before it though.)
And I was born into a middle-middle family. |
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right then well i can see why you might be a tory, its the working class tories that should be despised
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the sheep brainwashed by murdoch filth
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And what's wrong with working tories supporting a party that believes in aspiration. All your bunch believe in is dragging everyone else down.
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no my friend thats where the garbage begins aspiration my arse
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I'm afraid you're sorely deluded. Labour will *never* do anything for you. They think they will, but they won't..
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if you think the tories suport working class people then there is no hope
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the rothschilds and jp morgans of this world will be dancing listening to you
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the superstructure has infected you im afraid
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I don't know anything about this Corbyn bloke but the last thing the Labour party should be doing is trying become electable. The first thing should be trying to establish some credibility to a level above zero and working out what they stand for (the clue is in the name of the party)
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They'll support those who want to work, and they'll do what they can to tear down the horrible mess the welfare state has become.
They won't do it as well as a real Tory - I'm more a fan of John Redwood than DC - but I'll take Cameron over your shower. It'll be a long time before we've purged the system of Gordon Brown's many disasters, though. Anyway, I can tell you're one of those left-wingers who I'm going to find utterly tedious. (Some of you have interesting ideas, but *you* seem to have nothing more than idiotic slogans. I bet you haven't even read a book on JP Morgan or the Rothschilds.) So I think I'll bid you farewell. This sort of tripe usually goes down better on the Politics Forum, by the way.. |
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That was aimed at Anxious, obviously...
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john redwood eh vulcan was he not one of the bastards
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the swivel eyed loons
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.........Where they really lost it, though, was with the C2s and the D/Es. 40% of the D/Es voted Labour in 2005. That fell to just 30% in 2010, and slipped further to 27% in 2015. That's an absolutely massive drop over 10 years. And most of those were poor working class voters who felt their jobs had been 'stolen' by immigrants. Many of them are anti-EU too. Unsurprisingly, UKIP have picked up quite a few of these voters. ......'
Because unfortunately, despite being the very people who were being/are being screwed by the Tories, they believed the 'newspeak' bing spewed out by right wing media ( led by Murdoch). They were conned into 'looking down,' and blaming those less fortunate in society for their ills, rather than ' looking up ' and seeing the real culprits in the rich tax dodging,bonus grabbing capitalist parasites. Creating a divisive society where the gap between the ' haves ' and ' have nots ' grows wider and wider. |
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Why has the politics forum nutjob come over to chitchat?
Fed up with people asking him questions he can't answer over there? |
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On the BBC this morning
Margaret Beckett: I was a moron to nominate Corbyn. At no point was I going to vote for him myself. |
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Reading anxious's posts will ensure you are never tempted to vote for Labour.
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Because unfortunately, despite being the very people who were being/are being screwed by the Tories, they believed the 'newspeak' bing spewed out by right wing media ( led by Murdoch). They were conned into 'looking down,' and blaming those less fortunate in society for their ills, rather than ' looking up ' and seeing the real culprits in the rich tax dodging,bonus grabbing capitalist parasites. Creating a divisive society where the gap between the ' haves ' and ' have nots ' grows wider and wider.
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"The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863. |
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"The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863. |
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"... our whole monetary system is dishonest, as it is debt-based... We did not vote for it. It grew upon us gradually but markedly since 1971 when the commodity-based system was abandoned."
The Earl of Caithness, in a speech to the House of Lords, 1997. |
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I think I'm beginning to understand while you're a Tottenham fan..
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egner I sincerely hope you are posting from a padded cell cos I'd hate to think someone like you is walking the streets.
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Well there're at least two others like him on this thread Akabula. Scary world we live in!!
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..why...whats the problem.
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too many.....
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HonkyJoe 23 Jul 15 19:54
Because unfortunately, despite being the very people who were being/are being screwed by the Tories, they believed the 'newspeak' bing spewed out by right wing media ( led by Murdoch). They were conned into 'looking down,' and blaming those less fortunate in society for their ills, rather than ' looking up ' and seeing the real culprits in the rich tax dodging,bonus grabbing capitalist parasites. Creating a divisive society where the gap between the ' haves ' and ' have nots ' grows wider and wider. Oh dear.... You can do better than that ! Give me some evidence that shows what I've said is not true, and isn't happening to our society.. |
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........they are stumped facts....
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Maybe if some of the have nots got off their fat ar5e5 they might join the haves.
Always everybody elses fault. |
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the word "luvvie" is a shocking omission
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Facts, I've spent ages debating these matters with foam-mouthed fools like you. No side ever wins. We just happen to have totally contrasting views.
I strongly believe that there'll always be the poor and the rich - the difference is that more right-wing governments will create greater mobility, which'll mean that those who want to help themselves have a chance of working their way up the ladder. The left, on the other hand, want to pull the ladder away altogether. They think they're hurting the rich by doing that, but the rich have so much money that they can insulate themselves against such tactics. It's the middle and the bottom who get left with nowhere to go. And with nobody challenging the top, you have stagnation and a rising gap between rich and poor. Social mobility is the answer to that, and the Left's perpetual 'dragging everybody else down' approach won't get social mobility moving. But I doubt I'll be able to convince you of my argument. I see you as a nutjob, and I assume you'll have a similar opinion of me. So what would be the point in having a reasoned debate about it? I've done this many times before with crazed anti-rich lefties, and we'll spend hours arguing about it, with neither of us the least bit convinced by anything the other has said. Frankly, I've got better things to do with the rest of tonight. So if it's all the same with you, I think I'll try not to rise to your bait. Night! |
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HJ
You can't debate with Facts. If you get the upper hand, which isn't hard, he will tell you that he has blocked you and can't read your answers, so it's not worth posting. Strangely, as soon as you post something that he can PROVE is wrong, he will actually 'unblock' you. But how did he know what you posted so that he couild 'unblock' you, because he can't see it.  I caught MeadowX1 out the same way on politics. They are both luvvies, and both mad. |
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I gathered as much. I've encountered his kind before. If there's one thing I've discovered, it's that on the internet there are some arguments it's just not worth trying to win!
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Andy Burnham - 40/1 in to 6/5
Yvette Cooper - 17/1 into 9/4 Jeremy Corbyn - 979/1 into 4/1 Harriet Harman - 999/1 into 10/1 No tip for laying David Milliband from Pandora, who went from evens to 550 Everybody else is 1000 ==================================================================== Chukka Umuna was one of Pandora’s 4 tips to back - evens to 420 pandora1963 15 Nov 12 15:32 Chuku Ummunna to be next Labour leader. You may have a long wait guys and girls, but that is a cast iron cert! More shrewdness from the bet welcher, July 2013 labour majority 2015 6/4 you won't get many better 6/4 shots that are out and out certs,the snag is you have to wait 2 years. There are three reasons why the tories will never get a majority for at least another 20 years. 1) They are finished as a force north of London 2) They couldn't get a majority in 2010 when Laboour were despised,now the country has had a taste of tory politics all the polling suggests they are sick of it. They sure as hell won't get a majority in 2015. 3) The right wing media attacks on Ed Miliband have failed miserably and will continue to fail,no matter how low the sun newspaper sinks the day before the 2015 election. Face it people,this county is no longer a conservative country,they haven't won an election since 1992,nobody except a few diehards believe in toryism anymore. pandora1963 06 May 15 00:09 Disagree gigilo, i think the odds-on Labour most seats will come in pandora1963 06 May 15 00:14 EO, cameron needs the magic number of 323. There is no way he will make up those numbers even with lib dems and DUP. Ed will with you know who. pandora1963 06 May 15 00:21 the absolute max i can see the tories getting is 290, even with that(which will mean them taking lib dem seats) they wont be able to get over the line pandora1963 06 May 15 21:56 still got a feeling in the back of my mind that Scotland won't be absolute carnage for Labour that the media are making it out to be Pandora1963 08 May 2015 14:02 Get your money on Dan Jarvis next Labour leader. ^^^^ 2 days later, he quit the race. pandora1963 16 Apr 15 14:58 I will do you a favour just this one time, Labour to win Battersea and Labour to win Simon Hughes setin Bermondsey. Both odds against but both will go Labour. Double them up and thank me on the 8th May. Double fail |
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Wow. That's quite a file you're keeping on Pandora. Your quarry must be extremely flattered...
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Having read all that, Pand does appear a bit of a fruitloop though.. Plenty of people would have agreed on a number of those 'tips', but I guess you should always stay away from the herd...
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HonkyJoe
Foamed mouth fool Nut job Crazed anti-rich lefty That's your idea of a reasoned argument/debate is it ? So even though I didn't resort to such derogatory and personal remarks, you felt the need to. Well done, you obviously win then. |
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No. That's not my idea of reasoned debate. But I specifically said I *wouldn't* engage in reasoned debate with you, because I could see it being a total waste of our time.
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So you just resorted to abuse instead.
Congratulations. |