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Three muslim girls heading to Syria. Why...
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It isn't just daesh we should be opposing - they are just the military wing. They are cheered on by a substantial number around the world including this country. But daesh's aims will be achieved here by the slow demographic change. They don't need to start a violent jihadi war in the uk.
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Really surprised how far up the news agenda this is as 90% plus of the country could not give a flying fcuk about the 3 Pakistanis
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Fool proof....these vile people are the enemy within....they are a lethal danger to us Brits.
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the headmaster says the police found no radicalisation in the school
but then the headmaster wants to keep his job and his head ha ha!!!! |
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I know it is such a silly thing to say but aren't all these daesh people muslim???
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watching sky - the defence of islam propaganda machine in full swing
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mobo - 'slow demographic change'.
Aint that the truth.. We need to wake up pretty damn quick.. |
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I'd say you could barely find a more appropriate story that signposts the destruction of Britain, much of it self-inflicted by an insane refusal to acknowledge the seriousness of these developments.
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About time we stopped child benefit after 3 children, just one way to discourage this change in population ethnicity.
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Isis or isil or is whatever they are, do not exist...never have, never will.
Another American bogeyman following on from the tried tested and proven method of the indigenous Indian, the black man, aliens and ufos, communists and al Qaeda. Ps where are al Qaeda these days? |
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Oh dear!! Daesh certainly exist. Better go and ask all those murdered muslims, christians, kurds etc etc
Or maybe it is western propaganda (cough cough) |
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'Moderate' mussy's are more dangerous than ISIL and Boko Haram put together..
spot on  |
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ISIL and the Islamic State headed by the Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi most certainly exist
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Your fault. The police’s fault. Social media’s fault. Religion’s fault. Nobody’s fault. Take your pick. Seems there’s no shortage of blame to go around – or not – in the case of the three British schoolgirls believed to have fled the country to join ISIS fighters in the Middle East.
It all depends on who is talking. This is what we do know. Police believe that Shamima Begum, 15, Kadiza Sultana, 16, and Amira Abase, 15, are already in Syria after they flew from Gatwick to Istanbul in Turkey last Tuesday. They had attended an East London school, Bethnal Green Academy, the same institution another pupil disappeared from in December and is now thought to have joined ISIS. The head teacher of the school has since said police found no indication the missing students were radicalised there. Mark Keary said that the school community was “shocked and saddened” by the departure of the trio. He said police spoke to the girls after the first student disappeared and indicated at the time that there was no evidence that they were at risk of being radicalised or absconding. He also made the point that access social media at the school is “strictly regulated.” So no blame there. The girls’ parents are sure they are blameless and nothing happened at home that might have caused the girls to leave. According to the Associated Press, the relatives of the missing girls broke down in tears as they spoke of their shock and fear in televised interviews. “We miss you. We cannot stop crying,” said Abase Hussen, Amira’s father, holding a stuffed toy bear Amira gave to her mother on Mother’s Day. “Please think twice. Don’t go to Syria.” All the families agreed there were no signs that the girls were interested in extremism or of what they were planning. So no blame there, either. Former minister and Conservative peer Baroness Warsi agrees. She thinks that school and family should be ruled out. Instead, she told Sky News’s Murnaghan programme on Sunday morning that the Government was fighting a “losing battle” against online radicalisation. “Sometimes we’ve been wanting to find an easy answer and said ‘Mosques should do more, Madrassas should do more’,” she explained. “It’s becoming increasingly apparent that actually people aren’t becoming radicalised in their places of worship but actually are being radicalised in their bedrooms by being on the internet.” So there IS a clue after all when it comes to apportioning blame and guilt; not schools or places of worship but radical bedrooms and the internet, one being used and the other accessed under the parental roof. But wait. There’s more. It seems British authorities might also have to shoulder the blame. Seems they are not doing enough to alert parents when their children are at risk of being radicalised through the internet, a lawyer for the family of one young woman who joined Islamic State has said. Aamer Anwar told Sky News security authorities are not passing on intelligence which could allow families to prevent their children from travelling to Syria or Iraq. These failings, he said, meant the UK is “exporting terror” abroad. He went further in the Herald newspaper in Scotland accusing the same UK authorities of “monumental incompetence” over their handling of children and young people at risk of online radicalisation. He also questioned why the three girls were not stopped by airport security before boarding the Turkish Airlines flight at Gatwick. “Here we have two 15-year-old girls and a 16-year-old, dressed conservatively and wearing the Hijab, travelling to Turkey alone without their parents”, he said. “Surely this should have raised alarm bells?” He added: “I’m calling for an inquiry into this. The families of Aqsa and these three girls have a right to know exactly what the security services knew and what lessons can be learned for the future to stop young people going off to join Isis.” So there you have it. British authorities should be doing more. Not schools, or parents, or religious leaders. British authorities, the same ones who seem to be forever accused of too much intrusion into innocent lives and showing an undue focus on followers of a certain faith we know, because they tell us often, have nothing to do with radical elements who kill in the name of their religion. It’s really the fault of British authorities and we, as taxpayers, must also stand accused, because we pay their wages. Glad we cleared that up. |
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A good summary.
No doubt if these girls ever return they'll also say that they are blameless because they should have been stopped from travelling. |
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There was also a religious leader on Tv the other day saying that many immams are part time and so do not have the time to combat extremist thoughts. the answer according to him is for the community, that is the taxpayer, to give more money to mosques.
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One of the families lawyers is blaming the uk authorities for this Aamer Anwar, a lawyer for the Mahmood family, expressed “incredulity” that British police and security services failed to notice Shamima had contacted the known extremist. I would have thought the parents should be the ones he was pointing the finger at. Serial criticiser tbf. Born 1967 (age 47–48) Nationality British Political party Scottish National Party Alma mater University of Glasgow University of Strathclyde University of Liverpool Occupation Lawyer Aamer Anwar (born 1967) is a prominent Scottish lawyer of Pakistani background who is noted for his left-wing political views and several associated controversies. He was an active participant in the Stop the War Coalition, campaigned against the 31st G8 summit at Gleneagles and against the closure of the Dungavel Detention Centre for failed asylum seekers. |
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Close down those universities!
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It looks like they crossed into Syria before the alert was put out (conveniently) Last Thursday probably. No doubt married now and well on the way to sprogland. But keep putting out 'Please come home' banners by all means..
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Below is a blog from The Spectator (comments underneath) The girl in the pic looks about 24.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/02/should-we-actually-be-worried-about-the-syria-bound-schoolgirls/#disqus_thread |
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BBC are catching up..
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Sky now catching up.
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What's ever happened to boko haram ? They have a hit in the 60 s with whiter shade of pale now all this s h I t
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they want isis kok,prob get more thou
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it's very regrettable but I'm sure lessons can be learned
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they've gone out to 'further their studies'.
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Brilliant, glad to hear they arrived safely...........
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has anyone condemned these girls who support the killer daesh cult
most seem to view them as victims (the media etc that is) |
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i wonder if "our" police will follow them into syria.
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Think of all those daesh boys with their tongues hanging out waiting for them!!!
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A dangerous place for plod to be walking around. Now can you imagine if they were taken hostage?
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They were smuggled across the border. So they must have arranged to meet someone.
All very odd. Agreed that the blame seems directed in the wrong places. A question you won't hear asked by the media: 'What the hell is wrong with Islam that makes 15 year old girls want to be sex slaves?' |
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Seems that GCSE's weren't enough to keep them happy.
Now they'll be doing O & A levels. |
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I reckon if they could have boyfriend here in UK without 100% chance of being honourable killed they would stay here and enjoy teenage life. The things is is not allowed, and they know that, do that, and family will see it is in their interest to protect honour of the family and kill the bastard.
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It's a fair point bizman. You have to ask what is so deficient in their London lives that they feel compelled to take such a radical step.
These young girls probably seek adventure and freedom, as opposed to the accepted dialogue of fulfilling a religious obligation, as a reason to travel. What they will find could be somewhat different, and it would be interesting to see whether the liberties they are used to in a western democracy, become somewhat enlarged over the passage of time. |
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It won't be the only passage getting enlarged for these young ladies..
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Yet another mug writing for the guardian
.http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/24/syria-bound-schoolgirls-arent-jihadi-devil-women-theyre-vulnerable-children#comments |