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By:
cardifffc
When: 21 Feb 15 10:25
good riddance to them i say........but dont under any circumstance let them back in the country
By:
Dav_vin03
When: 21 Feb 15 10:31
they went to have sex as jihadi brides.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 21 Feb 15 10:39
Their too old for potential husbands, they should have left 10 years ago.
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 21 Feb 15 10:57
on the news they mentioned jihad matchmaker as one of the internet sites these girls would've been drawn to.
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https://twitter.com/jihadmatchmaker

It's so surreal it's not easy to see whether it's real or a p1ss take.
It hasn't many followers and inevitably a large number of them ARE p1ss takers.
eg

Cutting off heads and persecuting religious minorities doesn’t leave much time for a social life. Thankfully there’s a new matchmaking service for today’s jihadi on the go. My name is Achmed and I enjoy killing infidels, rioting, explosions, and long walks on the beach…
By:
Foinavon
When: 21 Feb 15 11:11
They'll be back before Christmas to have their babies on the NHS.
By:
cardifffc
When: 21 Feb 15 11:27
youve got to wonder what their parents say about isis??..........be surprised if the views of their parents was a negative one
By:
akabula
When: 21 Feb 15 11:49
Good riddance to these three. All we can hope for is that they encourage others to follow.
The government should offer them assisted passages with free buses to get them to the airport.
Our country, our laws and our values.
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 21 Feb 15 11:50
18-30 CLUB,THEY SAID THEVE HAD ENOUGH OF MAGALUFF
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 21 Feb 15 11:53
they were all speccies - is that significant?

Kadiza Sultana is 5ft 6in and slim build. She was wearing black-rimmed glasses, a long black jacket with a hood, a grey striped scarf, a grey jumper and dark red trousers and was carrying a black holdall. She speaks English with a London accent and Bengali

Shamima Begum is 5ft 7in. She was wearing black, thick-rimmed glasses, a black hijab, a light brown and black leopard-print scarf, a dark red jumper, black trousers and a jacket, and was carrying a dark blue holdall with white straps. She speaks English with a London accent and Bengali

The 15-year-old unnamed girl is 5ft 6in and slim build. She was wearing black, thick-rimmed glasses, a black headscarf, a long dark green jacket with a fur-lined hood, a light yellow long-sleeved top, black trousers and white trainers, and was carrying a black Nike holdall. She speaks English and Amharic
By:
Ovalman.
When: 21 Feb 15 11:59

18-30 CLUB,THEY SAID THEVE HAD ENOUGH OF MAGALUFF


LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
alun2005
When: 21 Feb 15 12:08
Have the parents, friends, family appeared yet in front of a Press Conference, to plead with the girls to come home? 

Have the parents of ANY travelling Jihadists done that yet?
By:
akabula
When: 21 Feb 15 12:19
Nice one Do Wah. Laugh
By:
guinness2dear
When: 21 Feb 15 12:20
Too busy at the cash & carry..
By:
Ramruma
When: 21 Feb 15 12:26
How would pleading at a press conference help? Whether the girls are in Turkey, Syria or some hell-hole run by the IS, it's not very likely they'll be watching News at Ten.
By:
Ramruma
When: 21 Feb 15 12:33
Why is one of the girls unnamed? She is 15 but the two who were named are 15 and 16, so age cannot be the reason.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 21 Feb 15 12:37
Her parents 'requested' anonymity.

Probably got a few more packing their bags..
By:
cardifffc
When: 21 Feb 15 12:41
LaughLaugh
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 21 Feb 15 13:33
one of them might end up marrying northernlad. He must be out there by now.

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By:
guinness2dear
When: 21 Feb 15 13:35
That looks like Olaf from the The Kop..
By:
mememe
When: 21 Feb 15 17:19
Staight A students apparently (WTF does that mean ... every time there's an items about a teenager, they're always reported as being a straight A student and very popular, anyway that's beside the point.

The point is that they're obviously destined to become doctors (with them being straight A students) so they've gone off to Syria to learn about amputations and FGM.  A skill we'll be needing in 20 years time when it will become the law in this country.

FFS, when, oh when, are we going to wake up?
By:
Ramruma
When: 21 Feb 15 18:30
Straight A students? Next we'll be told they are promising footballers.
By:
alun2005
When: 21 Feb 15 18:41
The BBC News reported that two of the families have issued appeals to the runaways (through the media) to come home.

The Evening Standard has a report on one of those appeals below.

The wording, to say the least, is truly staggering. I'd say it beggars belief.

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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/east-london-mosque-appeals-to-worshippers-to-help-secure-return-of-three-schoolgirls-feared-to-have-joined-islamic-state-10061234.html


Don't go looking for any condemnation of the Islamic State, or anyone who goes to fight for them. You won't find it there. Far from it.
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 21 Feb 15 19:24
Gone to Marmaris for a booze-up, part of growing up. No issue here.
By:
treetop
When: 21 Feb 15 19:31
I cant remember all those news items asking for support to be given to those white children in care homes being raped and abused in Rotherham,Rochdale,Oxford,Newcastle,Bristol,etc when the so called investigative news programmes  were well aware of the issues but never broadcast concern ?
By:
mange
When: 21 Feb 15 19:42
do we av to send any money ?

or are the government dealing wiv it wiv our money ?
By:
Injera
When: 21 Feb 15 19:48
Ibrahima Sonko goes to the heart of this..

The media would have us believe there's a clear definition between Moderate Muslims and Radicalised Muslims.

Until it's said loud and clear that there is no tangible difference, we won't progress.

The problem is not 'radicalised' Muslims, it's Islam..
By:
mobo
When: 21 Feb 15 19:50
says it all for me - syria is dangerous !!!  and you can help from the uk  -  that shows we have a real problem with the muslim community here
By:
mobo
When: 21 Feb 15 19:51
anyone remember the parent who said my son was a martyr !!??
By:
mange
When: 21 Feb 15 19:56
thought he said "he will be"
By:
sixtwosix
When: 21 Feb 15 20:46
This country has changed more in 30 years than the last 300  ..... can't for the life of me imagine  what it will be like in another 30.
So much for border security as three 15 year old girls fly abroad , presumably without parental authority .......couldn't possibly be culturally sensitive to refuse minors flying alone without the  correct paperwork could it ?
By:
kincsem
When: 21 Feb 15 21:38
They see it on the telly and they want to be famous, a bit like Spice Girls.  Their friends went to Australia on their gap year and they want to go away too.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 21 Feb 15 22:25
It's just like Sheik Mo adding to his brood mares..
By:
bizman
When: 22 Feb 15 02:24
Interesting article about Islam, moderate Muslims and extremists Muslim from former Muslim Ali Sina who knows the religion inside out.

Arguably, there are three kinds of Muslim. No Muslim exists out of these three categories.The Good, The Bad and the Ugly

The good Muslim.
Good meaning true believers—those who follow the teachings of Mohammed the Quran and the Sunnah to the letter, who try to emulate him in every way and are strict and pious Muslims. Since the teachings and examples of Muhammad are full of violence and terror the more one follows and emulates him the more radical one becomes. Muhammad raided and butchered people simply because they were not his followers. Good Muslims do the same. All the bombings and terrorism by Muslims are replicas of Mohammed's raids, or ghazwa, as he called them. Taking women as sex slaves, which the Islamic State and Boko Haram practice was also carried out by Muhammad and he sanctioned it in the Koran (33:50; 23: 1-6; 70:30; 4:24; 66:1-2). He ordered the assassination of his critics, stoning the adulterers, chopping off the hands of thieves and killing the Apostates. So, what we call terrorists are actually good Muslims.

The Bad Muslim.
These are Muslims who don’t practice their religion and are often ignorant of it. They may pray or chant the Koran, but they have no clue of its contents. They read it for thawab (reward) without understanding it. These Muslims are ordinary people we all know. Like everybody else, some are good and some are not so good. Some are friendly, but they see themselves as superior, by virtue of their faith, and of “higher morals.”

Morality in Islam is primarily about genitals and their use. For example, while having sex out of marriage is considered immoral, stoning people caught in such act is not immoral. While looking at bare arms and legs of Muslim women is considered immoral, raping non-Muslim women is not immoral. Homosexuality is immoral, but pedophilia is not.

These Muslims migrate to the west to better their lives, but they segregate themselves, form isolated communities and warn their children to not learn the ways of unbelievers or take them as friends unless they intent to convert them to Islam. They give huge amounts of money to charity. But Islamic charity has nothing to do with charity. All that money goes to build mosques, print Islamic materials and promote Islam. If any of that is spent for the needy, it is to enlist them for jihad or support the families of the suicide bombers. The bad Muslims are the lifeline of Islam and the breeding ground for good Muslims. All Muslim terrorists, unless they are converts, are born in and emerge from this group. Without the moral and financial support of the bad Muslims Islam will cease to exist.

Ugly Muslims.
As we learned the good Muslims are not good at all, and the bad ones are not really bad people, the ugly Muslims actually look beautiful. Islam is a world down the rabbit hole. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it is not. The ugly Muslims are clean-shaven, handsome or attractive, eloquent, articulate, and highly intelligent, just the kind of people you want to hang around with. They are journalists, professors, regular guests and contributors to mainstream media. They know what to say to gain your approval and your applause. They are charming. Their words are reassuring and their faces are familiar. You like them and trust them. So why do I call them ugly? Because they lie! Their job is to deceive you and to make you believe that the “real Islam” poses no threat to you. These wolves in sheep clothing are the most dangerous group. Deception is deadlier than terror. Do you fear more a ferocious animal that you can see or a deadly virus that you can’t? The enemy within is a lot more dangerous.

Unlike bad Muslims the ugly ones are not ignorant of their religion. They know of Muhammad’s raids, rapes, assassinations, genocides, tortures and beheadings, but they deny them, twist the facts and defend him. They accuse the good Muslims of having hijacked their religion of peace when they know they lie. They claim to be reformers when they know that Islam cannot be reformed. Islam is what it is. To reform Islam one has to change the Quran. Over 70% of it must be scrapped, and the other 30% is just sheer nonsense.

Reformers/Moderate

Reformer don’t want to change the Quran. They just want Muslims to practice it less. In theory it works. Even the deadliest poison in small doses is not lethal. But how can they convince all Muslims to not take their holy book seriously? This project is doomed from the start. This is either naiveté and wishful thinking, or a ruse to deceive the non-Muslims, to give them false hope so they can buy more time for Islam to take over the world, which is the goal of every Muslim, the good, the bad and the ugly.
The terrorist are born, raised and protected by the “moderates.” They are indistinguishable from each other. It is delusional to think that the non-terrorist Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism. Where do the terrorists come from if not from the so-called moderate Muslims?

All Muslims support the ideology that wants to kill us. There are also good people (bad Muslims) among them, like al Sisi, who want to change this. They can’t, because the ideology against which they speak is Islam itself. They will likely be assassinated before they succeed. The belief that Islam can be reformed from within is wishful thinking. Other religions allow change and adapt with times. Islam is like a fossil. What is written in the Quran cannot be changed and the problem with Islam is the Quran.

Islam cannot be reformed, but it can be eradicated. It cannot be molded, but it can be smashed and pulverized. This cannot be done from within. Growth happens from within. But if you want to demolish a building you have to get out of it. You can’t cut a branch while sitting on it.

Three solution to the problem

Tell the truth
First, the good way to stop Islam is to spread the truth about it. Like darkness that cannot stand the light, lies cannot stand the truth. If we tell the truth about Muhammad and reveal his crimes, Islam will fall in no time. We can actually destroy Islam in less than two decades. All we need to do is tell the truth. Yes, truth will set us free. It really does! I myself have left Islam and have helped thousands to leave it with nothing but truth.

Read in full here http://alisina.org/?p=5045
By:
guinness2dear
When: 22 Feb 15 02:58
What a brilliant piece. I could have written that myself. It might have taken my five years and 3 fingers but I would have got there in the end.

Moderate mussy's eh....
By:
Injera
When: 22 Feb 15 08:44
Very good read.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 22 Feb 15 10:34
Polish people have moved here in the hundreds of thousands but the vast majority work hard, learn the language and try and integrate into society. I've no problems with immigration, people only want to better themselves and those Poles that do stay become great participants of our society.

People from Islamic countries on the other hand tend keep themselves to themselves. They move into the same areas, then they start imposing their values on our society. They start building Mosques and then they start demanding changes to our laws to suit them.

The problems I see with Islam is it's still stuck in the dark ages. Christianity was just as bad 1300 years ago (remember the Crusades) but we've separated religion from state which is very important. Islam is indoctrined from a very young age and because state and religion are the same, punishments are very harsh for blasphemy laws. Not a wonder no-one wants to break them as punishment is so ridiculous for trivial things.

I think education is the best way to combat Islam. That's why the Taliban are so against it. Educate the masses and let people make up their own minds. Eventually religion and state will separate and ridiculous laws can be changed.

Tolerance of other peoples views makes us gullible but also better than Islam. Education to change peoples views is the only way we can win this war as someone who has a god on their side for their people is a very dangerous and rabid animal.

Sad part is, it won't be done in our lifetimes.
By:
polybot
When: 22 Feb 15 10:58
reasonably coherent apart from this:

Christianity was just as bad 1300 years ago (remember the Crusades) but we've separated religion from state which is very important.

6/10 must try harder.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 22 Feb 15 11:03
polybot

Why don't you try and write something worth reading instead of criticising other people's posts?
By:
Ovalman.
When: 22 Feb 15 11:05
Islam was formed 1300 years ago, Crusades were 900 years ago but my point is more about both religions are about converting and their version of a god is superior. Christianity could have been just as bad as Islam if we didn't separate state from religion.

Christianity was just as bad 1300 years ago and Priests were very powerful. I listen to the British History Podcast and we are in this era. Anyone with a god on their side is very dangerous indeed.
By:
irishone
When: 22 Feb 15 11:06
wishy washy liberalism in the u k has run its course
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