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it's all coming out now you tory scum.
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there was a post some time ago about our own gov't being involved in a form of ethnic cleansing, it would now appear that this is happening in the year, 2014, in a so-called civilised country.I would urge people to take a look at the following info taken formt he people v's the gov't.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-People-Vs-The-Government-DWP-and-Atos/430588573684275?fref=nf |
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We're all in it together
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Cheaper to go to jail.
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How many more are there we don`t know about Tony?
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There'll be a bloody lot more to follow if we have a cold winter!
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cameron and his cronies will get it shoved right up them next may, especially after the latest scandal implicating paedos at the heart of a previous tory government
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"cameron and his cronies will get it shoved right up them next may, especially after the latest scandal implicating paedos at the heart of a previous tory government"
Couldnt really use that argument to vote labour given how current senior labour figures have supported paedophiles in the past. |
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Considering this is a list of sick and disabled people, surely there is a higher than normal risk of death and suicide?
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Couldnt really use that argument to vote labour given how current senior labour figures have supported paedophiles in the past.
Agreed, I'll be either abstaining or voting green. |
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Bear in mind that a large %age of appeals are upheld too, otherwise it would be even worse!
I would hope that this list finds the in-tray and email inbox of every Tory MP. Not that it would make them understand, the basatds. They never change. Never have. |
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IDS has a copy on the wall in his bog (well one of the bogs)
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This thread is simply political posturing and point scoring on behalf of the Labour party who were the ones who actually brought in ESA and indeed ATOS to run the system. That's right Labour. The simple fact is that successive goverments from Tories in the 90's to Labour in the early part of this century found it politically expedient to wave anybody and everybody through who claimed not to be able to work. Then they correctly but belatedly changed the rules and from that point in 2008 genuine cases faced an uphill battle because they were mixed up with the players.
A plague on both their houses but any mug stupid enough to play politics with this issue deserves to be smashed............and brother................tonight I'm in the smashing business. Tony Broke? You will be if we get any more of your biased lip sonny. |
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-People-Vs-The-Government-DWP-and-Atos/430588573684275?fref=ts
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I dont support labour,eeternal opt son.
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crisp, then 'hadnt they better do it (die) and decrease the surplus population?' Id expect better from you.
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Iain dunc.smith von goebbels ought to be tried, surely.
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Nobody really knows why lots of these people committed suicide and anyway whats the solution to this.
Are we really saying we shouldnt investigate people claiming benefits or increase a welfare budget that already runs into 10s of billion pounds. |
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Fair enough Tony. Unless proven otherwise I' happy to accept that you aren't biased and it's just gross stupidity which is driving you.
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any mug stupid enough to play politics with this issue deserves to be smashed............and brother................tonight I'm in the smashing business.
dear oh dear, what a plonker ![]() |
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Clearly you didn't appreciate my reference to Inglorious Bastaards.
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Never seen it, unless of course you mean Inglourious Basterds, which I have seen - a very poor film imo but one which I imagine would appeal to someone of your mentality.
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I refuse to be patronised by a necrophiliac with halitosis. Now go and badger someone else or I'll drag you into the deep water and let you go.
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Savile had bad breath as well?
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Mind you, when you think about it i suppose he would have.
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There was a case recently where a woman died in an ambulance outside the entrance to a hospital.
Can't recall where it was. The medics couldn't get her out of the ambulance because the tail lift wouldn't come down. Shame it wasn't IDS in the ambulance. |
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Never fails does it?
Mention that the govt might be sh1t in some way, and the defender(s) turn up offering "labour supporter, leftie 'point scoring'" rubbish. IDS is responsible for misery. He's the one in charge, HE defends the policy, ATOS are both expensive and mostly wrong, the government and press never stop feeding bulshiit propaganda about how the welfare is bleeding the country dry and he has been proven to be a liar. |
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ATOS, the French lot, went in March.
Maximus, the new lot from the USA, start next March. |
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http://tiny.cc/baphpx
(included in the list above) |
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Studyform
Whether you like them or not they are statements of fact. Labour started this reforming process including changing Incapacity into ESA and employing ATOS. To suggest anything else is simply lies. |
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I'm very confused by MisterBadger's link.
The story is not only in the Guardian, which makes it undoubtedly true, but it's also in the Mail, which makes it undoubtedly lies. |
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Atos were on 14 bags a hit if someone was taken off benefits ,there was probably an extra payment involved for stickability I.E people who did not reclaim within a certaint period ,suicide cases were big earners imo ..
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I'm very confused by MisterBadger's link.
The story is not only in the Guardian, which makes it undoubtedly true, but it's also in the Mail, which makes it undoubtedly lies. That's strange because the link I posted was to the Mirror... do try and keep up ![]() |
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I put my mouse on her name, which puts it into Google.
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I put my mouse on her name, which puts it into Google.
how did you put your mouse on her name when it's a tinylink? ![]() Oh, I get it it, not my link then, no wonder you're very confused innit ![]() |
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Linda Wootton: Double heart and lung transplant dies nine days after she has benefits stopped
The whole headline - moused in 2 seconds. |
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whatever you say cmat, I'm not bothered, the link I posted was to a Daily Mirror story
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FYI, EO.
The involvement of Atos in government benefit contracts dates back to 1998. The Welfare Reform Act 2007 introduced Work Capability Assessments (WCAs) to determine who should receive Employment and Support Allowance (ESA). Decisions are taken by officials at the DWP using evidence from the assessments, carried out by the Atos subsidiary Atos Healthcare.[33] Following the implementation of the Welfare Reform Act 2012 ESA claimants have been subject to rigorous WCAs to determine their level of disability and ability to work.[34][35] Atos has received extensive allegations of severe distress and also widespread deaths amongst those assessed. MPs, the clergy and leading charities have demanded the assessment be withdrawn.[36][37] According to the Financial Times, Atos staff have received death threats as a result of its assessments.[38] On 21 February 2014, Atos confirmed that it is seeking an early exit from its £500 million WCA contract with the DWP.[33] Its departure was announced in March 2014 with a replacement contractor to be appointed in early 2015.[39] Facing questioning by the Commons Work and Pensions Committee, Atos senior vice president Lisa Coleman conceded an inability to make a sufficient profit was a factor in the firm's decision to withdraw from the contract, for which it has had to pay compensation.[40] Atos was also awarded a contract in 2013 to carry out tests for the new Personal Independence Payment (PIP) for disabled people, with the aim of reducing the projected cost of the benefit by 20 per cent by 2015-16. PIP replaces the Disability Living Allowance and determines whether people are entitled to extra money to help cope with disability – such as cars, equipment or nursing. Atos's £400m PIP contracts over five years cover the southeast and north of the UK, accounting for about 75 per cent of disability living allowance claimants. Capita, a rival outsourcing company, has the remainder.[41] In early 2014 Atos was awarded the contract for the care.data General Practice Extraction Service (GPES) program run by the Health and Social Care Information Centre (HSCIC).[42][43] The total value of contracts that had been awarded to Atos by June 2013 was approximately £1.6bn.[44] It was disclosed in November 2013 through the National Audit Office that Atos paid no Corporation Tax at all in the UK in 2012.[45] I think you'll find they didn't have the same brief (or income) under their Labour govt contract. |
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I think it is morally evil
Plus it was the Tories who started all this to hide the unemployment figures I remember late Thatcher/Major I think the government should create more jobs myself..and try helping these people not punishing them I have been there myself |