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Dave Lee Travis Found Guilty Of Indecent Assault

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By:
Dotchinite
When: 24 Sep 14 11:23
They said last night he could face 10 years in prison. I think that would be a bit too much. Six or seven years seems fairer.
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 24 Sep 14 11:27
I WOULD SAY TO THE POSH PEOPLE ITS OK YOU EATING YOUR CAVIAR DO YOU REALISE I CAN ONLY HAVE A CHOCOLATE BISCUIT WHEN THEIR ON OFFER AT MORRISON'S
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 24 Sep 14 11:28
WRONG THREAD SORRYB
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 24 Sep 14 11:53
he will not do a day in nick 1.01 wish some would put a market up
By:
portmanpark
When: 24 Sep 14 12:27
anyone remember mary whitehouse............reckon facts could be her lovechild
By:
portmanpark
When: 24 Sep 14 12:31
malcolm muggeridge his dad
By:
Coachbuster
When: 24 Sep 14 14:20
what he did was wrong ,but let the poor bugger go - he's been hounded enough
By:
attitude adjuster
When: 24 Sep 14 17:16
"Bummer Boulton" LaughShocked
By:
Injera
When: 24 Sep 14 17:16
10-12 seconds is a long time and implies consent...

Did she struggle? What steps did she take to remove his hand?

I had a female client stroke my arm for a similar time the other week. Is that assault? Was she invading my personal space?

I know of a male celebrity who had his bum pinched a while ago by a female fan at the end of the show. He's very well known and was shocked (he told the mum of one of his team).

Should blokes go to the Old Bill every time this happens? Or maybe 18 years later....
By:
pandora1963
When: 24 Sep 14 17:18
karma for being such a c rap dj
By:
call me a taxi
When: 24 Sep 14 17:26
There was a complete **** in our dart league who was having an argument with a player over 'coacing' from the side, when the player tapped his forearm with his darts and said 'You're not all the facking ticket mate.'
He said 'That constitutes assault. I could have you arrested for that.' Laugh
We were hoping he'd make it worthwhile and punch him, but he didn't.
By:
mad mad moon
When: 24 Sep 14 17:27
"Are the cells ready for DLT"
By:
call me a taxi
When: 24 Sep 14 17:27
**** = arse
hole
By:
Injera
When: 24 Sep 14 17:39
What has come across time and again is the lack of self respect these women seem to have.

If ONLY a few of them poked Savile et al in the eye or chucked a piping hot beverage in their ugly faces or better still got their brother or dad to 'have a word'.

Where the **** was their sense of self worth??
By:
Clungehungry
When: 24 Sep 14 17:45
This what if it was your daughter stuff is irrational and immoral. What if it was your dad whose life had been destroyed because of a few apparent moments of madness decades ago which the victim didn't bother reporting at the time? Who people would merrily assert had committed other crimes of which he had actually been found innocent.

If you want to mutilate someone's genitals, you need to seek psychiatric help, rather than pretending it has anything to do with wanting to protect women.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 24 Sep 14 17:50
All people want is for him to get a sentence that reflects the severity of his crimes.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 24 Sep 14 17:52
There was more than one complainant about Travis. You don't think it should have been pursued merely because it took place a couple of decades ago?
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 24 Sep 14 17:53
And I agree with Dotchinite. I'm more of the punch-in-the-face than cut-off-his-balls camp. I'm not a hypocrite though.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 24 Sep 14 17:55
I like how it's 'pretending' to want to protect women, though. Nice psychoanalysis. I won't be getting the psychiatric help I evidently need from you. Thanks for the offer though.
By:
Steamship
When: 24 Sep 14 18:05
I think we must remember he was found not guilty of 12 other assaults.
By:
Injera
When: 24 Sep 14 18:10
Incredible Steamship.

Fella's a scapegoat for police failings elsewhere.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 24 Sep 14 18:12
Maybe they can retry him on those 12 and the new cases that will come forward now he has been convicted of one.
By:
Steamship
When: 24 Sep 14 18:19
Injera I think we are agreeing
By:
naydam
When: 24 Sep 14 18:58
You might well find that he has got away very lightly. Most of the cases were unable to be proven beyond all reasonable doubt.

I think that a few on here don't understand 'unwelcome' advances or that impressionable youngsters can be easily coerced into activities that they are not developed enough to understand.

Personally, I think that many of these perpetrators will be regretting the fact that these people will not remain children forever. Also, with the advances in 'social networking' (which didn't exist) these victims are now realising that they are not the only one. There will be more to come yet.

Same goes for the 'kebab shop' fellas...hopefully all their offences will now be dealt with. We will need some new prisons...or just remove the offending appendages!!
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Sep 14 20:44
If the person was a child at the time I might agree with you Naydam

as she was not I am afraid I don't
By:
EastofEden
When: 24 Sep 14 21:16
happened on BBC premises,handsome compensation awaits
By:
naydam
When: 24 Sep 14 22:18
Ebul. Sorry about that. I did digress into a more general  overview of historic sexual offence cases. In this particular case I meant it to be considered under the 'unwelcome advances' category. Whereas in many of the other recent cases, the 'impressionable youngster' would be more suitable.
However, in both situations, the perpetrators seem to have failed to take into account that their victims might feel more emboldened in later life. Surely, you must also agree that revenge is a dish that is best served cold! Devil
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 24 Sep 14 22:25
reported that the victim is now a celebrity in her own right so I doubt compensation is her motive, it's pretty easy to work out who it is if you google the credits for Mrs. Merton.

Her guest list includes Harris, Fred Talbot and Jimmy Tarbuck amongst others in addition to DLT.

Alright, I was a bit bored...
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Sep 14 22:37
the victim is now a celebrity in her own right

oh dear...how I do not believe her allegation

revenge...that sounds a good word, what it is all about..a load of vindictive and greedy women

I am DLT's side, although I never groped myself
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 24 Sep 14 23:10
Guessing from the above that it's Lucy Porter, who I've heard of but don't really know who she is.

“One moment I was smoking a cigarette and the next thing he was sexually assaulting me.”
Perhaps fearing for her future career, or perhaps too shocked and embarrassed about what had happened the young woman decided not take the matter any further with the police or senior BBC executives.
She decided to put the matter behind her and as the years went by she realised her dream and began to forge her own successful career in the entertainment industry.
It was then that her anger over the incident began to build and it started to bother her that she had not pursued the matter at the time.
She said: “For years I didn't talk about it to anyone, if his name came up I would say 'oh he's a wrong 'un. But when I got to my 30s I began to think that was really out of order.
“It wasn’t par for the course. I got cross that he had done it. What an awful thing to do to someone when they are trying to get on with their job.”
Eventually in 2012 following the exposure of the Jimmy Savile scandal, she decided to open up to a male friend, who also worked in showbusiness.
Despite having confided in friends about what had happened, it was not until Travis appeared in court charged with a string of other similar allegations that she plucked up the courage to go to the police.
In February this year, Travis was cleared of 12 counts of indecent assault, with the jury failing to reach verdicts on two other charges.
When the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), amid some controversy, announced it was seeking a retrial, it was decided to charge Travis in relation to the 1995 attack.


Yep, definitely sounds like she was just being greedy and vindictive.
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Sep 14 23:17
yes it does

Perhaps fearing for her future career, or perhaps too shocked and embarrassed about what had happened the young woman decided not take the matter any further with the police or senior BBC executives.

then why bother 18 years later?????
If not our of vindictiveness or greed??????????????????

She could hardly have been bothered if she did not report it at the time could she?

The above statement is a fairy story, in my opinion
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 24 Sep 14 23:19
How do you suppose she would gain financially from it? You think she'll get free cornflakes for life or something?
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 24 Sep 14 23:20
Presumably she bothered 18 years later so that a serial sex pest might just get the justice he deserves.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 24 Sep 14 23:22
And she did report it at the time. I probably should have added it to my 23:10 poost, though you'd still probably dismiss it as fantqasy on her part.

Despite being in shock over what had just happened, the young woman, who had just graduated from university realised she had to tell someone about what had just happened and went straight to her boss, Peter Kessler, a BBC producer and blurted out: “'Oh my God, Dave Lee Travis just grabbed my ****.”
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 24 Sep 14 23:24
Can't blame her for not going to the police at the time as, judging by the majority of responses on this thread, there was  something wrong with a man if he wasn't grabbing birds by the tits in those halcyon days when it was our right.
By:
dunlaying
When: 24 Sep 14 23:33
Needham's Bowling Alley, High Wycombe, circa 1973, 13 year olds. Not alone but with an "Imperial" gentleman .
By:
dunlaying
When: 24 Sep 14 23:35
Of course I do not mean Emperor Rosko,how dare you!
By:
ebulGery
When: 24 Sep 14 23:57
In this life I think you will find most women have probably been touched inappropriately
at one time or another...that is life...although most men do not do it

“'Oh my God, Dave Lee Travis just grabbed my ****.”
fair enough, she could have gone to the police, also where has all that extra time come in????

To report this 18 years late, is ridiculous...

Well I see I am not going to convince you Mikael, fair enough
How do you know DLT ain't got any money?
By:
charwell.
When: 25 Sep 14 00:16
In this life I think you will find most women have probably been touched inappropriately
at one time or another...that is life...


Jesus wept. At one time or another blacks were slaves, I suppose this is alright. Sorry but no males in my family have ever treated women with anything other than respect. Groping women has never been justifiable as 'part and parcel of life.'

When Nazi war criminals were captured 20 years later do  you think it is ok to excuse them of their crimes as 'it was a different era' or 'a lot of water has passed under the bridge.' Clearly the seriousness of the crime is very different but the principal is the same.

It can take people a long time to confront things they are ashamed of and want hidden. And only when they feel their voice will be heard can they step forward. To use the passage of time as an excuse for inappropriate behaviour has never served justice well. You cannot judge victims actions, only the offenders when the truth is out. And DLT knew what he was doing and no doubt knew it was wrong; but he was clearly a sexual predator who thought only of his own gratification and abused his power as a leading light in the Beeb to shield him from retribution.
By:
ebulGery
When: 25 Sep 14 00:29
When Nazi war criminals were captured 20 years later do

FFS...that is a ridiculous comparison,

It can take people a long time to confront things they are ashamed of and want hidden

She went and told her boss straight away????????????????????????????????????????????

anyway another one I am not going to convince

still you did promote me from being a Paedo or Paedo Apologist

to a lecherous old perv,

Although I did partly agree with you on reflection, the underage age claims had to be followed up

I still don't believe most of these women sorry
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