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Dave Lee Travis Found Guilty Of Indecent Assault
Dave Lee Travis Found Guilty Of Indecent Assault
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Seems strong feelings about this one. Judging by the verdict Travis was a bit of a dirty fuccker using his status to cop a free feel. I don't think you can put him in the same league as someone like Savile or indeed Hall. Nobody is saying that it was right at that time but there were many men classed as having wandering hands and different women had different mechanisms for coping with it with some burying their feelings because of the power differential which people like Travis played to the hilt. Not forgetting also that the culture in humour was one of smutty sexual innuendo designed to lesson the issue. Emery, Dawson, Benny Hill all had aspects of their acts playing up to this stereotype of the lecherous individual who couldn't keep his hands to himself.
I don't feel sorry for him but neither do I think he should be made an example of. So much time has past. His current shame and financial ruination are punishment eough in my view. |
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A pervert on trial must dream of a chit chat jury
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unless he's black or a muslim
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And how could these victims of sexual assault react that would make you believe them? You see, this attitude of "I don't believe them" is precisely WHY they aren't reported. The women, girls or children that are assaulted are told that 'nobody will believe you' or threats are made against their family or their future employment. There are always ways that the perpetrator can assert his position of control over the lesser or younger victim. This is made more difficult by a tendency of victims not wishing to disclose these assaults for a variety of personal reasons. It wouldn't take too much imagine to realise this.
But this, of course, can change markedly as the perpetrators relatively powerful position diminishes and the victim matures. As for being 'vindictive'...you bet they are are phuck1ng vindictive! And rightly so. He should have thought of that years ago. Once again I am not referring to this case in isolation...more as a general overview of sexual assault cases. |
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*imagination*
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I'd say that the broadly sympathetic view for DLT on this thread isn't about it not being serious, but about the draconian sentances that have been handed down to people like Stuart Hall and Rold Harris recently. If I thought DLT was going to get a proportionate sentance like 150 hours of community service, I wouldn't give a toss, but Yew Tree is an absolute witch hunt.
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Draconian sentences? I'm all for punching DLT in the face but Hall, especially, deserves his knackers cut off, although I concede that I require psychiatric help.
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Tell me about your mother
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LOL!
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I agree stevie
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You think it is right to be vindictive for life when a someone attempts to grope a 23 year women
Naydam still no chance of us agreeing on this one...I accept that is your view |
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Once again I must state that my observations are with regard to these historic assault cases in general, not just this case specifically.
However, he wouldn't have been in this situation if he had stopped to consider that some women MIGHT be vindictive. It takes all sorts. Quite apart from that...she only told the police about him. Do you call that vindictive? |
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DLT is just a dirty old git, but what he done for a sexual thrill was not in the same league as Savile. In terms of sentence he could go to jail, but he is also facing a possible civil action accused of sexually abusing a girl who was primary school age, she seems determined to take her case to the civil courts. Still in deep sh1t !
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You don't know how times have changed Naydam
in past days an attempted grope was probably not that big a deal |
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He is very unlucky in that he has been acquitted on all charges that he was originally charged and retried on. This girl only came forward after the first trial so if there was no original trial this would never have come to light. He does not deserve to go to jail as he has been ruined financially with the costs of the trial, that is enough punishment along with the stress of 2 trials.
The CPS are bringing the justice system into disrepute by bringing these type of cases |
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His crime was he did not know how society would change in the future
For under age girls, no change there, never accepted, so yes they can be pursued |
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totally agree mr combustible
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I wonder if he was acquitted of all charges in the first trial whether the CPS would have bought this single case to court, in my opinion I doubt it.
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If charged & convicted with this offence 17 years ago would he have gone to prison ?
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yep.thats it in a nutshell mr c
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17 years ago the police would of told her to fek off and stop wasting there time
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Her story..she was groped for 10 - 12 secs, why did she not move away, unless she was enjoying it
She tells her boss immediately DLT groped my tit then amazingly she suppresses this out of guilt and shame.....hardly seems likely from a 23 year old woman Her motive: DLT grabbed her tit, she did not like it, women are like elephants, so she decides to get him back She probably did not realise DLT was broke when she went to the police My assumption: her motive was vindictiveness and greed some people think he got what he deserved I cant answer that |
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DLT has to be punished by the law at the time...otherwise it is not justice
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Then he wont get a custodial sentence.
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agree pumphol...we shall see?
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Previous sentences in other trials have been based on tariffs given out when the offence took place, ridiculous statements from some of the media saying he could get 10 years
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For one grope.........jesus!
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Gropers beware! Ask not for whom the bell tolls lest it tolls for thee.
My conscience is clear. Plenty gropes, but NEVER without consent. Thereby lies the difference. |
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What about all the women who've groped me? Should I report them. I didn't enjoy it. Most of the time it was completely unexpected. I've had a bruise on my bum one woman sqeezed so hard. Plus 3 instances of my genitals being fondled completely out of the blue. Should I have reported them? Just told most of them to feck off.
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was it the Indian chick ?
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No, well before her time.lol I'm talking 70's to mid 90's.
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Darby and Joan club worse than Rooney
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ffs i was in my 20's in the 70s
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soz can 10 pints kicking in
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E Bul I really think you are clueless in the ways of life, and perhaps are very inexperienced dealing with the opposite sex, perhaps you are a virgin as your naivety is shocking.
I am sorry but being a lecherous sex pest has never been allowable so get a grip FFS. |
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I got groped by a bird in a car in Rochester in the mid 1970s.
Facked if I was going to complain, it turned into a BJ. The difficult bit was trying to change gear driving up Chatham Hill. |
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automatic your friend
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What was wrong with the clothes you were wearing, cmat?
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I'm not a facking scouser, clothes are clothes, not gear.
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Are there any threads about clothes for me to check on that?
I bid you goodnight and leave you to work that one out. Probably the most work you will have done for a while  |