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Parents of King boy with brain tumour - why no threads on here ?
Parents of King boy with brain tumour - why no threads on here ?
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yeah some jumped up c***in a suit is worried lots of other families will swarm them for more expensive treatment if they give in.....so instead of lettign them go to spain they kick up a fuss.......
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Cameron will give em millions...........as he has wiv the Mccans....................hes a sucker for all this ................
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On midlands news. A cancer victim charity, has stated they will immediately fund £ 100,000 for the treatment the parents are asking for. So, what's to stop the process that releases the parents , reunites with child, and get them all to the nearest place that can give this treatment. Everything and anything else is pure face saving bullshilt on behalf of the medics in the uk hospital and the police.
Any further delays ( legal process etc ) would be nothing other than obscene. |
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Make sure you never head for the borders with your family and a sick child.
However, if you are a rochdale born resident or an illegal - either crossing borders, you will not be pursued once you are over the line. |
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The gutless guardian, that defender of freedom of speech and human rights, won't even open a comments column on it which says it all.
That dreadful spiteful rag the daily mail has 2,700 comments. |
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now I am completely losing it - the police fkn searched the granmother's home
un fkn believable - and you wonder why the police are losing respectability shame they couldn't have been this efficient or quick in the rochdale and a zillion other grooming gang cases |
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' ......It is perfectly possible to challenge medical advice. One of the most important principles of healthcare is that the patient must consent to treatment.
Anyone aged 16 and over can refuse treatment if they wish unless they are deemed not to have the ability to do so under the Mental Capacity Act. For children under that age, additional consent from a person with parental responsibility is required unless the patient has enough understanding and intelligence to fully appreciate what is involved in their treatment. If the person with parental responsibility refuses treatment and doctors believe that decision could lead to death or severe permanent injury an application can be made to the court of protection to overrule them. When it comes to wanting treatment that is not being offered, it is less clear cut. Patients do not have an automatic right to a second opinion although most hospitals will give them one. Many also have ethical committees - or similar groups - that will consider individual cases when treatment options are disputed. Beyond that patients can - and have in the past - applied for a judicial review......' |
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just another example of the ridiculous state the police force of this country is in,one person in south Yorkshire makes a claim against sir cr he has his house raided and is interviewed 1400 children as messed around with by our friends from Pakistan a blind eye is turned,2 parents will do anything to help there poorly child and are now in a foreign jail.
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There seems to be an awful lot of opinion on here and very little of it could be classed as 'considered'.
I would guess that, when the full facts about this event come to light, there will be a lot of chit-chatters mumbling "Ah well, nobody told us that."...Or maybe they won't. But I DO think that everybody has heard only one side of a complex story. Data protection and patient confidentiality rules mean that the true unfettered facts are unlikely to be available any time soon! |
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Like the "unfettered fact" that the parents are Jehovah's Witnesses's was released?
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Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has called for the parents of brain tumour patient Ashya King to be released from custody and reunited with their son.
Brett and Naghemeh King are being held by police in Madrid after removing Ashya from hospital in Southampton and travelling to Spain. There have been growing calls for their release after they spent another night away from the five-year-old. Mr Clegg said his "heart goes out" to the parents . "A little boy is on his own in a hospital, I would like to see him with his family as soon as possible," he said. "As far as I can make out, this is a family in a state of real anguish who have taken this exceptional step of moving their sick child to another country because they think that's what is best for their child." He believes it is "not appropriate" to "throw the full force of the law" at the parents. The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said the case against the couple was under "immediate review" after further evidence was provided. A spokesman said: "Once this evidence has been thoroughly examined, a decision will then be made as to whether a prosecution is required." Meanwhile, the couple's lawyer in Spain, Juan Isidro Fernandez Diaz, said they are preparing to take legal action against Southampton General Hospital. Good. |
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This sorry tale and the "raised terror threshold" have removed UKIP from the headlines.
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Plod have finally realised what bunch of incompetent mugs they look and are trying to back down:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29036154 |
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VICTORY for common sense 1 PLOD 0
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You might well find that the police are simply carrying out the rulings of the courts. You know, like doing their job.
I think it highly unlikely that the police do these things of their own volition. They are far more likely to be following preset procedures and systems set out by law...as is their job. |
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id blame the goverment, this is all down to MONEY, ya know that paper stuff they print when they want to bailout the greedy elite, spend billions on paying for are foreign friends needs and the the trouble they cause in bringing good old britain to its knees . UP THE UKIP, its my duty .
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naydam,
true to form, running to the defence of plod. |
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lets hope it doesnt all end in tears hospitals sometimes have to be cruel to be kind,in 99.9% of cases its best left to the proffesionals, 20 mins on the internet doesnt make us all open heart surgeons
dont really no what the significance is of a 70,000 signed petition when 69,994 of those signing dont no the facts |
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I believe the child was made a 'ward of court'. I don't defend plod or anybody else for that matter. I just try to get some people to try to form a rational opinion of their own, based upon what few facts they have to form a judgement.
It doesn't take too much rational thinking to decide that this is a far more complex affair than might first appear. My opinions on 'Plod' with regard to these Pakistani grooming gangs and heir lack of response to rape charges would probably get me banned. I do not defend guilty parties. |
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^To Wesdaq.^^^^^^^^
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Time to knock the medical profession off their fookin perch imo, can reach out with full force of the law across europe, becuase they dont like that patient has difference of opinion
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the patient didnt
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who know but ok, the patient's parents then, what difference does it make
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theres 1000,s of cancer patients in hospitals who might think a more expensive drug or different form of treatment might help them ,are we advocating that they should all leave put there properties up for sale or spend their live savings on a treatment they,ve read about on the internet
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You think they should be locked up in spanish jail for thinking about it instead?
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cause not but if this goes belly up an awful lot of people could end up with egg on their faces
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Everyone is distancing themselves from Southampton Hospital like they have sh!t in their pants, doesnt take sherlock holmes to work out whose at fault here. Clegg, CPS and police dont come out and say what they have said today otherwise.
Hope the parents do sue them, but maybe they will settle out of court with gagging order like so many malpractice suits |
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"All our thoughts are with the family and we're thinking about Ashya's health" - Jeremy Hunt.
Inside he must be seething. The very man who wants to scrap of the NHS! You don't fool me Jeremy  Get well soon Ashya |
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naydam,
no laws were broken when the parents removed the child from the hospital and that is the crux of the matter. |
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I remember someone posted on chit - chat a few years back that once you go to the registry office to register the birth of your baby you have effectively given up the right to own your new born baby, the Government will let you look after it till its 18 but until then if you behave yourself no-one will come calling to take your baby away from you but it certainly no longer belongs to you, I thought at the time that that is probably spot on & an episode such as this certainly hammers that school of thought home.
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Wesdaq. I don't know any of the facts of what occurred. However, I'm fairly sure that the welfare of the child is the main concern of ALL departments involved...even when this may be contrary to the wishes of the parent(s).
The human rights of the sick child outrank those of the parent. I don't know how the kid was removed from the hospital, but I would guess it was against medical advice. So he was made a 'ward of court'. Kidnapped might be similar. Now it's alright for everybody to clamour against the actions of the authorities...but ask yourself this: How were they supposed what this man planned to do next? How did they know what his plans were supposed to be? And last, but by no means least: Did he really go to Spain to sell his house? Why take all the family? Why not just go on his own, sort out the sale and return? Wouldn't that be quickest and easiest? |
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How did they know what his plans were supposed to be?
I would imagine that he told them if they wouldn't supply the treatment he would take him somewhere that would. There has been conflict reported between the parents and the hospital so it wasn't just a case of him disappearing without any reason. The propery in Spain is i believe owned by the wife's mother. And would presumably have to have her consent? |
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naydam,
it is precisely due to this hysterical nonsense why plod behaved as they did. It has been established that the child's life was never in danger and since when has it been a crime to take your family to Spain? When you see Cameron & Clegg not siding with plod, that tells you everything you should need to know. Still, there are those that will always side with plod regardless of the facts. |
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Kid was removed by a very worried parent ,an educated resposible person who acted with the best intent .
Naydam give it a rest please ,these people have been forced into a corner and then hunted down like criminals and put in jail and had there family put through extreme duress ,parted from there sick kid all because they disagreed with the state . |
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its seems on a daily basis plod make complete and utter tw.ts of themselves.
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I think Brendan has it, the Soton General Hospital statement was poorly timed, defensive and quickly buried by the media.
As usual, the media miss the big picture and let Cameron and Clegg of scott free with the opportunity to act as cheerleader for the Kings: Why -given the level of investment in the NHS and the amounts donated to cancer charities annually by the marvelously generous British public- is there a proton beam therapy centre in the Czech Republic already and yet we have to wait until 2018? We're probably indirectly subsidising the CR centre via the EU. |
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Good evening Jim. How's the on-course battle going?
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what is worrying in this case is the parent concerned does not appear to look or act as some sort of chav or daftie ,seems a reasoned person but the state has used everything at there disposal to ride roughshod over this family ,dont particularly blame the police as they would have acted in good faith its just the whole package ,they are right and the parent is wrong ,MSM has as ever been shameless in its early reporting but again just doing its job
Agree totally about the media missing the big picture here |
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The proton beam was developed in the UK. And has been used 99 times already in the UK. Why it wasn't deemed 'appropriate' in Ayesha'a case is a matter for the NHS to explain as i'm pretty sure the 99 times it has been used was in private practice..
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If NHS won't use the treatment on ground of cost, then why is the idiotic State persecuting the parents for trying to seek the treatment?
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