When every job in the future is done by robots? full unemployment will be the norm? therefore unemployed people are more evolved. accepting that work is redundant. a futile endeavor reserved for robots.

bots

Totally agree JR...that stinks - many sympathies to your mate

cameras will be placed in your house - you will have to swing a hammer about to show you are working while the robots do the real work. Car factory robots building cars. mining robots doing the digging. Lawyer robots doing the paperwork. gambling bots winning the cash.

Akabula - that's what they WANT you to think...you're being played like a harp.
Those two issues ARE a concern but they're far from the be all & end all - do you really believe that if we close the door and stop a few bums from sponging that the country will be fine & dandy?

If anyone who spouts the government-fed propaganda believes the bullplop they're spouting they are;
a, naïve
b, foolish to think the stuff they're being convinced into thinking/saying is to anyone's real advantage.

Most people on benefits are not there through choice even if SOME are.
50% of the welfare budget is pensions.
The people who run things are also living off our money too and they not only earn plenty, but get pay rises while all around the majority of us scrabble about for what's left.
The Government are fighting tooth and nail for example, to keep banker's bonuses at the ridiculous rate they're at, rather than accept the European ruling that they should be capped at 200% of salary.
The cabinet is comprised of very very wealthy people who couldn't give a tinker's cuss about the average working person and will revel in the job they've done getting loads of people to deride a load of other people by stereotyping and clever marketing/advertising/propaganda - which has probably cost us millions too.
As much has been spent on taking potential money from the needy, especially via ATOS, as has actually been 'saved'. That money WOULD have gone back into circulation and been spent. Instead it has been given to Foreign IT companies and people who already have plenty and will not be spending it.

It's a big con, and sadly, too many people are being conned.

Although it isn't a very good analogy, it isn't a million miles from the OP's assertion.

Channel 5 had many messages last night on the comments section of the programme in question. Most of those criticising the programme or mentioning the propaganda aspect of it were 'removed by the moderator'.
It IS a massive conspiracy.

Another conspiracy.

So some lazy turd of a woman wants to churn out kid after kid knowing that she'll need benefits to keep them and we should just accept this. It's premeditated child neglect. What do you suggest we do?

Akabula - some calculations need to be done to chop the amount accordingly, but the people on these shows are RARITIES - not the norm!
It's obscene that they get the same amount for each kid making them incentivised to have more & more...that unquestionably is wrong and any reasonable person would agree with that.

i have found that when the boots on the other foot the attitude soon  changes! as navel g says they scream the loudest when it happens to them .

In answer to Navel-Gazer:

Now, are the 'dole scroungers should take any job' telling me that this guy has to take a shittty minim um wage job or lose his unemployment benefit?

Absolutely.

that's coz you are A TOTAL KUNNNT ROB

@judo tough luck on your mate and I hope he gets sorted soon but why should we pay for him to wait for a similar opening.

Women must be encouraged to have as many children as possible and awarded for doing so.
Part of the reason we are having to import so many foreigners is our declining birth rate. Total Fertility Rates fell to its lowest point ever in 2001, and even with increased immigration since we are still going to require millions more immigrants to pay for future pensions, even the governments own think tank has come to this conclusion.

Tory Grant Shapps did at least get one thing right on QT last week when he said for the economy to expand and us all get richer, we need more people (future workers). Those who say Britain is too overcrowded already are talking through their anuses. Obviously never been to Hong Kong or Singapore. Only 9% of Britain is developed, we can build many more cities & expand existing cities etc.

Part of the reason we are having to import so many foreigners is our declining birth rate. Total Fertility Rates fell to its lowest point ever in 2001, and even with increased immigration since we are still going to require millions more immigrants to pay for future pensions, even the governments own think tank has come to this conclusion.

Tell that to the 1.5 mil under 25's out of work.

judo tough luck on your mate and I hope he gets sorted soon but why should we pay for him to wait for a similar opening.

He's paid for himself.

2 questions.

Are there enough jobs available for all the people on benefits to do?
Would any of you employ a scrounging chav type layabout non-worker?

I'm pretty sure the answer to both is no.

Still, never mind, the tories will bring back workhouses eventually, so the underclasses and plebs aren't in their line of vision.
Even if those underclasses and plebs are simply good people unable to afford to run small businesses, or have been made redundant, or become ill.

norhern liar has completely lost it now

but you just wait till the chinese arrive

they are buying up britain as fast as they can go and will soon be cracking the whip

and when they bring in their own minimum wage you will understand what living on the poverty line
is!!!

coz rest assured it will be the chinese cracking the whip

Part of the reason we are having to import so many foreigners is our declining birth rate. Total Fertility Rates fell to its lowest point ever in 2001, and even with increased immigration since we are still going to require millions more immigrants to pay for future pensions, even the governments own think tank has come to this conclusion.

then I suggest they think again...that is a crap solution
what happens when the immigrants get old?

These people are paid a lot of money...which they do not appear to have earnt
0/10..please try harder
I suggest they earn it...and come up with something better ok

our problem is we have too many people in this country..there is not enough work for them

increasing immigration will make this problem worse not better

the solution is in fact obvious, people must work longer to their 70s 80s even 90s...

which is in fact a more useful thing for them to do then sitting about doing nothing

we must tailor our population to the amount of jobs available

It shows why this country is in a mess...there is no party we can vote in who are capable of making sensible decisions

our present system of democracy is failing

keep the red flag flying