Steamship:WHY did they show Madeline asking Kate about being left alone the previous night?

Because it is well documented evidence,

and, for once, 

it was a reconstruction/documentary not controlled by the McCanns.

Steamship. Because the order was placed for a fair-haired girl? Possibly THAT specific girl!

no entirely clear to me that these e-fits originated from The Smiths.  Someone else..not sure?

the program last night was sensationalism at its best. nothing will come of it.

Steamship 15 Oct 13 22:27 Joined: 01 Apr 10 | Topic/replies: 3,859 | Blogger: Steamship's blog

Why not take 1 of the babies?

Because the kidnapper prefers a more mature 3 year old for his sexual gratification.

Sorry but thats just a stupid question.  Nobody knows why she was abducted and by whom but you would have to presume if the she was abducted theres a good chance it was by someone intent on abusing her. Asking why not take one of the babies is like asking why was the Playstation taken from HMV instead of the Xbox.

That's the point. What do you expect in answer to your question without knowing who the abducter was or why? They may have chosen her over the babies because they would prefer to fiddle with her, because they wanted a girl and she was more easily indentified as one in bed,  because she was cuter, because she looked the most docile, because she was awake and would remember or because she was the one seen and surveyed in the days before.

Portugal Newswatch


Reflections on current affairs in Portugal by journalist and author Len Port.


McCanns’ €1 million libel action


The unanswered question of what happened to Madeleine is at the root of the McCanns vs Amaral libel hearing now underway in Lisbon.

With the hearing in recess for a few days, it is perhaps a good moment to reflect dispassionately on just how polarised public opinion is over the mystery of Madeleine’s disappearance more than six years ago.

The question is not for the libel hearing to consider, of course, but this legal action once again highlights the fact that public opinion is broadly split into two camps.

The McCanns have always insisted their daughter was abducted. During the original investigation, the lead detective Gonçalo Amaral became convinced she died in the holiday apartment, that her body was secretly disposed of, and that the McCanns lied about it.

In the absence of proof beyond all reasonable doubt, both theories remain just that – theories. Broadly speaking, the mainstream media in the UK seem to have accepted abduction and are sympathetic to the McCanns. Internet forums dedicated to the subject are generally of the opposite view and are awash with criticisms of the McCanns. Defamation laws restrain the mainstream media. Not so the Internet.

Central to the present libel action is the book The Truth of the Lie in which Amaral sets out his considered conclusions. The McCanns argue that not only does the book defame them personally, but by influencing public opinion it has also hindered efforts to find Madeleine.

What is being contested is not only Amaral’s views, but his right to express them publicly. It is a freedom of expression issue.

It was inevitable that the libel case would further rally supporters on either side. Many strongly believe the McCanns have been shamefully treated. Many others equally strongly believe Amaral has similarly suffered.

“That man has caused so much upset and anger because of how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine and the search to find her,” Kate McCann has written.

“I’ve been left with no chances, no way of paying my debts and liens on my property. I’ve had to move away from my family in order to protect them.” Amaral told a reporter who interviewed him about the pending libel action.

The courts have been ponderous. The controversial book published in July 2008, and a video of the same title made from a documentary shown on Portuguese TV, were both banned by a civil court in Lisbon in September 2009. The ban was confirmed in January 2010.

A higher court overturned the ban in October of 2010 and this was upheld in March 2011.

The current civil case against Amaral, his publishers and the video makers had been much delayed. It was last postponed in January this year to give both parties time to reach an extrajudicial agreement. This did not happen. The case finally went ahead on Thursday and Friday with the McCanns demanding more than €1 million in damages.

The main testimony so far has been that of a psychologist specialising in dealing with children who have suffered trauma. He told the hearing that Madeleine’s twin siblings could be in danger of developing mental problems if they were to discover the claims made in Amaral’s book.

The seven-day hearing is being strung out over several weeks. It is scheduled to conclude on the 5th of November.

The strength of public opinion is such that many have already made up their minds, but the court could go either way.

Mrs McCann told reporters on arrival in Lisbon: “I’m here to stop the damage that has been caused and is still being caused, both directly and indirectly, to the search for our daughter.”

The book has been out for five years. It is said to have sold 200,000 copies, been translated into nine languages and its contents are available on the Internet.   

Meanwhile, more than six years after she disappeared, there is still no hint of a definative answer to the question, what happened to Madeleine?

In the interest of maintaining a balance, possibly?

INTERESTING ARTICLE:

Was It Gerry McCann?



World woke today still reeling from 'Redwood's Revelation'


Was it Gerry McCann who the Irish witness Martin Smith saw carrying a child of McCanns description, carrying a child of
Madeleine's?


Irish Witness Martin Smith believes so!


The Portuguese Police never at any time believed the sighting by Jane Tanner the holiday companion of the McCanns.


The Smith sighting they viewed quite differently.

The Portuguese investigation was shelved in 2008.

The McCann private detectives though for the past SIX YEARS have ignored the Smith sighting preferring to go with that of their companion Jane Tanner, despite the Portuguese insisting it was not credible


McCanns would not have it any other way - the Smith sighting, where the man carrying the child was described by the witness as being Gerry McCann - was dismissed by them for quite obvious reasons.


As Andy Redwood made his revelations - McCann is now once again under scrutiny!


Was it him or one of his tapas companions, two of them who look very similar to McCann?


It now begs the question - Was the child seen by the Smith family, not only by Martin Smith - Madeleine?


Was she alive at this time or had she had an accident earlier in the evening and this was someone taking her away from the apartment?


Andy Redwood by highlighting  this sighting by the Smiths, which the Portuguese Police did before him, back six years ago...has allowed the net to be cast wide...but perhaps it doesn't require to stretch that far?


McCann looked uncomfortable, to put it mildly on Crimewatch...and some may say understandably so now that they know he, McCann is who Mr Smith believes he saw carrying the child!


It brings into question too the £hundreds of thousand of monies donated to their Fund which they McCanns say they paid to private detectives.


Why was so many £hundreds of thousands of the money donated by the public squandered in this way - mis-directed?


Supporters of the McCanns who robustly refused to believe that the Tanner sighting was false - accusing Dr Goncalo Amaral in particular of being a keystone cop for suggesting that Tanner sighting was not credible, must today be wondering if they have been taken for a ride - and a costly one at that -by the McCanns.

It was the McCanns who produced - Madeleine Was Here and in this documentary plugged the Tanner sighting!

The Portuguese Police played no part in this!

And Kate McCann sold millions of copies of her book 'Madeleine' based on their story, which has now been proved to be false!


Ironically, Kate McCann is suing the retired detective Dr Goncalo Amaral - for publishing the findings of the police investigation in his book Maddie a Verdade da Mentira wherein he states that the Tanner sighting was not credible.


Seems Dr Goncalo Amaral, the Portuguese Police got it right!

Kate McCann now needs to answer some tough questions as it is her book 'Madeleine' which now requires to come under close scrutiny!

The public in general must now be wondering what exactly has been going on in this case - so many have made huge profits from Madeleine's disappearance.  Her parents, their Fund, the many teams of lawyers in their employ and of course Clarence Mitchell!

(Clarence of course will have had a hand in this latest nonsense)


It is clear to all now that the McCann private detectives, the professional, Dave Edgar in particular, through IGNORING what the Portuguese Police said six years ago  - Tanner sighting just not credible - and insisting on going with the McCanns and their companions version of events, hindered their own investigation, and perhaps have prevented the discovery of Madeleine, what happened to her and her whereabouts.


It rather begs the question - Why would no one listen to what the Portuguese Police had already established, yet they are prepared to listen to the Metropolitan Police?


Dave Edgar today, and the McCanns also must now ask themselves why did they leave such a big stone unturned?


The Portuguese Police know why, and I am guessing the world now does too! 

Was Madeleine carried by her father?   By one of the other members of his group?  Was Madeleine alive at the time of this sighting by Martin Smith and his family?

Has Redwood opened a can of worms that Gerry McCann would rather have been kept the lid tightly and firmly closed?   Something which he, his wife, Clarence Mitchell, and Dave Edgar had managed quite successfully to do - until now!

So many more questions now requiring answers and the public will ask - there is no doubt about that!

The wider world too will now be asking 'WAS IT McCANN?

Perhaps one of the blonde haired German guys being sought as witnesses will say in answer - JA!

We could forgive the Portuguese Police if they were today having a 'WE TOLD YOU SO' moment!   And rightly too.


They told us 'so' six years ago!

re:Thy sure are putting a lot of effort into keeping this case alive when two guilty people would, more likely, be relieved to let it fade away.

perhaps the case is being kept alive by only one innocent person...

A Norwegian woman with the tip-off on Norway's TV2 channel  saw a new suspect in the long-running case.

"There was a lady who had been on holiday in Spain two and a half years ago," Abrahamsen told TV2. "At a mall, she believed she observed the girl with an older man, and was quite sure about this."



the type of crimewatch phonecall

So you think that the 'one innocent person' would be totally unaware of the guilt of the 'other innocent person'?

I don't see why that couldn't be a possibility.

another question.

did the mcanns see any of these people loitering about or see any charity collectors knock at their door?

when did this come to light in the investigation?

Crimewatch is obviously very sucessful when featuring local crimes but it's a mystery why a large amount of time and money was spent on a 6 year old case in a foreign country.
Other than the McCanns' continual successful manipulation of the media.

I certainly would not want to be consulted by either of them.

dentists are the biggest lying robbing *****

He was/is a Consultant in Cardiology.She was /is a GP.Have a guess at their combined annual income,yet too mean to pay for a child-minder.They deserve their torment.

just them

You lot are a tough crowd, is there any need for it

yes they left their kids unattended but you come across as if you've never done anything you've regretted in your life, if i were them, id milk everyone and anything no matter how unfair it was to try to find my missing child, the hatred for them is unhealthy