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By:
Tommy Toes
When: 12 Dec 13 14:29
Great stuff Wallflower.
By:
twizzle22
When: 12 Dec 13 14:47
I started the 5/2 over 14 months ago and have managed to sustain my weight loss (approx 2 stone) with ease.Monday is my main day where i keep strictly to 600 cals and on the other day not quite as strict but still very careful( have a chicken kebab and throw away the pittar bread).My wife suffered from headaches so she only limits herself to the one day and she has also sustained her early weight loss. Its a way of life now and its brilliant.I still drink approx 12 pints of ale a week..to anyone who wants to lose weight just DO IT.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 12 Dec 13 14:50
Brilliant, Twizzle.

It's so good to see a 'plan' which really works for people - long term.
By:
twizzle22
When: 12 Dec 13 15:01
Cheers Tom.
By:
sideshowbob
When: 12 Dec 13 15:33
easiest way to lose weight is to live on chicken/turkey breast and vegetables. dun half get boring though.

the next best thing is to cut out one meal. the last one. that makes the weight drop off.
thats why its funny when the ads say swap one meal for special k or swap one meal for those milkshakes helps you lose weight. well aye, it would do lol. swap one meal for nowt would work even better.
By:
twizzle22
When: 12 Dec 13 15:58
Bob..thats the problem with conventional weight loss plans..it can be deadly boring. With the 5/2 a two day restriction allows you to eat what you like during the remainder of the week.
By:
Capt__F
When: 12 Dec 13 16:53
nice won guys well done
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 03 Jan 14 15:41
There's a really interesting 3 part article on the BBC site at the moment about fasting and its possible benefits.

First part:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25498742

Second part:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25498743

Third part:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25549805
By:
twizzle22
When: 03 Jan 14 17:21
Grateful for the links Tom...all three articles make very interesting reading..more evidence that intermittent fasting has many health benefits including weight loss and a general feeling of well being.Not sure i could do 5 days on the spin though.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 03 Jan 14 17:51
Twizzle, I've always been very interested in what we eat - primarily because I've had so much stomach trouble!

Through first developing a stomach ulcer at just 22 years of age I've had many years, off and on, of severely limiting my food intake - just because I didn't want to 'hurt'.

Family and friends were always telling me that what I was doing was 'wrong' (in limiting my diet so much) - but I never took a blind bit of notice of them as I knew what I was doing was right - ie, not hurting myself. but eating enough to keep my body healthy.

It's of great interest to me that all these years later there's so much scientific evidence coming out now about how restricting your calories (in particular) is good for you.

For my part; I always feel far better when I have little to eat. Far more alert and 'cognitive', if you will.

People, particularly in the Western world, have become 'used to' eating far more than they need to - and all the tripe about 'big is beautiful' and such stuff which has been promoted over the last 25 years in particular is doing no good whatsoever to anyone - other than the multi-national food companies and their profits.
By:
twizzle22
When: 03 Jan 14 18:48
Top post..agree with everything you say.Bit like yourself i have suffered with I.B.S and diverticulitis for some time.Since i began intermittent fasting in Aug 2012 my symptoms have improved immensely.The conglomerates must hate these type of reports.
By:
Wallflower
When: 03 Jan 14 19:08
Came "off" 5:2 over last two weeks - just wasn't practical, away from home, at family events and various other things.....will return to 5:2 on Monday January 6th, and looking forward to it!

In the 50 weeks or so I did in 2013, I would have "fasted" on 2 days at least 40 of those weeks and at least 1 day every week. Like others I noticed my appetite reduced noticeably, I ate whatever I liked and as much as I liked (my diet is generally quite good, I think anyway), but paradoxically I just seemed to eat less overall.

My first "fasts" were hard, I was "starving".... but of course they became easy and normal.

What I have noticed after these last 2 weeks of big meals, gunge, sweets etc - its the old pattern - the more I eat the more "peckish" I get....and I certainly don't feel as healthy. Thankfully, I have the solution now.

Someone said when I started it, it would be one of the best things I ever did. They were right.
By:
twizzle22
When: 03 Jan 14 19:13
Well done wallflower..keep spreading the gospelHappy
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 03 Jan 14 19:39
Quite often I do the 16:8 fast. That means I eat during an 8 hour window.

My first meal of the day is at 12.00 or 1.00PM.

This is usually porridge or eggs. Which is what I like for breakfast but instead I have it for lunch. 3 days a week I have to have a proper meal at lunch time but then I'll have porridge for tea Happy

Then I will have dinner in the evening then I won't eat anything else after 8.00 or 9.00PM.

All snacks fruit nuts etc are eaten within the 8 hours.

I can actually manage a morning weights workout at the gym on no breakfast. I was a bit worried the first time I tried it but I was fine. Thought I might feel faint but I didn't.

Anyway, that works for me and helps keep my weight in check.

I've been like a pig at a trough since Christmas so I must get back to it.
By:
parispike
When: 03 Jan 14 20:47
Well I've taken the plunge today. Under my 600 (or is it 700) calories intake and I'm feeling somewhat virtuous.

Oh and bloody hungry too!

Sensible answers please. I'm about 6ft I inch and about 16 1/2 stone. How much can I reasonably expect to lose in say 2 months if I stick to to 5/2?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 03 Jan 14 22:42
if you go below 1000 calories you might end up with real stomach problems. the Gall bladder produces bile. this can crystallize and cause stones to form which can become life threatening. stay between 1000-2000 calories and you should lose weight. without the gall bladder danger.
By:
twizzle22
When: 04 Jan 14 08:02
Paris...600 cals for men ,500 for women.Stick with it.You will feel hungry to begin with but after a few weeks you will embrace the hunger(i know that sounds ridiculous but its true)In two months,providing you stick to the 600 cal rule)you will lose at least 25lbs but not just that, you will feel a whole lot better.You will control food not the other way around.Choose your two fast days when you're busy and you will find them a lot easier to deal with and when you feel hungry glug a pint of adams ale.Tomorrow you can eat and drink what you want..remember that..its the best mind thought to get you through the hunger plus you will feel a great sense of achievement.g/l
By:
Wallflower
When: 04 Jan 14 09:37
parispike, to add to, and to back-up twizzle22's comments...

..it is difficult the first few times (I'd say about 4-6 times, with decreasing difficulty), so its important to acknowledge that. My experience when I started this time last year was exactly as others before me predicted, it gets really easy, in fact after a couple of months it's like a "rest day" - you feel like you are giving your body a break.

I found my enjoyment of food and the taste of food increased, also very liberating 5 days a week, and contrary to what you think you don't gorge yourself those days, well maybe the first non-fast dayGrin.

It's not a "diet" in the generally understood sense, I think of it more as an eating pattern - just fits into the rhythm of my lifestyle.
By:
tambhoy5
When: 04 Jan 14 10:33
i was thinking of doing the one day fast.

can someone give me a link to the 2 day.can't seem to find it.  tia
By:
History Maker
When: 04 Jan 14 10:47
The Times magazine today (Saturday) has an article on this, advocating a 4:3 diet, with a whole load of ultra low calorie recipes and suggestions. I'm expecting it to say that it'll not only improve weight loss, but claim to prolong your life. I'll report back when I can be bothered to read it.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 05 Jan 14 22:24
high nutrient diet low in calories is not new. take a multi vitamin? with your grub. 1000-1500 calories a day. two litres of water.

In Daniel 1:15-16 The Bible says, "Well, at the end of the ten days, Daniel and his three friends looked healthier and better nourished than the youths who had been eating the food supplied by the king! So, after that the steward fed them only vegetables and water, without the rich foods and wines!"

Daniel had just proven how amazingly powerful a 10-day cleansing diet really was.
By:
stewarty b
When: 06 Jan 14 08:42
Haven't read all the thread, but seems worthwhile. Sadly, this link is gone...









     






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May still be on the iplayer but it's here if not:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfna7nV7WaM


Anybody know of an alternative?
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 06 Jan 14 18:08
Dr Michael Mosley, who was responsible for the promotion of the 5:2 diet, was on the Richard Bacon show on Radio5 this afternoon.

I didn't hear the programme, and can't listen to it now on the iplayer as my speakers are just about shot to bits - but he always has some very interesting things to say.

I believe today he was talking about high intensity training (short bursts of physical activity which are supposed to be as beneficial as long sessions of gym work, cycling etc).

For those interested in listening, you can hear him hear - scroll across to 20 minutes from the start of the programme:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03nppfx
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 06 Jan 14 18:09
*hear him here
By:
stewarty b
When: 07 Jan 14 10:36
Thanks for that link Tommy.
By:
ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo
When: 07 Jan 14 10:43
I believe today he was talking about high intensity training (short bursts of physical activity which are supposed to be as beneficial as long sessions of gym work, cycling etc)

..and nearly killed Andrew Marr
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 07 Jan 14 10:56
Here stewarty:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvdbtt_eat-fast-live-longer-hd_shortfilms
By:
stewarty b
When: 07 Jan 14 14:22
Thanks FlowerMtyh.
By:
stewarty b
When: 07 Jan 14 15:37
Amazing programme. Glad I watched it and hopefully I will follow some of the advice given due to the fact I was diagnosed with diabetes in August last year due to an unhealthy lifestyle. Too much beer, lack of exercise and a bad diet. I'm addressing these problems I may add, but every little bit of information helps. I might give the 5/2 diet a try after consulting my doctor.

Thanks again FlowerMtyh.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 29 Jan 14 17:40
There's an interesting Horizon programme on BBC2 tonight at 9pm (repeated tomorrow night at 11:20pm): Sugar v Fat

"What's worse for us: sugar or fat?

To answer the hottest question in nutrition, twin doctors Chris and Xand Van Tulleken go on month long high-fat and high-sugar diets. The effects on their bodies are shocking and surprising.

But they also discover that in the debate about fat and sugar, the real enemy might have been hiding in plain sight."
By:
stewarty b
When: 29 Jan 14 19:02
I marked that off in Saturday's TV pull-out Tommy. Has a really good write up. I'm recording it and watching 24 hours in A&E on 4 at 9pm.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 29 Jan 14 19:22
I'll probably watch the repeat tomorrow night at 11:20pm, Stewarty, as I'm listening to the match on Radio Stoke and watching Final Score on 301.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 29 Jan 14 21:01
There's an interesting Horizon programme on BBC2 tonight at 9pm (repeated tomorrow night at 11:20pm): Sugar v Fat

Starting now.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 30 Jan 14 23:22
I'm watching the repeat - on BBC2 now.
By:
bigmo
When: 31 Jan 14 06:25
Lost my mum in August due to liver cancer and the whole healthy lifestyle really went out of the window.My weight crept back up to 16st 9 lbs and I tried to start fasting again just before Christmas but found it really difficult and gave up.

With my holiday coming up in March I finally got motivated to get started again and have been fasting every other day for two weeks now and have managed to lose a stone.

It was really hard to start with again but it is getting easier and having about 37 days to lose what I can is the goal I need to keep going.

Agree with twizzle you do embrace the hunger and very slowly I'm starting to feel much better as the weight comes off.The hardest part is just starting.

Will update how I go on.
By:
tambhoy5
When: 01 Feb 14 13:02
i started the one day fast on 4th jan and have lost 12lb already.
on fast day i have 3 bowls of home made lentil soup = 750 cals.
on other days i'm probably between 1400-1700.
i always have a bowl of soup for breakfast and can honestly say i've never felt hungry.
anyone who is struggling should try it.
By:
Capt__F
When: 01 Feb 14 20:45
Bigmo

sorry to hear about your ma

best of luck
By:
Capt__F
When: 01 Feb 14 20:45
well done tam
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 01 Feb 14 23:15
Good luck Bigmo and Tambhoy.
By:
bigmo
When: 02 Feb 14 07:38
Thanks Capt and Tommy.
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