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By:
Capt__F
When: 05 Jun 13 11:05
had to see diabetic nurse yesterday

blood sugar results really good- pre diabetic level

got to do with the fasting still getting thru 20+ a week
By:
bigmo
When: 12 Jun 13 11:03
Not popped in for a while but wanted to mention that I'm still doing a 4-3 diet but am not so strict on the fasting days.I'm maintaining a weight of 14 stones and 3 pounds which I'm happy with.
By:
superam
When: 10 Jul 13 18:10
Good programme on tonight C5 8pm for all the folk on this thread.
By:
Wallflower
When: 10 Jul 13 18:40
thanks superam

haven't been on in a while.......must do an update soon.
By:
ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo
When: 11 Jul 13 18:05
Channel 5 11.10AM tomorrow, 12th July.  Fat,sick and nearly dead, worth watching.
By:
collywobble
When: 11 Jul 13 18:09
Been doing the 5:2 since the beginning of March. Down from 15st 3lb ish to 13st 5ish.

I'd like to get down to about 12 and a half, but the weight loss has been very slow over the last few weeks. Need to up the exercise a bit when the weather cools down!
By:
ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo
When: 12 Jul 13 11:15
Channel 5 now
By:
superam
When: 12 Jul 13 12:15
It was on Thurs night aswell Alpha
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 13 Jul 13 16:43
Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead - about the benefits of fasting and juicing - is on again on Ch5 today at 5pm.
By:
superam
When: 13 Jul 13 16:59
That's the full version, much better than the one been aired already, much more info.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 13 Jul 13 17:02
Ah yes superam, I see it's on for an extra 50 minutes tonight. I saw the first showing last week and thought it very interesting. This should be better.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 13 Jul 13 17:55
For those interested, 'Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead' is being shown on Ch5+1 at 6pm (freeview 44)
By:
ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo
When: 13 Jul 13 19:19
btw Phil is now a qualified nutritionist and set up his own health and nutrition company.
By:
Capt__F
When: 13 Jul 13 20:25
i bACK SEPT 6
By:
rayzor
When: 26 Jul 13 16:47
Been doing this 11 months now and am down 10kg on this time last year.  Crept under 80kg today for the first time for many years.

Keep the faith - those still doing it!
By:
lmfao
When: 26 Jul 13 17:41
so how does this work? I'm in big need of a sxxitload of weightloss and improvement to blood pressure and blood sugars?
do you just fast with nil cals for 2 chosen days per week- say a Monday and Wednesday and then just do your normal eating on other days?
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 08 Aug 13 21:03
The Men Who Made Us Thin - documentary on BBC2 now about the diet industry charletons.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 08 Aug 13 22:00
An excellent documentary (the first of 3 about the diet industry). Well worth catching up with on the iplayer.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 08 Aug 13 22:12
'The Men Who Made Us Fat' is being repeated on BBC2 at 11:20pm tonight.
Again; well worth watching.

Jacques Peretti explores how decisions (many being political) made 40 plus years ago have had such an impact on the health and weight of people today:

"Peretti travels to America to investigate the story of high-fructose corn syrup. The sweetener was championed in the US in the 1970s by Richard Nixon's agriculture secretary Earl Butz to make use of the excess corn grown by farmers. Cheaper and sweeter than sugar, it soon found its way into almost all processed foods and soft drinks. HFCS is not only sweeter than sugar, it also interferes with leptin, the hormone that controls appetite, so once you start eating or drinking it, you don't know when to stop.

Endocrinologist Robert Lustig was one of the first to recognise the dangers of HFCS but his findings were discredited at the time. Meanwhile a US Congress report blamed fat, not sugar, for the disturbing rise in cardio-vascular disease and the food industry responded with ranges of 'low fat', 'heart healthy' products in which the fat was removed - but the substitute was yet more sugar."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01jxzv8
By:
Crisp77
When: 08 Aug 13 22:16
I saw that Tommy...very interesting.

Lose weight then put it back on.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 08 Aug 13 22:19
Aye, Crisp: Lose weight then put it back on - ad nauseum - so you want to lose it again and are therefore forever lining the coffers of the diet industry charletons.
By:
Crisp77
When: 08 Aug 13 22:30
Easily done. I've shifted a bit of timber recently but how I long for the days of scotch eggs and crisps. Sad
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 08 Aug 13 22:33
Haha! I can well imagine!
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 08 Aug 13 23:24
The Men Who Made Us Fat - documentary on BBC2 now.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 08 Aug 13 23:58
This is such a good documentary.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 09 Aug 13 00:23
A 'must watch' - for anyone really - whether you want to lose weight or not.

Politicians causing so much more harm than good - as usual.
By:
footballjudge
When: 11 Aug 13 12:32
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By:
Coachbuster
When: 11 Aug 13 15:47
a word abouyt fasting ...
i'm no expert ,but was always told never fast on just water ...

was told to pick one item ...eg apples ,and eat them instead ,so maybe not a true fast but with fewer problems .

apparently fasting with water releases toxins too quickly into the system .


maybe worth checking out folks
By:
lmfao
When: 11 Aug 13 15:55
how bout a red wine diet?

say- 2 bottles a day and nothing else - except water

would that work?
By:
polybot
When: 11 Aug 13 16:00
Jacques Peretti explores how decisions (many being political) made 40 plus years ago have had such an impact on the health and weight of people today:

Actually the blame lies squarely with the scientific community, 98 percent of whom took the bribes, toed the lines, took the promotions and tenures, and more importantly, discredited any dissenters. Only changed tack when forced to 50 year late when the lie was no longer defensible.
By:
polybot
When: 11 Aug 13 16:02
Of course not all were corrupt, many are just incompetent.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 11 Aug 13 16:04
The Diet Delusion

.http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Diet-Delusion-Gary-Taubes/dp/0091924286/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376233320&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=the+diet+deluion

A very good book.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 15 Aug 13 21:10
Second part of 'The Men Who Made Us Thin' on BBC2 at the moment.
By:
sideshowbob
When: 15 Aug 13 21:54
that made us thin thing is interesting but massively slanted to fit their own agenda. simply saying that diets "dont work" is a ridiculous statement. a healthy diet is a diet and definitely does work. saying that most people put weight back on proves nothing, obviously most people put it back on, because most people that are trying to lose weight eat a load of ****. otherwise theyd all be thin in the first place.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 15 Aug 13 23:23
I wouldn't say he is saying 'diets don't work' rather just giving the history of the multi-billion pound industry it's become in the last 40 years or so.

The 2nd part repeat of his excellent series 'The Men Who Made Us Fat' is on BBC2 now.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 22 Aug 13 21:06
Third part of 'The Men Who Made Us Thin' on BBC2 now.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 22 Aug 13 21:45
Thanks for the reminder. I haven't been in long so missed the start.

I'll watch it on iplayer tomorrow.

Part 1 is on youtube

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiXicpOJRYY
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 29 Aug 13 21:00
Final part of 'The Men Who Made Us Thin' on BBC2 now.
By:
Capt__F
When: 11 Dec 13 17:16
anyone still fasting ?

i still do twice a week weight constant but no loss
By:
Wallflower
When: 12 Dec 13 14:14
Well Capt_F

I was thinking of resurrecting this thread as well.  I started last January at 14st 12lb, and on May 17th I was 13st 2lb...was very happy with it....would update this thread regularly.

Things went belly-up (no pun intendedGrin) for a while after May 18th - personal reasons, pretty nasty car crash so while I was not incapacitated I had restricted movements for 4-5 weeks, and with all the associated going-ons I stopped dieting as regularly and stopped walking (which I was doing in conjunction).

However, when back to normal I've continued. I'd fast at least once a week and 3/4 of the time twice. Haven't walked as regularly until the last few weeks where I'm back to walking 5 miles (1.5 hours) about 5 times a week.

Its the same as you - weight is constant at 13st - 13st 2lb. I'm happy with that for now as I eat and drink whatever I like 5 days a week.

For me,
-- I find the fast days easy, in fact I quite like them! I feel like I'm giving myself a rest, not "dieting". I do them no problem whatsoever
-- Appetite has certainly lessened - on normal days I enjoy my food a lot but dont/cannot eat as much as I used to!
-- Pleased that I'm eating all natural foods including plenty of natural fat (no low-fat this, low-fat that)
-- It's a success for me because its a normal part of my life-style, no real effort.
-- Want to lose another stone - will wait until January and do some serious walking, cut-down on bread a little bit and see where it brings me. Once reached I would expect fasting would maintain me at 12 stone or so
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