13  4 and 3/4
no change

wall - started 6/9/12
15 7

just before Christmas 13 10

so less than 6lb since then

might do 3 fasts a week to reach target 12 7

From my lowest weight of 11st 11lb (just before christmas) I'm afraid to report i now weigh 12st 8lbs.I still do the 5/2 but i have sadly let myself down on non fasting days by pigging out to a ridiculous degree. Got into the habit of drinking 2/3 pints five days a week and pretty sure that's why iv put on best part of a stone.Decided to knock the beer on the head for the foreseeable future and attempt to eat more normal on non fast days.I lulled myself into thinking i could eat and drink what i wanted in the quantity i wanted..lesson learnt.

I think it was Seal that sang Brother Sister It's the loneliness that's the killer.He was wrong because without doubt it's beer that's the killer. Well it is when you're doing this.If I didn't drink I would have achieved my target weight ages ago.I try to stick to two days a week drinking now but having said that if I drink today with friends coming round to watch the Masters (very likely)It will be 3 days on the trot and Monday being my drinking day will make it four days so not looking good.There is no time limit to do this twizzle and you've proved you can do it. We'll be rootin for you. Good luck.

Starting weight 15st 9lbs
Week 1 14st 12lbs
Week 2 14st 11 lbs
Week 5 14st 9lbs
Week 6 14st 5lbs
Week 7 14st 3lbs
Week 8 14st 2lbs
Week 9 14st 2lbs
Week 10 14st 5lbs
Week 11 14st 2lbs
Week 12 13st 12lbs
Week 13 13st 13lbs
Week 14 13st 13lbs
Week 15 13st 10lbs
Week 16 13st 11lbs
Week 17 13st 12lbs
Week 18 13st 12lbs
Week 19 13st 10lbs
Week 21 13st 11lbs
Week 22 13st 10lbs
Week 25 13st 11lbs 1lb rise

Haven't posted for a couple of weeks but have kept to the regime. I also drink quite heavily when I go out and I also tend to eat a lot on non-fast days. However, the fasting seems to be keeping me at a weight I want to be, that combined with fairly intense training sessions/rugby games at least 3 times per week. Long stag weekend in Tenerife coming up so I'm certain to rise next week but not going to get hung up about it.

BAD WEEK for F
13 7 and 1/4

need to get back on track  put on 2.5 +

how many hours do you call a fast guys? and do you remain entirely calorie free during?

you would be better doing 16 to 18 hours fast with zero calories then do a fasted work out and then eat a good nutritious meal to complete satiety, once you get into 24+ hours you can start catabolism which is a state where your body uses muscle tissue for energy and this can lower your lean mass

here's a few links that might interest you

www.leangains.com
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/welcome-to-marks-daily-apple/#axzz2R6AnzUMw
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.co.uk/
http://www.archevore.com/
http://evolvinghealthscience.blogspot.co.uk/

I was talking to the guys sabotaging themselves with takeaways and beer

Sabotaging! Steady on!

Not so much an issue with diet and/or fasting options - pretty knowledgeable about this now, and happy enough with I am doing (standard 5:2). May try the 15-16hr fast, as suggested - but if I don't think it is maintainable I won't do it regularly, maybe occasionally, open to trying it.

The issue is discipline - but again, not a real issue, had a 3 night / 3 take-away run last week. Bit of complacency on my part. But I've only had one take-away before that since Jan 7th. Counting nights 'on the beer" since Jan 7th - 19 - that's not bad in my world.

Just need to maintain discipline and keep doing what I've been doing. No intention of giving-up pub/beer - brings too much joy to my world if the truth be known.

Going out in what will be 20 nights out of 110 would seem quite reasonable to me.

Would you hold any value to the positive psychological effects it has - enjoyment, social interaction - or do you believe (if they do exist) then they out-weighed by the negative effects of alcohol?

Interesting d13phe, - let's say end of April - which is 1/3 of the year, you would have been out twice in that time....would you have been at home most of those nights or do you go out for other social functions?

Went out last night - had a call from ex-colleague who lives nearby......on the spur. 4 pints.

We'll have to differ about it being excessive but from another angle staying in 90 nights out of 110 is the pinnacle of discipline for me!

For my own part,I like going to the theatre but don't go often enough (maybe 5-6 times a year), cinema occasionally, every other social function involves drink - I can, but dislike, going out without having a drink (I don't mean getting drunk). Could not live without having a drink/meeting people, but could live without the associated rubbish food - 4 times in 20 nights out is a great improvement on my part in this regard......hope to cut it out altogether. Before 5:2 that would be more like 14-15 times out of the 20 nights.

Weekly Update

Weekly Update

Starting weight  - January 7th – 14st 12lb
Initial (6 days) - January 12th - 14st 6lb
Week 1 (On the day) January 16th – 14st 6lb
Week 2 (Average for preceding 7 days, 17th-23rd) January 23rd – 14st 6.0lb (Max: 14st 7lb - Min: 14st 4lb)
Week 3 (Average for preceding 7 days, 24th-30th) January 30th - 14st 4.5lb (Max: 14st 6lb - Min: 14st 2lb)
Week 4 (Average for preceding 7 days, 31st-6th)  February 6th - 13st 13.4lb Max: 14st 2lb - Min 13st 12lb)
Week 5 (Average for preceding 7 days, 7th-13th) February 13th - 13st 12.8lb (Max: 14st 0lb - Min 13st 12lb)
Week 6 (Average for preceding 7 days, 14th-20th)February 20th - 13st  9.9lb (Max: 13st 12lb - Min 13st 8lb)
Week 7 (Average for preceding 7 days, 21st-27th)February 27th - 13st  8.4lb (Max: 13st 9lb  - Min 13st 7lb)
Week 8 (Average for preceding 7 days,  28th-6th)    March 6th - 13st  7.9lb (Max: 13st 9lb  - Min 13st 6lb)
Week 9 (Average for preceding 7 days,  7th-13th)   March 13th - 13st  6.0lb (Max: 13st 7lb  - Min 13st 5lb)
Week 10(Average for preceding 7 days,  14th-20th)  March 20th - 13st  5.9lb (Max: 13st 7lb  - Min 13st 5lb)
Week 11(Average for preceding 7 days,  21st-27th)  March 27th - 13st  4.7lb (Max: 13st 6lb  - Min 13st 4lb)
Week 12(Average for preceding 7 days,  28th-3rd)   April 3rd  - 13st  3.7lb (Max: 13st 5lb  - Min 13st 2lb)
Week 13(Average for preceding 7 days,   4th-10th)  April 10th - 13st  4.3lb (Max: 13st 5lb  - Min 13st 4lb)
Week 14(Average for preceding 7 days,   11th-17th) April 17th - 13st  3.0lb (Max: 13st 4lb  - Min 13st 2lb)
Week 15(Average for preceding 7 days,   18th-24th) April 24th - 13st  4.6lb (Max: 13st 6lb  - Min 13st 3lb)

Well no surprise - up 1.5lb on the average for the week (though actually 13st 3lb this morning). No overall weight loss for last 4 weeks I've noticed. This is unlikely to change over next couple of weeks - bit of a holiday lined-up. Still happy enough, very relaxed about it overall, and as I said, I'm in this for the long haul and couldn't imagine not having at least one fast day per week.

Don't want to get into targets (unless they are easy, as per Betfair strategy) but I think I'd like to be 13 stone by end of May, should be achievable

Starting weight 15st 9lbs
Week 1 14st 12lbs
Week 2 14st 11 lbs
Week 5 14st 9lbs
Week 6 14st 5lbs
Week 7 14st 3lbs
Week 8 14st 2lbs
Week 9 14st 2lbs
Week 10 14st 5lbs
Week 11 14st 2lbs
Week 12 13st 12lbs
Week 13 13st 13lbs
Week 14 13st 13lbs
Week 15 13st 10lbs
Week 16 13st 11lbs
Week 17 13st 12lbs
Week 18 13st 12lbs
Week 19 13st 10lbs
Week 21 13st 11lbs
Week 22 13st 10lbs
Week 25 13st 11lbs
Week 27 13st 11lbs no change

4 massive all day sessions in Tenerife but didn't really eat much. Died for a few days afterwards and got on track again this week with the fasting. Happy with the weight and would have to try harder on the non fasting days if I wanted to go lower.

well done the man and rayzor

13 4 and 1/2

Game On

Starting weight 15st 9lbs
Week 1 14st 12lbs
Week 2 14st 11 lbs
Week 5 14st 9lbs
Week 6 14st 5lbs
Week 7 14st 3lbs
Week 8 14st 2lbs
Week 9 14st 2lbs
Week 10 14st 5lbs
Week 11 14st 2lbs
Week 12 13st 12lbs
Week 13 13st 13lbs
Week 14 13st 13lbs
Week 15 13st 10lbs
Week 16 13st 11lbs
Week 17 13st 12lbs
Week 18 13st 12lbs
Week 19 13st 10lbs
Week 21 13st 11lbs
Week 22 13st 10lbs
Week 25 13st 11lbs
Week 27 13st 11lbs
Week 29 13st 10lbs lost 1lb

I've obviously found my weight level with no real progress for weeks. More than happy though, 2 fast days, train hard, play rugby and have a blow out after the match. Gone from a slow prop to loose forward/half back which was always my position in my younger days. Giving 20 years away to the majority at training and most can't keep up.

13 4 and 3/4  .25 gain

hello all.
quick update.
this thread has been a positive read for me.
it helped understand weight and more importantly health, it also highlighted the pitfalls and cyclic behavior.
weight wise im 199lbs which is no massive loss
but i feel far more importantly my diet is slowing changing.
gone are the frys every day and i know i could never ever do that again!!what was i thinking:)
ill still have one a month or if i feel like it staying at a hotel or whatever but i prefer the porridge and fruit.
the slow release of the carbs keep me full and cut out the mid morning sausage rolls and **** like that.
havent really got round to changing much else that i can claim is long term but i have started to enjoy fruit as snacks again and try to avoid processed foods.
sweets, crisps and the odd bar are what i need to cut out but im happy that positive changes are being made.
one factor that is probably the most destructive in my health is the drinking, i was able to read through some of my posts and notice it was the binge drinking that was causing me to put my health second.
i would gain calories by consumption then when hungover i would crave and eat crap, i also had to factor in the other detrimental effects of the alcohol and lifestyle and i decided to stop drinking to evaluate the benefits.
it hasnt been easy but 7 weeks today and the results are staggering!
intense fatigue was one the hardest things to get over alongside the constant brain niggling excuses to chill out and have a beer :)
but that has eased considerably and its not as hard and now im toying with the idea of keeping this up as long as possible.
i didnt have a chronic drink problem but after 7 weeks of abstaining and a fresher outlook i can admit that the alcohol was damaging my wellbeing in more ways than im prepared to admit at present.
i hope when or if i return to drinking that it will be much more sociable and healthy.
anyways it has made a massive difference in the health and i would like to pass that on , i feel the weight loss if i want it will be much easier and inevitable if i keep my current lifestyle.
it has been 100% this thread that got me thinking about my diet and health and it kept me motivated reading the posts of every single person that contributed.

so keep posting for others who may drop by and dont let the thread die :)

well done steviep