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Tia Sharp the 12 year old girl missing from South London.

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By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 10 Aug 12 15:29
Which part of pre planned search do you not understand HonkeyConfused
By:
Stow_judge
When: 10 Aug 12 15:30
No, no child abduction link. I just thought the suggestion that everyone had a shady past was a lame excuse for his own. I would think that the majority of people do not have a shady past.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 10 Aug 12 15:31
On council estates in the Croydon area the percentage of criminal to non criminals will be higher than leafy town.
By:
A_T
When: 10 Aug 12 15:32
Is it right to say that a period of 24 hours went by when the only person who says they saw Tia was the step-g'father?
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 15:32
Gabrial, they wouldn't have 20 forensics officers there just at the request of the family. The sheer number of people working there suggests the police think this is quite important.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 10 Aug 12 15:35
Honkey

You plank.

There was not 20 forensic officers there. The majority of the police are helping cordon it off while the small team of FO`s get on with it.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 15:38
Uh???  A huge group of police are there just to cordon it off????   If it's as routine as you say, it would take one person (two max) to cordon the house. It's not exactly a mansion set in several acres of ground, is it?!    I imagine the time of the other police would be better spent searching fields, following up reports of sightings etc.
By:
Slicer
When: 10 Aug 12 15:44
Don't get uppity AG!
I stated known to the victim. That includes EVERYONE KNOWN TO THE VICTIM!

If the police are cordoning off a family house and plan a 2 day forensic inspection, the odds are they are suspicious of something there. Otherwise they would be placing manpower looking elsewhere.

Lets put it this way, if it was a horse race and one studied the form I wonder what the betting would be!
By:
alun2005
When: 10 Aug 12 15:46
Oh Christ, ex Sweeney boss John O'Conner has escaped from his purpose-built Sky Broom Cupboard to give us his twopence worth. Always a great moment during any of these foul broadcasts.
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 10 Aug 12 15:56
***PAST TENSE ALERT***


Stuart Hazell: "I’d never think of it, I loved her to bits, like she is my own daughter."
By:
desperatemunter
When: 10 Aug 12 15:57
Angry Monkey spot on - you know about 'Statement Analysis' don't you fella?
shame it's not more widely understood
By:
pixie
When: 10 Aug 12 15:59
Hmmmmmm, sounds dodgy as feck!
By:
desperatemunter
When: 10 Aug 12 15:59
I want to know why the mother has refused to show her face. One (unpictured) comment to the Daily Mirror is the sum-total - as far as I can find - of her efforts.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 16:01
Well she's not obliged to appear on television, is she?  It's not as though there aren't plenty of family members getting coverage already.
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 10 Aug 12 16:03
Yes DM, the past tense use can be very telling, especially under pressure when their mind is thinking along different lines to everyone else (as they have other info/events playing out) and they make a slip-up.

It is very hard to use the past tense accidentally.
By:
desperatemunter
When: 10 Aug 12 16:05
theres a website for statement analysis - highlights the 'tells' of guilty people protesting their innocence and how they cannot help but reveal themselves by their choice of language
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 16:07
The people on the David Icke site were onto this stuff days ago..  They're a crazed bunch, but they seem to know their tells and sniffer dogs!  (And a few of them seem to know about tarot cards as well...  Very peculiar.)
By:
desperatemunter
When: 10 Aug 12 16:07
and, the mother should be upfront, leading the charge to find her kid - cannot think of anything that would justify her non-appearance.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 16:08
Maybe she's too distressed???
By:
Slicer
When: 10 Aug 12 16:16
Any loving mother who might be too distressed would try to ovecome that state if she thought it would help locate the child! We have seen mothers weeping while making televised appeals. Of course people are not all the same, but nevertheless, it does the family no favours!
By:
A_T
When: 10 Aug 12 16:18
In these cases distressed mothers are usually used to make an appeal to a potential abductor - in an attempt to reach any shred of humanity that person might possess.
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 10 Aug 12 16:19
it seems the girl spent most of the time at the grandmother's house. this would indicate that she had a bad relationship with her mother. They might think an appeal from her would be counter productive as the girl would revel in hurting her mother
By:
Slicer
When: 10 Aug 12 16:21
Certainly possible. It might also be interesting to find out exactly why she spent so much time with gran rather than her mother!
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 16:25
That's most certainly a good question Slicer.
By:
dr . atkins
When: 10 Aug 12 16:30
as i keep saying always look close to home first
By:
TELL DEL
When: 10 Aug 12 16:32
Police have now sealed off an area around her grandmother's home, where she was last seen a week ago.
More than 20 forensic officers arrived at the house.
The grandmother left the house with police officers.
Looks like they have something more positive now.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 16:36
Tell Dell, they took away some bedding last night and did tests on it. Today's move may well be connected to that. Certainly they seem to have uncovered something which has caused them to concentrate on checking out the property as thoroughly as possible.
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 10 Aug 12 16:40
Are they thinking Stuart's DNA/seamen may be in the bedding then?

I don't like speculation, but just wondered if that is what you lot are alluding to?
By:
alun2005
When: 10 Aug 12 16:41
Are they thinking Stuart's DNA/seamen may be in the bedding then?

Actually I think the Navy have alternative accommodation arrangements.
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 10 Aug 12 16:43
We know it is a pretty messed up/rough family already... but where was the grandmother stopping out to?

"He was alone in the house with the schoolgirl from Thursday night until just after midday on Friday when she left to buy flip-flops from Croydon’s Whitgift shopping centre."
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 10 Aug 12 16:44
Nice light-heartedness alun Happy
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 16:44
Hard to tell Angry Monkey. Little other than rumours at the moment. Perhaps it was DNA or semen. Perhaps it was blood?   We also don't know what the 'results' of the dog was the other night. He was seen coming out of the house with a rubber ring in his mouth, supposedly his toy - this would usually be given to the dog only if he had 'found something'. Did he find something? And if so, what did he find?

We just don't know at the moment. The only thing that does seem sure is that the police have discovered something that has made them throw as many resources into examining the house as possible. The bedding is rumoured to have been the big clue, but that's only a rumour.
By:
alun2005
When: 10 Aug 12 16:47
Sorry Monkey, but the seamen/semen spelling is a time-honoured and irresistible favourite Chit Chat excuse for a sarky comeback !!

regards etc
By:
count-crusty
When: 10 Aug 12 16:49
SAD END...
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 16:49
And Alun's never one to turn down a sarky comeback!!
By:
Angry Monkey
When: 10 Aug 12 16:50
Indeed, I must protest my literacy skills and put it down to a typo, you understand.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 16:51
They've found a body apparently. Very sad.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 16:52
Hazell's on the run as well.  All too predictable sadly.
By:
elisjohn
When: 10 Aug 12 16:53
stusrt hazell gone missing,     unbelievable   , what our police doing
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 10 Aug 12 16:54
You'd think they'd have been watching him like a hawk, wouldn't you..
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