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daz550 30 Jan 12 22:51
facts 90% of the population are scum acording to you its all the same old childish drone 90% do not read trash like the Daily Mail hth.If you mean by childish drone, a sense of outrage at the lack of dignity,respect and decorum being shown on this thread(mainly by you), then I am guilty. What's your excuse ? |
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facts i heard you say this before and low life scum rubber neckers blah blah you are one sour bitter twisted individual hiding behind your keyboard with your same old tired statements overe and over nothing constructive to say ever.
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Exactly right, AG.
He isn't there to titillate the public, he can only try to determine the cause and circumstances of the death. |
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oh - and your constant contributions to your dire thread is being constructuive is it ? God help us !!
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You cannot generalise
Christ on a bike facts, talk about turning it on it's head... My whole point was that you were generalising. You've got form. |
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Angel
I take you point about them been private. But the inquest is public so i would have thought she was obliged to give these detail in the statement given her husband had commited suicide. |
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I do not generalise.
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What i am trying to say is that the coroner or the police need to know what was said. She has said he talked about suicide a few days before and they had an argument. It makes no difference to proceedings what the dialogue was. Its personal and Louise will keep it that way. And why shouldn`t she?
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YOU ARE STRANGELY staying on here facts for some reason why waste your time if you think this whole thing is pointless if its not just to say......ah its all wrong you just scum rubber neckers just wasting yours and everyones time
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*What i am trying to say is that the coroner or the police do not need to know what was said
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Facts 30 Jan 12 22:58
I do not generalise. Blimey, you kept that quiet. |
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The dialogue does not need to be public.
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daz500
to try and get people to see what a scumbag you are. |
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AG is correct
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Ayedo
25 Jan 12 23:27 Joined: 17 Feb 03 | Topic/replies: 284 | Blogger: Ayedo's blog I'll tell you why So many people on the football forum told you, you were a sad fcuker, that you deided to bring it over here. You seem to be getting off, on the whole thing. I'll say no more. ^THIS^ weirdo |
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Angel
Agree maybe you have the a good point. but the argument would have the reason for the suicide possibly therefore is she trying to hide something? |
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'......therefore is she trying to hide something?.....
ffs ! Have you no shame ??? |
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will be on the front page of the daily mirror and daily star tomorrow
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Daz
Thousands of women and men have arguments with their partners who then go on and commit suicide. The guilt will be carried for a long time. Nothing will bring that person back. As long as the police/coroner rule out foul play, its end of case. The family carry on grieving and try and get their lives back on track. Dialogue is irrelevant because no matter what words where said, it makes no difference to the case. |
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Angel
I agree to a large point but i have seen other inquest verdicts and they have given much more specific information ie it would be important to say what the argument was about because circumstances leading to his death would be dependant on the nature of the argument no mention of this. Also why the threat to commit suicide. All the main stream media are saying the true reasons for his death remain largely unanswered |
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is this the official chit chat detective agency thread? Odd that both were out the house and kids were inside?
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the story was she didnt have her keys andshe didnt want to wake the kids up
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sleeping in car on the drive wouldnt have been my first choice, would have at least put it in garage
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Not only is rubbernecking not disreputable, it is in fact highly advisable. Taking an interest in how people come to harm is a vital survival strategy and helps you to minimize the likelihood that you too will come to harm in the same way.
So, I'm driving along and I pass a grisly looking RTA - I can ignore it and carry on my merry way, unchanged in my habits and behaviours. I prefer to slow down and take in as much information about what may have happened as possible - (not withstanding the requirement to be safe with respect to other road-users by not slowing dangerously) - so I can critically assess, and adjust if necessary, my own driving. |
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Daz
If Gary had been upset 4 days before his death because he felt his marriage was on the rocks, then the privacy and sensitivity of the dialogue will be respected. The police had no need to overly pressurise Louise into all the dialogue, because they have seen unstable relationships a million times over. If there was foul play then they would feel the need for every detail. This is not a murder inquiry. |
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Daz
Yes the mainstream media are saying the true reasons for his death remain largely unanswered because Gary never left a note. They are not saying there is a conspiracy but just that the only witness to the death was the victim. |
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Agree angel
ths is one way of looking at it so what you say his she didnt tell them everything rightly or wrongly fair play to her she is probably blaming herself and feeling all sorts of emotions right now. Personally I think there has been some clever work some were along the line either she has been advised not to say certain things or they have choose to leave certain things out of the inquest findings...rightly or wrongly |
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Indeed.
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Yes. Nothing will bring him back. Louise feels guilty and is hurting and the boys need protecting from it all. The dialogue will not help the healing process. When couples argue, sometimes they say things they dont really mean. It would benefit nobody making it public. I am sure that she has been advised on what to reveal and what not to. It makes no difference but the gutter press will be miffed.
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Angel
If you look through all the questions mrs speed was asked at the inquest some were personal yet he failed to ask the why the reason for the argument strange i feel. For example he asked about their movement the day before and if there were strains on the relationship I find his mothers comments interesting not sure what they mean “Looking back, Gary was always a glass-half-empty person, certainly no optimist,” her statement added. Read More http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2012/01/30/gary-speed-talked-about-taking-his-own-life-days-before-death-inquest-hears-91466-30228881/2/#ixzz1kzRSI8fm |
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His mother knew him best, she was basically saying Gary was not a happy go lucky type. Often self critical etc.
Louise said the argument was something about nothing. Which means a trivial start to the argument which happens often in relationships. Again its irrelevant Daz. |
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angel
but she slept in the car and says sheneeded to cool off sounds like a blazing row to me |
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Me and my wife have in the past had arguments over something daft like her moving my mobile phone charger, then she cant find it, 10 mins later im in my car off to mates because the argument has got messy.
It is irrelevant what the argument was about. Perhaps she was having a go at him for jumping in the pool or the way he was talking to her. It matters not a jot. |
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angel
but if the argument was irrelevant why not just say to avoid the speculation which will arise |
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Sometimes you cant remember what starts an argument, it can develop without either really knowing what started it, generally a misplaced word can start it. Communication breakdown is the biggest reason for marriage problems. Louise said`it was something over nothing`. Just accept that Daz. That is marriage for you.
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Angel
we will have to see what develops here be interested to know were the rags will take this one if they will be prepared to let sleeping dogs lye so to speak maybe i just have a suspisious nature but something we are just not been told here for my money. |
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Even the 'rags' aren't that tragic, thankfully.
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angel not only this mr inquest man insults us by saying his death could be accidental
Did his mobile phone also type the words I AM THINKING OF SUICIDE when it was in his pocket. I know mine rings people when its not switched off properly but text a suicide threat mmmmm....long shot maybe toO much of a coinsidance that he sends a suicide threat 4 days before......then an argument occurs the day before.....then he accidentaly walks into a noose neck first .......come on mr inquest man you do the math |
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pretty sure he hinted that lord lucan was involved too
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she is sleeping in the car he falls asleep in the garage with a cable round his neck ...
how can anyone fall asleep and hang without waking up ,he was barely over the drink drive limit ,so drink not a factor regarding falling asleep , was he standing on a stool ? even then with your hands free you would not hang imo .Something very strange about this case ,Alan Shearer said he cant understand it all ,he is not the only one .... |