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By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 20:51
I dont care what you think who give me abuse just for being interest in this story shouldnt really be on this forum other than to cause an argument

You think you hold the moral high ground but I believe you are so wrong and you comments are repetative boring drivell i am trying to move the thing forward and you are constantly trying to fetch it down into the gutter
By:
rob_dylan
When: 30 Jan 12 20:52
You said that he who is without sin let him cast the first stone.  But you,re always passing judgement on others.  You're a hypocrite.
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 20:53
AT

so you think the witnesses are holding the full truth back?
By:
MrBaboon
When: 30 Jan 12 20:59
Daz is todays inquest the end of the matter re police and legal point?

Maybe for the family and decency there is a cover up which they have deemed not in the publics interest ?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 30 Jan 12 21:00
Sad truth is that lots of men commit suicide because of their wives. Jealousy etc can destroy a mans mind.
By:
A_T
When: 30 Jan 12 21:01
daz550 I think one witness probably was though the motive for doing so might be unselfish.
By:
Facts
When: 30 Jan 12 21:02
i am trying to move the thing forward and you are constantly trying to fetch it down into the gutter


I think you own the gutter daz tbh
By:
BonVivvy
When: 30 Jan 12 21:04
is mr baboon daz talking to himself??
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 21:08
AT

can you be more specific which witness do you think wasnt telling the truth.

also surely the inquest would say what gary and his wife were arguing about which it didnt
By:
TELL DEL
When: 30 Jan 12 21:14
Angel Gabriel

"Sad truth is that lots of men commit suicide because of their wives. Jealousy etc can destroy a mans mind."

I suppose we've all got a breaking point. But find it hard to imagine
the state of mind a person must get in when you think there is no other way.
And the ones who really suffer are the ones left behind who have to live with it.
By:
A_T
When: 30 Jan 12 21:23
daz550 Mrs Speed said she couldn't remeber what the argument was about.
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 21:25
really is this the case AT BUT SHE SLEPT IN THE CAR ALL NIGHT surely this is not normal.
By:
anubis7
When: 30 Jan 12 21:38
She slept in the car because she forgot to take her door keys with her when she went for a drive. She didn't knock on the front door because she didn't want to wake the children up.
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 21:41
strange carry off
By:
hugh jardon
When: 30 Jan 12 21:44
The bit about her saying she drove away and then came back realising she had forgot her keys.She said didnt want to wake her boys up by knocking on the door, so slept in the car (in late November) now I've been pissed before and tried to sleep in the car and its a nightmare (freezing)
But she was happy to get up and go around to the back of the garage at 6am. Was she going to get in the house  that way, or was she happy waking her boys up at 6am on a sunday morning (remember she wasnt happy to wake them the night before !! And if she was going to get in that way, why the F..k didnt she do that at 2am ???

My feeling is she never slept in car, and drove off somewhere to meet someone else and returned at 6am. And this may be the reason for the argument with Gary.
By the way, if He did leave suicide note explaining why he commited suicide, The wife would have discovered it and read it (I beleive she discovered him alone). If it painted her as the reason I'm not surprissed no letter has appeared-- Are You ???

Maybe I've watched too many episodes of Columbo.....
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 21:54
not sure hugh... they did argue though it says in the inquest this is the case so what that argument was about has been kept secret could this not give us the reasons for his suicide and end all this speculation.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 30 Jan 12 22:03
My thinking is that he sat there on the stares, in his wet clothes in his garage with the TV aerial cable wrapped around his neck, shivering in his garage and passed out, and passed away.
By:
A_T
When: 30 Jan 12 22:04
I've seen it said that basically the press have left a lot out of what was said at the inquest.

With Leveson going on the press are skating on thin ice at the moment and the last thing they want is to be slammed for reporting upsetting personal details.
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 22:08
AT

you are almost certainly right. thats why it remains an untold story
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 30 Jan 12 22:09
What Gary Speed did, is similar to what happens just every day in the world. People do things which end their lives. People just think its mysterious because he was famous.
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 22:12
agree angel but even so alot of time you here rumours of the people who knew them some may be right some just false rumour.

Seems strange that you would text your wife to mention that you were contemplating suicide although as discussed at the time, I guess logic and straight thinking aren't top of the agenda for someone in that position. To go from that to 'exchanging a few words' and 'may still be an accident', still more questions than answers
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 22:15
I suggested at the time that it was a relationship issue. These issues are always terribly complex deeply personal but because your'e in the public eye played out in court in other a divorce or sadly in Gary Speed's case the coroner's court.

Human nature I would suggest she blames herself for what happened but never thought he would actually do what he did. The only good that can come out of this is through learning and ultimately helping all of us faced with these terribly emotive issues if and when they arise but to Gary's family sadly it wont bring him back.
By:
orioles
When: 30 Jan 12 22:16
I've seen it said that basically the press have left a lot out of what was said at the inquest.

Marvellous Laugh

Have we ruled out the illuminati, aliens, MI5 or giant lizards?

C'mon boys, if you make the Ribena a bit stronger, you can get this rolling and really piss all over the guy's memory and his family's grief.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 30 Jan 12 22:20
Did you find it unusual orioles?
By:
rob_dylan
When: 30 Jan 12 22:23
I've oft wondered if giggs, misdemeanors would've been forgotten if he'd,ve topped himself under mysterious circumstances.
By:
Facts
When: 30 Jan 12 22:26
WALOFS
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 30 Jan 12 22:28
No need for the laughing head Orioles! you are not at the comedy store in your gimp suit again are you?
By:
Facts
When: 30 Jan 12 22:30
Orioles is right. He's being sardonic. You lot are scum
By:
orioles
When: 30 Jan 12 22:32
No, not particularly, RD.

You have to understand the role of the coroner and the verdicts available to him.

I can see why people think it's an unsatisfactory explanation, but let's be honest, this thread is just rubber-necking. It's no more or less repugnant than your average thread, but there's no genuine public interest element here, it's just staring at the crash.

Pretending otherwise is dishonest.
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 22:34
will be front page story in the newspaper tommorow are the people who but newspapers scum
By:
A_T
When: 30 Jan 12 22:39
there's no genuine public interest element here

We don't know that because the reasons for his hanging himself have seemingly not been determined.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 30 Jan 12 22:41
It seemed unusual to me.  Cant argue with the rubber necking thing, just very odd, hard not to be curious.

Facts is just a bare faced hypocrite.
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 22:42
will be front page headlines tommoz the sale of newspapers will rise for this and the daily mail has already eluded to the fact there is more to come out in this still untold story on their website
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 30 Jan 12 22:42
Im not sure what more the coroner could have said on the case. No note, no e mail etc.

The coroner said "the evidence does not sufficiently determine whether this was intentional or accidental".
By:
Facts
When: 30 Jan 12 22:48
daz550     30 Jan 12 22:42 
will be front page headlines tommoz the sale of newspapers will rise for this and the daily mail has already eluded to the fact there is more to come out in this still untold story on their website



...well there's a fcking surprise -from the scum of a rag
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 22:49
angel

To me 2 question remain unanswered

1) why the threats to commit suicide

2)what was the argument about she did leave to cool down she said and returned at 6am something big must have gone on why wasnt this revealed at the inquest
By:
Facts
When: 30 Jan 12 22:50
rob_dylan

One can have an opinion about one subject - and a different one about another. You cannot generalise !
Rubber necking is the truth. You don't need to be curious - look what it did to the cat!
By:
daz550
When: 30 Jan 12 22:51
facts

90% of the population are scum acording to you its all the same old childish drone
By:
Facts
When: 30 Jan 12 22:51
daz500

Stop dancing on this poor guys grave. Let it go ffs !!
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 30 Jan 12 22:53
Daz

Those questions are personal between Gary and his wife. Are you married?
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