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Vincent Tabak Trial In Running
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Prosecutor: You moved her clothes, Vincent Tabak. Pulled up her top.
Tabak: Not intentionally. Prosecutor: Is that what made her scream? Tabak: No that was not what made her scream. Prosecutor: This was a sexual attack by you. Tabak: Definitely not true. Prosecutor: And you wanted to kill her. Tabak: Definitely not true. The trial at Bristol crown court was adjourned until Monday. |
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Where is Bernard ?
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The defence case in the trial of Vincent Tabak has closed with a neighbour telling the jury that he did not hear anything unusual on the night of Joanna Yeates's death.
Other witnesses have reported hearing screams at around the time Yeates was killed at her flat in Bristol but the retired teacher Geoffrey Hardyman, who lives in the same building, said he heard nothing. After his statement was read to the jury, William Clegg QC, for Tabak, said the defence case was concluded. The jury was told it would hear closing speeches from the prosecution and defence Tomorrow . |
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I think he was a plank and panicked. She was high on a pint and a half of cider (which may be quite a lot for a smaller woman) and made a racket than panicked him. He crapped himself and smothered her mouth and neck. He should have reacted differently of course, but I don't think it's murder. Could be wrong of course, just guessing on the basis of a few clips here and there, so not particularly convinced of that opinion before everyone gets excited.
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Prosecution barrister Nigel Lickley QC said Tabak researched average sentence rates for both murder and manslaughter before looking up the Wikipedia definitions for both.
On January 11 he was said to have Googled "definition sexual conduct" and then "definition of sexual assault". He also clicked onto a website titled "Sexual offences explained". Tabak denies any sexual intent, why then would he do these searches if nothing sexual . Should be Murder . |
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Because the law is an ass and it's worth checking whether you can be done for a sexual crime just because you tried to kiss her first? All the Wiki'ing is not unusual for a smart foreigner.
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Mr Lickley prosecution QC in summing up today -Strangulation was not something done on the 'spur of the moment'.
'There is no use of a weapon, a knife or a blunt instrument but a hand,' he told jurors. 'It brings a unique connection between the attacker and the victim. The two people are joined in the moments leading up to death. 'The hand of the attacker feeling the neck of his victim. 'The other hand smothering her mouth - the distance perhaps the length of Vincent Tabak's arm. 'It is a method of killing that takes time and it isn't done in the spur of the moment. 'It is not instantaneous, unlike the insertion of a knife. 'It is protracted and it is persistent and it requires quite deliberate acts and a determination to carry on and carry on despite the reaction and the actions of the victim. 'It involves a deliberate choice to rule out the decision to stop and release the grip. 'You carry on until the person presumably in your hand, after the person has stopped, you let them fall to the ground.' Together: Joanna Yeates and her boyfriend Greg Reardon. Miss Yeates' father David and Mr Reardon watched intently earlier in the trial as Tabak told a jury he had not been sexually aroused as he killed her Mr Lickley described Tabak as 'shrewd' and accused him of making 'careful decisions'. 'Vincent Tabak is very clever, he is intelligent,' he told jurors. 'There is another side to Vincent Tabak. He is dishonest, deceitful and he is a liar.' The trial was adjourned until tomorrow when the judge, Mr Justice Field, will begin summing up. |
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'shrewd'
was mentioned on news as olde english word 'shrewd' and above in quotation marks. is it really not used that much? |
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Jury to start considering verdict by lunchtime. Final day perhaps?
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"Manslaughter is a serious crime but murder is a much graver crime," says judge.
Judge to jury: If you're not sure Tabak intended to kill or at least do her really serious bodily harm he is not guilty of murder |
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brendan, I would say that 'shrewd' is a word very much still in daily use.
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deliberately avoided answering more than 80 questions in the witness box, dodged so many questions with "can't remember" |
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Trial having 15 minute break.
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http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16096446
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Judge to jury: "It's for you to decide what evidence you accept.
You don't have to accept evidence of expert witnesses just because they are experts." |
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Judge: Defendant admits telling a series of calculated lies to police after the killing
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are you getting a sexual kick from typing all this **** dan.....
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an odd question yorky
the case filled the newspapers as it unfolded, i am still interested in what happens i hope they find him guilty of the more serious charge |
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odd? some truly sick **** posting on this thread
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No YORKY obviously you do not know me or you would retract that question .
I am interested in this newsworthy trial and hoping Tabak does not manage to achieve a Manslaughter verdict |
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You have made a couple of comments on this thread, why bother viewing if it offends you so much .
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Yet you think it is ok to make sick "jokes" about the case? Like I said some sick k unts on this thread.
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But i am already swimming around in the sh1t, youve jumped in and are now complaining it smells .
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I think the updates have been useful and been good to come on this thread and hear latest from case without having to trawl internet
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One the more sober threads on the proceedings so far as I can see.
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Jury now considering its verdict.
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I think he did it. Gut feeling.
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Vincent trading at 1000s to get off.
Bye Bye Vincent see you in 2050 The way this country is going you're better off on there. |
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Fancy been a juror on this trial not much of a challenge could have dropped off for a month.
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Two human lives ruined and many more devastated in an irrational moment. Very sad.
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Had it on good authority he will get 22 years give or so 10ish got 7-2 in billy hills 2 months before he did it.
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only two lives ruined, i'm a buyer at 2.5 lives ruined
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Be unusual jury that give anything but murder
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yep howdi. like most trials padded out with a lot of irrelevance nonsense. only question to be considered is whether he meant to cause her serious harm. would have thought it a bit hard to argue against that when you put your hands around someone's neck and squeeze for long enough to kill them.
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If the jury read the tabloids and Chit Chat they will be looking convict the landlord.
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did the landlord give evidence ?
his tv cameos hinted at knowing stuff about the case not known to the public. he seems to have found a new barber  |
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Landlord currently negotiating his compensation which will be considerable.
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he probably needs it to make up for lost rental income
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Jurors still out after three hours of deliberating. Judge epected to send them home for the night in next hour.
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Time for the ouija board then
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