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yes it loses strength where it hits and burns - that is not an explanation for the entire building collapsing is it
the 1993 bombs at the world trade centre went off and employees were none the wiser until it did Well i've read plenty of properly submitted testimony from structural engineers who would state categorically that it is. Are you a structural engineer? The 1993 bombing? Of course people were none the wiser. The bomb was hidden in a truck driven into the underground carpark. What a stupid comparison. ![]() |
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How long would the jet fuel burn for before it burns itself out?
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yes it loses strength where it hits and burns - that is not an explanation for the entire building collapsing is it
the 1993 bombs at the world trade centre went off and employees were none the wiser until it did Well, i've read plenty of properly submitted testimony from structural engineers who all agree that it is a perfectly cogent explanation. Are you a structural engineer? The 1993 bombing? Of course the employees were none the wiser. It was a truck bomb in the underground carpark. What a silly comparison. |
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apologies for the double post
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what are you talking about
are you honestly telling me that all 76 floors below the 77th where the first plane hit and all the 92 floors below the 93rd floor where the second plane hit - both collapsed because the steel structure above started to lose strength? - commercial aircrafts are designed with a light aluminium frame, there is no way they could have caused as much damage as was depicted you really think explosions cannot be carried without someone unassuming knowing ![]() |
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What about WTC7? a diferent design to 1&2 but do you feel it should have collapsed as it did suffering from office fires? |
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the floors there and above could no doubt collapse but the entire building crumbling the way it did
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hundred men on 4 aircrafts unable to overpower some bearded fellas with razor blades - whose passports feel out of sky into the fbi's hand and avoiding burning along the way, indestructible black boxes were not so lucky
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Ayers , from what I witnessed the huge mass of the upper floors crashed down on lower floors with increasing weight and momentum, causing the individual failure of each successive floor below?
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What other buildings of that size have collapsed?
I'm assuming there must be some otherwise how do you know it was 'un-natural' |
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As for the collapse of WTC7 do you honestly believe they'd blow it up because the spectacular annihilation of WTC 1 and 2 wasn't impressive enough?
![]() As far as i'm aware WTC7 sustained significant impact damage to its southwest corner and south face from thousands of tons of freefalling girders. Large fires burned uncontrolled in the basement ( diesel store ) and lower floors for over 6 hours. Exactly how should a building compromised in such a way collapse? |
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As with the moon landings (faked or not), a conspiracy would have had to involve dozens, probably hundreds, of people. To believe that they could all be "persuaded" to keep quiet ad infinitum is to believe in the impossible. Someone somewhere will always spill the beans, either by accident or design.
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There have been numerous documentaries on the aeroplanes naming the victims.
Relatives have been on talking about them. Now if this is all part of the conspiracy how many does that add to the list of those involved and keeping quiet. Apart from the immediate family you have other relatives and friends and would run into the thousands. |
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MMMMM LET ME THINK!
Pennsylvania- No plane wreckage, just a whole in the ground. Twin Towers - No black boxes recovered due to the 'intense heat', but, passports of supposed hijackers found. Pentagon - No film footage of a plane. BUT,if a place on earth has CCTV, this place has to. And yet, despite repeated demands by the 'Truthers', no film has been produced to prove them wrong. |
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Even in the NIST report structural damage is ruled out as to why it collapsed, blaming the fires and the very design is put at fault as to suggest the pancake theory collapse. It`s unique in that it is the only steel framed skyscraper ever to collapse into it`s own footprint at near freefall speed, all caused by office fires. Or have you seen one collapse like this before due to fire? ...or do they tipple over to point of least resistence? |
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Mcginty 12 Sep 13 22:28
Pentagon - No film footage of a plane. BUT,if a place on earth has CCTV, this place has to. And yet, despite repeated demands by the 'Truthers', no film has been produced to prove them wrong. This has always puzzled me. The Pentagon must be one of the Worlds most security conscious buildings, along with The White House, etc.. I imagine every inch of the place and it's surrounding area for miles would have been under surveillance 24/7 and a mouse could have been detected with cctv.... so how come nothing has been seen by anyone of the 'plane' crashing into the building? |
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I remember footage shown shortly after this event,I cannot remember the programme but the footage of the wtc 7 coming down was shown to a demolition expert,after being shown the footage he stated it was a nice demo job,when he was informed it was of wtc 7 the look on his face said it all.
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So where had this demolition expert been? Living on the moon?
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The footage did not show the towers burning in the background that would be a massive clue,it was edited to look like a normal multi storey building .
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That demolition expert was Danny Jowenko a Dutch guy, who sadly was killed when his car hit a tree. |
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Now there's another conspiracy stop it.The female prostitute who was about to spill the beans on Jeffery Archer before it all came out,dead car accident,wasnt there another famous one dead car accident.
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What about world trade centre buildings 3,4,5, and 6 - all four building were significanly closer to the WTC and also damaged, not one collapsed but 7 did
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It was supposed to be housing the cia wtc7,some division of it.
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yes also known as mayor guilianis bunker
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I think they have also proved that the angle that the plane took to hit the Pentagon was impossible. for a passenger jet to negotiate,that was another theory put forward by a American airline pilot.
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At the time of the September 11, 2001, attacks, Salomon Smith Barney was by far the largest tenant in 7 World Trade Center, occupying 1,202,900 sq ft (111,750 m2) (64 percent of the building) which included floors 28–45.[5][31] Other major tenants included ITT Hartford Insurance Group (122,590 sq ft/11,400 m²), American Express Bank International (106,117 sq ft/9,900 m²), Standard Chartered Bank (111,398 sq ft/10,350 m²), and the Securities and Exchange Commission (106,117 sq ft/9,850 m²).[31] Smaller tenants included the Internal Revenue Service Regional Council (90,430 sq ft/8,400 m²) and the United States Secret Service (85,343 sq ft/7,900 m²).[31] The smallest tenants included the New York City Office of Emergency Management,[32] National Association of Insurance Commissioners, Federal Home Loan Bank, First State Management Group Inc., Provident Financial Management, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service.[31] The Department of Defense (DOD) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) shared the 25th floor with the IRS.[5] Floors 46–47 were mechanical floors, as were the bottom six floors and part of the seventh floor.[
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The building also held archives of financial fraud cases that were yet solved. It is reported that these files held case details concerning the Enron energy scandal among others. After the WTC7 demolition, these files would disappear along with it, and many of the cases were lost.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2_nedORjw
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That stinks if true.Nice and convenient though.
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Additional details emerged Friday about the effect of the collapse of 7 World Trade Center on investigations being conducted by the New York offices of the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, both of which were housed in the building. The SEC has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom. The EEOC said documents from about 45 active cases were missing and could not be easily retrieved from any backup system. |
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Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center, one of the buildings that collapsed in the aftermath of the attack. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack.
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Laughable the American people need to wake up,outrageous,so the majority of cases were being investigated.They were being processed?
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Yes Bluemanc there was active financial fraud cases were vitaldocuments went down with WTC7 and the the CIA documents regarding Operation Able Danger (the tracking of the terror cell which hit 9/11)
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I am not a conspiracy theorist,I remember the day well,nothing rang true on the day,and still does not to this day.
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Bluemanc - I'm embarrassed to tell you that despite my 'default' always being suspicious of EVERYTHING, I was that shell-shocked on that day, I guzzled that jízz down with a stiff drink and it was a long time before I realised I'd been deep-throated whilst I was asleep
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this thread title is retarded. ofc someone conspired to blow up the twin towers
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that's literally what happened haha
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Most of the stuff being commented on here as fact is chyte posted by other conspiracy nut jobs just like them saying 'they didn't want to learn how to take-off and land
![]() ![]() BTW how many cctvs have you seen pointing up into the sky ![]() ![]() For those who think it a conspiracy how many people do you think were in on it? |
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I suppose you are right akabula and the Pentagon had one of them CCTV camera`s that Tesco`s have to see who is knicking bottles of Frosty Jacks
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What type do they have then?
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