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9/11 was it a conspiracy?
9/11 was it a conspiracy?
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2000 is MINE
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"And Göring said, "Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war? But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy. The people can always be brought to... the bidding of the leaders. All you have to do is tell them they’re being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism. It works the same way in any country.""
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After numerous rounds of "We don't even know if Osama is still alive,"
Osama himself decided to send George Bush a letter in his own handwriting to let him know he was still in the game. Bush opened the letter and it contained a single line of Coded message: 370H-SSV-0773H Bush was baffled, so he e-mailed it to Condoleezza Rice . Condi and her aides had not a clue either, so they sent it to the FBI. No one could solve it at the FBI so it went to the CIA, then to MI6 and Mossad. Eventually they asked Pakistan Intelligence (ISI) for help. Within a minute, ISI emailed the White House with this reply: "Tell the President he's holding the message upside down." hello ass hole |
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Goring now?
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Sparky Im not going to quote Sebastian Coe ffs
Only the ones who have been involved in world changing events of military action. Hope this is ok. |
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Why?
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they blew Kennedy's head off in front of everyone. So what does that tell you. Dont go rejecting Northwoods, sabotaging bay of pigs or peacefully ending the cuban missile crisis. Bush certainly wouldnt behave that way.
Kennedy always thwarted their Cuban plans. He understood the cold war conspiracy the only guy ever to really fight a Cold War was McCarthy n they demonise him for it |
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omg is this thread still going!?
canaryboy must be pi$$ing himself! |
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Canaryboy like many on here have bed wetting troubles due to deep sleep syndrome!
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lol what?
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 This thread is now in freefall, its has about a dozen office fires and the NIST report states that any structural damage can not possibly be the cause of this collapse. See you in the rubble as the 47 stories collapse in approximately 7 freefall seconds! |
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So, if the official story is true, why do the tv companies show the phoney footage in New York?
such as: The moving Verrazano bridge, The nose out shot of the second "plane", The impossibly fast flock of birds, Buildings in the foreground moving position. Surely, there would be no need for these anomalies if the event was a genuine terrorist attack. |
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Why isn't anyone debunking this?
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I don't think anyone thinks those are phoney. Like you say, why make purposefully bad footage. Far more likely you don't properly understand what you're seeing.
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do any of you lot consider what it is you are saying? the tiniest bit of contradictory or circumstantial 'evidence' is taken as proof of the most incredible, well-planned, gigantic and sinister conspiracy there has ever been. and nobody out the the huge number of people involved has broken ranks and spilled the beans, not even a whisper. amazing. clear evidence of a cover-up
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do any of you lot consider what it is you are saying? the tiniest bit of contradictory or circumstantial 'evidence' is taken as proof of the most incredible, well-planned, gigantic and sinister conspiracy there has ever been. and nobody out the the huge number of people involved has broken ranks and spilled the beans, not even a whisper. amazing. clear evidence of a cover-up
This is the nub of the argument. Not a whisper from just one the very many who would have to have been involved in any such false flag operation and cover-up. This really does destroy the conpsiracy theory. |
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sparkmaster. Joined: 07 Aug 01
Replies: 10621 08 Sep 10 13:31 I don't think anyone thinks those are phoney. Like you say, why make purposefully bad footage. Far more likely you don't properly understand what you're seeing. I think I know a moving bridge when I see one. I'm also sure that the nose of a "plane" doesn't stay in tact after it has apparently smashed through a structure much stronger than its aluminium shell. |
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Well then you're destined to remain puzzled I suspect!
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lol I just had a look at the video, what on earth makes you think the bridge is moving - this is classic Clockwork BAD SCIENCE! It's the camera you doofus!
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Lucky Trifecta, I'm no expert in film analysis or the geography of NYC, but let's imagine that your questions over this footage are valid and that the images are dubious. How do you know that the footage is genuine? Might someone have planted it to disinform and confuse?
My feeling is that TV fakery, pods, Judy Woods, holograms, and other "evidence" are all red herrings and probably disinfo. You may be interest in these pages: http://911blogger.com/node/17206 http://www.oilempire.us/tv-mind.html http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/11/september-clues-debunked.html Plenty more can be found here: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=3ng&rlz=1R1DVFD_en-GB___GB356&q=tv+fakery+disinfo&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= |
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http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=3ng&rlz=1R1DVFD_en-GB___GB356&q=tv+fakery+disinfo&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= |
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ive watched so much stuff on it and i still cant make up my mind. i was watchin so much conspiracy stuff at one point it fu cked my head up!!!! money masters and all that stuff. something definately not right about it. the one thing im fairly certain about is those buildings did not fall down from the aeroplanes hittin them. they are a perfect controlled demolition. it must have taken some real hard work to bring those buildings down as perfect as that
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why?
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why what?
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Why do you believe that?
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FFS why does he believe what?
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What he typed! He only made one post!
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Well,it could be why he can't make his mind up...or
why he thinks there's something not quite right....or why he thinks those buildinds didn't fall down from the aeroplanes hittin them...or why it must have taken some real hard work to bring those buildings down. |
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You think I'd be asking him why he believes he can't make his own mind up? I'll give him the credit of knowing what he things! I'm referring to the substantive claim he makes, that the buildings were not caused to fall by the planes and were in fact a perfect demolition.
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*thinks
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HAS ANYBODY DEFECTED TO THE OTHER SIDE YET ?
If not, who won ?  |
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Yes we've all moved to the debunkers side!!
No doubt influenced by sparkmaster's rapier like wit and damning putdowns whilst he slurps throughout the day. Finally I'm saved! |
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He probably thinks they were a perfect demolition because that's what it looked like.
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Give him a chance Gene!
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Freefall! Sparky
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simply because they fall too perfectly. i first subscribed to the view that the fire melted the steel structure which then weakened it, so all the weight which was above it ie another 30 floors or whatever it was collapsed down through the building. if you watch the videos of the collapse though you can see thats not the case. its impossible. also that tower 7 collapse doesnt add up either. thats just shockin. i dont know exactly what went off on that day and i think i'll always be undecided on it
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Is that 'the view that the fire melted the steel structure which then weakened it, so all the weight which was above it ie another 30 floors or whatever it was collapsed down through the building' the determination of the official investigation?
If not, this means nothing. |
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former Sen. Max Cleland, who resigned from the commission with the words, "Bush is scamming America."
Cleland attacked his own commission after the other members cut a deal to accept highly limited access to CIA reports to the White House that may indicate advance knowledge of the attacks on the part of the Bush administration. "This is a scam," Cleland said. "It's disgusting. America is being cheated." "As each day goes by," Cleland said, "we learn that this government knew a whole lot more about these terrorists before September 11 than it has ever admitted.... Let's chase this rabbit into the ground. They had a plan to go to war and when 9/11 happened that's what they did; they went to war." |
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sparkmaster. Joined: 07 Aug 01
Replies: 10642 08 Sep 10 22:08 Is that 'the view that the fire melted the steel structure which then weakened it, so all the weight which was above it ie another 30 floors or whatever it was collapsed down through the building' the determination of the official investigation? If not, this means nothing. sorry, i perhaps dont know as much about it as you. what was the official line on how they collapsed then or could you please explain to me how they did? |