bodil 01 May 01:13


Lots do because it makes them part of the community. That or the community will kill them.

Who are you on about?

how do you consolidate prayer and infalibility?

Not sure what you are asking here. Can you explain a bit better?


Does your god make mistakes?

Also the more you understand about how something operates the closer you get to why.Stephen hawkings said this himself and it makes sense

Very true Zola

bodil 01 May 01:26
Religion - do what the shifty guy in the skirt tells you to or it's a slow knife in the guts.

Try to grow up you wasters. Concentrate


Are you on drugs? shifty guy in the skirt. This may be your idea of God, but it's not mine. You are the one who needs to grow up. You make baseless assertions that you don't back up with an evidence. typical atheist. And then you make puerile insults.Don't run off you chicken. Have the guts to provide some evidence for your beliefs.

fitzy 01 May 01:36
Paganism is a belief , no difference.




Valid. And so is atheism. They believe that no God or gods exist.

David Fishwick Minibus Sales 01 May 05:03
i believe i may convert to islam at some point in the near future. inchallah my brother.



Why would you want to convert to an uncivilised religion like Islam.The Koran teaches Muslims to kill the infidel.

BonViv 01 May 18:34
HOW DID ADAM AND EVE DEAL WITH DINOSAURS?




[b]They didn't have to they were separated by millions of years. You need to learn about evolution.[/b]

Zola's Back Heel 01 May 19:34
Sunset, of course our thoughts are based on our experiences. To have a rational thought, you need information to process, you only gain information through your experiences.

There is an argument that there may be some genetic precoding but ultimately that willl have come from experience of our ancesters too.



So there is no free will? I'd like to see a defence lawyer try this one in court. Oh well ladies and gentlemen of the jury my client couldn't help kill and torture that baby because of his past experiences. He was abused as a kid and so was his Mother. My client had no choice in the matter because of his past experiences. it's in his DNA you know. While these circumstances should be taken into account that doesn't mean the man would be innocent or that he shouldn't be punished.Our society is based on the belief of free will.

greenviking 01 May 19:45
Sunset what are you talking my thoughts being from random events?According to you it wont happen if it is not gods will,which makes nothing random as its gods will,thats a contradiction.





[b]Most atheists believe that the big bang just happened by chance. You are the first atheist that I have ever spoke to that thought it was designed.if it was a random event then everything else is random. If it was designed then everything else is designed. the latter is my position.[/b]



And of course all thoughts are a result of what does/doesnt happen to you in your life and your personal beliefs arise from this.



So you don't believe in free will? They have studied twins separated at birth . Brought up by different parents under very different circumstances and the twins have had very similar experiences and think alike . etc.. They have also studied twins brought up by the same parents under very similar circumstances and their personalities are like chalk and cheese.




As for believing the universe was designed I can do that without having to believe the Christian version of it cant I




yes you can, but it would still make you a theist or at least a deist not an atheist.


.I believe it was scientifically designed not mystically or divinely,to theorise perhaps by an advanced race or races



[b]These advanced race or races would be gods then. So you believe in gods. So you are a theist. A god is 2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality[/b]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/god





.Also you have been asked a few times on thid thread why you consider your belief system superior to others and answered that in Christianity ye believe god already loves you etc.-this only states why you like it and why it appeals to you not why you consign other faiths to the bin.






[b]I was trying to show that Christianity is unique. I was trying to show why it is different from other religions. As for liking it I would give it up tomorrow. if you could prove it wrong or that is was false. why would i want to live my life believing a lie. As for liking it. When I first began to examine Christianity I didn't want to become religious. But if you want to be intellectually honest you have to follow the evidence where ever it goes. I consign other faiths to the bin because there is no evidence for them. There is evidence for Christianity based on eyewitness testimony in the gospels that you reject . You have given no reason why you reject this evidence. So I ask you again why do you reject the gospels?[/b]

Zola's Back Heel 01 May 19:56
Well his computer said it. We're just assuming he typed it first.



[b]What are you trying to say?[/b]

I am Sikh and have found you are only a good sikh when people say you are. Can you be a Sikh and not believe in god. I'm not sure, i suppose there wouldn't be many left. I am singling out my own religion. It is my favourite religion and would never be anything else. If people believe in god then everything they do in life would be done with the creator in mind. Most religous people give the impression they are religous to make themselves look good. If religion is no more than a sect or community with their own motives perhaps it is best that i walk my own path. It is a shame because i always liked culture and religion but have isolated myself because i dont always like what i see.

I cannot follow blind faith. How many people on here back horses without reading the form

Zola's Back Heel
Does your god make mistakes?

Sunset Cristo
No.


So you don't partake in prayer.

Zola's Back Heel 02 May 19:18
Zola's Back Heel
Does your god make mistakes?

Sunset Cristo
No.


So you don't partake in prayer.



Yes i do.

Sunset
There is alot more to it than that though. Christians have been persecuted for the last 2000 years.It's not really about some fussy warm feeling in your belly. it's about what is really true in life.
Why have Christians been persecuted for 2000 years?
and iyo what is true in life.
imo the only thing that is true, is that we die eventually.

I read this thread expecting someone to have definitively established whether God existed - after thousands of yers conflict, this would seem to be the perfect platform to get this sorted once and for all

an opportunity wasted

Zola's Back Heel 02 May 19:38


Do you pray for certain things to change, or be just as they are?

I do pray for some things to change , but always pray for Gods will to be done. This is how Jesus said to pray.

fkqmz 03 May 08:44


icabod if you knew the answers to these questions you would BE god. youll find out when you die.



He is god in his own eyes. Very arrogant. This is why he can't see the truth. It's not God who is on trail it's us.

just a quick return foray for me

Probably the same reason the Jews have because they are different from the crowd. People are frightened by people who are different to them

You earlier stated that Christians or Theists if you prefer were a majority.

That is all

No