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apparently russian intelligence, and even as announced in iranian parliament (its on youtube somewhere), a russian satelite detected an EMP strike at the coordinates of jackson house on the day of his death matching that of EMP weapons stolen from ussr during the cold war.
apparently the sheik of somewhere made a deal with jackson - to loan him x million dollars in return for jacksons uk concert to be used as a platform to make the world aware that the western elite were planning a huge genocide action on their own people later this year. interestingly, an exercise also went on recent this year in the usa, where houses were all marked with gps... research all this - plenty around if you look hard. fire up google. the link golfboy posted above is a good starting place |
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lol
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please tell me he's not for real :0
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lol
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clockwork will love this
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you should have a look at that site btw, its great fun, they're selling:
Preparedness Tools Natural News Bundle For preparedness and safety: 60% off for preparing for natural disasters |
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I like the way a candidate drug killing ferrets is in some way evidence of a conspiracy.
Thank f**k they didn't test penicillin on guinea pigs before it went into widespread use. "Alexander Fleming is at the heart of a major worldwide conspiracy to commit genocide using a new kind of drug called an 'antibiotic'." |
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"This new 'antibiotic' is responsible for the deaths of several cats, rabbits and guinea pigs and yet the authorities still plan to press ahead with its production"
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not sure what ur getting at pool.
if a medicine in its final ready for sale form kills its test subjects, would you sell it anyway, and be prepared for your family to take it? would you not want to find out for certain whether it was the medicine that killed the subject, and/or prove that it wasnt? |
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What makes you think that it was being administered to those ferrets in its final for sale form?
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And penicillin in its current for sale form kills guinea pigs, rabbits and cats.
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and the poor bacteria :(
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Do you think the WHO had any part in identifying whether penicillin, toxic to the species I listed above, could be a risk to humans?
What I'm saying is that something being toxic to ferrets doesn't really imply it will be toxic to humans at comparable dosage. There will be other tests on species with physiologies closer to humans. Do you have the results of any of those? |
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In short, toxicity to ferrets is in no way evidence of a worldwide genocide conspiracy.
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you are quite right it's not. looks to me though that is merely circumstancial evidence that should be taken into context with what other information is provided.
i guess its out of the question eh that any company or organisation would do something like this to further its own cause and/or financially benefit. if you were to look into it you would find that there are various examples throughout modern histroy where this has occurred. not least spain 1918 where only those who took the vaccine died, again apparently. why do you think people would make these sorts of things up? what do they have to gain? weigh that up against what big pharma and the elite have to gain if the reverse is in fact true and they are up to no good. just offering all this as a possibility. you dont think the media are making a big deal out of this and trying to scare people? seems to me people are scared about it. some would beg for legislation to make vaccinations mandatory no? |
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"i guess its out of the question eh that any company or organisation would do something like this to further its own cause and/or financially benefit."
Not at all, but as evidence it is of no value whatsoever as it's probably pretty normal with drug trials that some species are killed by the drugs under trials without the same effect on humans. |
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We lose another one :-(
19 yr old las from London has died of swine-flu. He did have health problems though also. But still it seems it's becoming more and more now and we ain't even in the normal seasonal flu stage. |
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the article doesnt provide any evidence- at no point does it suggest it does, and neither have i. it says this jane burgermeister woman has submitted evidence - and then it states what she is saying she is proving.
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how many die of flu each year anyway? obviously we don't see any of them on the news!
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Erm what vaccine in 1918 please?
As far as I could see the only specific mention of a "problematic" drug in 1918 was ASPIRIN which is not a flu vaccine. Most likely people were taking that to alleviate the symptoms. Could you tell me more about the flu vaccines available in 1918 and which companies produced and marketed them? You see, I don't think there were any. |
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No, it's claiming that she is providing this information as evidence to support her claims. Therefore if her evidence is invalid, then the claims are pretty weak.
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Eh?
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Sorry Cath, your comment came in the middle of the discussion of the possibility of a worldwide conspiracy to use swine flu as a mechanism to commit genocide.
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fair quesiton re 1918. i will look into it.
perhaps while you wait you will answer the other questions i put above that you seem to have ignored with your gung-ho debate style. why do you think people would make these sorts of things up? what do they have to gain? weigh that up against what big pharma and the elite have to gain if the reverse is in fact true and they are up to no good. just offering all this as a possibility. you dont think the media are making a big deal out of this and trying to scare people? seems to me people are scared about it. some would beg for legislation to make vaccinations mandatory no? how many die of flu each year anyway? obviously we don't see any of them on the news! |
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and this response from you:
No, it's claiming that she is providing this information as evidence to support her claims. Therefore if her evidence is invalid, then the claims are pretty weak. seems to say exactly what i said? the article doesnt provide any evidence- at no point does it suggest it does, and neither have i. it says this jane burgermeister woman has submitted evidence - and then it states what she is saying she is proving |
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and u havent even answered this either.
if a medicine in its final ready for sale form kills its test subjects, would you sell it anyway, and be prepared for your family to take it? would you not want to find out for certain whether it was the medicine that killed the subject, and/or prove that it wasnt? and what about the rest of the article.. |
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(1) why do you think people would make these sorts of things up?
What have I said she's making up? |
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or do u just try to pick something out to discuss because you think that may be one part of it you can pick apart? if you can, fair play. but does that automatically discredit everything else or should they been looked at too..
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It's really nice to see others in discussion on the subject. This what we need more of, sharing research and sharing thoughts without the need for abuse comments.
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(1) why do you think people would make these sorts of things up?
What have I said she's making up? you havent plainly but it's pretty clear from the tone of your comments to anyone who can read. |
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That's me out :(
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ty cath. have you any thoughts on the article in question?
here it is again if you missed it. http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html |
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"weigh that up against what big pharma and the elite have to gain if the reverse is in fact true and they are up to no good."
Indeed. But you can postulate any possible hypothesis you want without evidence, doesn't mean that it's real. Just because someone *might* have something to gain (and a smaller workforce in the US isn't necessarily a big gain for the "elite") doesn't mean it's happening. |
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it's part of determining truth. it's called motive. they look for that in court cases too ya know..
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DonWarro
I'll have a read later, I can't open up links on this machine. |
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No, I'm not saying she's making anything up. I'm saying that she is interpreting events incorrectly, at least to some extent.
If you want to know what she may have to gain, possibly she wants fame or notoriety. Maybe she just wants to influence people who don't have much information themselves or don't know how to read behind some of the evidence. Maybe she's right. However, the mere possibility she may be right doesn't make it wrong to explore and examine her "evidence" in more detail to see whether the interpretations she's putting on things is sensible or not. |
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motive without evidence wouldn't remotely secure a conviction.
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"you dont think the media are making a big deal out of this and trying to scare people?"
I do, because that's what the media do with everything, sells newspapers, increases viewing figures. I would expect no less from them. Aren't there already compulsory vaccinations in the US? Why not just poison people through tetanus boosters? |
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Any internet article, or post that contains references to 'the elite' may be safely discounted as piffle(1).
1. See all posts by Clocky |
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I do, because that's what the media do with everything, sells newspapers, increases viewing figures. I would expect no less from them.
they do it with their or the establishments chosen subjects of the day. if they want to hide something, they do. what's been happening in the world why the media has focussed on jackos death? |