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He would be in Carstairs nowadays with multi personality disorder
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what about all the ancient Greek Gods, did they exist?
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SNOOCH - Get a hold of a copy of GK Chesterton's "Everlasting Man" - he writes about a lot of the things you've been saying.
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i always wonder about the poor sods who were born before ZERO AD ..
they don't seem to have had a chance of entering heaven ...or am i missing a point there ? |
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life is too busy to read. Give me a quick review
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He has chapters about the Greek Gods, etc...but why stop at Greece?
What about Odin...Thor...Maradona...? |
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why not?
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Don't be a lazy basturd, SNOOCH - order the book from yer library for 20p.
Take advantage of the dying days of the Labour administration. While you're at it, ask if they've got a history of Kilmarnock FC. |
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Fair play to you Vel, your only one of a few who defends religion on here, most of the others sit on the fence.
Your arguments have been flawed however just like your book, when on the backheel you've resorted to "because god did it." If anything tonight has reinforced my beliefs, when your god stops being so benign and stops talking through individuals (David Icke excluded as you've told me so) I may start thinking about it. |
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Joe Jordan 13 Dec 23:33
i always wonder about the poor sods who were born before ZERO AD .. they don't seem to have had a chance of entering heaven ...or am i missing a point there ? ---------------------------- The Bible says Jesus descended into Hell (after his death on the cross) to set the captives free...I wonder if Dante and Michelangelo produced art based on this idea...? The snooker's on if you can't be ar$ed with Dante. |
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no need for KFC book
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Can I just make this clear? I don't defend religion. I'm not interested in religion.
I've defended the Jesus of the Gospels on here...and I'm not the only one...Tony has too. |
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Jesus is convincing,even compelling, as the leading man but God is love is a lightweight message and it soon goes downhill
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So 2,000 year old men who have seen god has you more captivated than today's messiah David Icke. Who speaks the truth?
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Jesus = God so that argument fails Dobbo.
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There must be a song in that, Dobbo.
Get cracking. |
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I dont have an arguement other than to know in my heart and soul (for want of a better word) that it is sentimental nonsense.
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And god also impregnated Jesus' mother so there's a bit of fiddling going on in that family, incest is rife around that time.
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Vela - I've defended the Jesus of the Gospels on here...and I'm not the only one...Tony has too.
It is purely opinion based as you cannot provide any form of evidence to substantiate whether the whole thing is fact or fiction. |
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Velasquez 13 Dec 22:11
The Bible says the Earth is GOVERNED by the sun and moon...on its FIRST page it says this! Thing is, the Earth isn't governed by the moon |
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See, you're using a word there, "soul", but how would you DEFINE it? Is it just a vague, farty term or do you have a specific meaning?
The Bible is very clear on definitions of the soul - I'll let you go first, Dobbo, then I'll post a definition... |
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You don't know where you stand SNOOTCH, sit on the fence until the last 5 minutes.
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Tides?
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Its a pointless discussion. You have more chance of peeing to the moon than you have of shaking Vels faith.Likewise he has more chance of leaping the Grand Canyon with his legs tied together than he has of convincing me that his God exists.
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Eclipse?
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Come on, give us some SOUL music, Dobbo!
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Oval - as i said earlier, I am neither a believer or non believer. I see myself as a realist. I need proof and facts in my life, not story books
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I qualified the use of the word soul. I mean the essence of me. The me that is me.I can't define it but neither Jesus or God or the plurality of the trinity are involved.
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Take me To The River Vel: and wash me down.
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Moon madness ????????
Owwwwwwwwww ! |
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Or is it Watch me drown?
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I was on that fence 5 years ago, now I know where I stand.
The more I read, hear, listen (including this thread), the more I am convinced. If there is an ultimate creator then he is very benign. |
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The Bible definition of soul :
It's the seat of the emotions...your likes and dislikes...your inclinations...it's what you think you want...it's the seat of your NATURAl (Darwinian??) personality. The soul seeks to enclose the SPIRIT of man. So man has a body, soul and spirit... |
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So...you have a plurality - a kind of "trinity" there...the body being visible, the soul partially visible, and the spirit...invisible.
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I'll take the definition. You hang on to the bible
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so,
Body=physical Soul=emotions Spirit=?????????????????????? |
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But I got the definition FROM the Bible...which bank do you work for?
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Like buses eh....
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Which bible Vel, there are so many of them.
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I'm not interested in the provenance. I'll take it. Let me know when you find some more like it. I am making Xmas crackers at the moment.
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