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QUEEN MOTHER 2022
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Energumene is a concern given his stablemate CPS is more fancied. However, I cannot see him being rerouted to the Ryanair (Alaho). Maybe the Ascot exertion had taken its toll. Punchestown?
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Can get 9/2 with a couple of books too. Great value nrnb to me.
Surely if he isn't 100% they wouldn't chance him. If he is 100% fine he only has a length to make up, Townend will ride and the price comparison with Shishkin is ridiculous. Henderson horses not firing either. |
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I cannot see past Shiskin , unless they get him on the floor by going hard early .
I do hope Nuba Negra wins .....I have a double on a golfer who won at a big price with it ...20K  |
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Energumene had a bit of a stone bruise.
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I said on here I had doubts about Energumie getting there, willies attitude was pretty negative after the shiskin defeat. A stone bruise is over and done with in ten days but he cant gallop the horse. Fact is over the years he would know anywhere and everyhere there was a stone in carlow.
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i think that ascot race has took a fair bit out of energumene and who knows how its affected shishkin !
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Energumene apparently is recovering well from recently a stone bruise; Walsh has a spin on him. Nevertheless this happened just 2 weeks to the big gig; drifted like a barge (out to 22 here) last couple of days. And, stable has a long history profiting from no-shows at big gigs.
Let's hope he shows up and do battle with Shishkin again. |
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justr lay ptko not a hope.
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and on that note henrys confidence on ptko has gone through the roof ^
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not a hope foyle and yew know it.
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"stable has a long history profiting from no-shows at big gigs."
You are one sad fecker impissible Wheres yer evidence ? |
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"stable has a long history profiting from no-shows at big gigs."
You are one sad fecker impissible Wheres yer evidence ? |
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Callisto ...
Lay a four time cheltenham winner and reigning champion at 20's? Not a good idea mate |
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shishkin 2 mistakes last time still won obviously top class but make one in the queen mother and its a different ball game ,may well win the price tells us that but is he value ? many will say yes and lump on the" banker " but i have 2 running for me at big odds in ptko and nube negra each way and wouldnt swap with the fav.
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Well played foyles
The lads in the family (the mother, two sons and their neighboyr) who own the mare have had some great times over at Cheltenham and there was never any way they weren't going to bring her back again. At the end of the day you go to the best trainers to get their advice but Henry was indecisive because he didnt know and was willing to try anything. Never mind the bullsh1t put up on here by the guessers who acutually want the horse to get beat ! |
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Nicky on shishkin......
hope we do declare him, but if we don’t I hope everybody will understand,” added the Seven Barrows handler. “The horse comes first and he needs to work very well for us to be happy. “Personally I think he ranks at the top of the division, but we’re not going to prove it if we’re only going out 95% fit - there’s no point in doing that. Willie .....He’s back to himself. He was very good all week and he trained very well,” said Mullins. “I thought I had him very ready the last couple of times and he disappointed so this week I decided I was just going to get him here at 95 per cent and I think he’s better like that. “He’s been pleasing me at home doing that, so that’s what I’ll be doing for the future and hopefully I can get him across the water in that sort of form. |
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well thats good that there having great times at Cheltenham and no way would they
miss it ....and the 10/1 joke price factored in...and whats been available over the winter,,,well i wont mind if the mare repeats |
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Theres one of them saying there is no point in going out 95% fit and the other saying he thinks his horse is better 95% fit.
These are the top two Cheltenham trainers !  |
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yeah seen that...mullins referring to CPS only tho...Hendo could end up with no runners,,lolol
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irishone
irishone Date Joined: 22 Sep 06 Add contact | Send message 05 Mar 22 10:33Joined: 22 Sep 06 | Topic/replies: 47,995 | Blogger: irishone's blog Callisto ... Lay a four time cheltenham winner and reigning champion at 20's? Not a good idea mate agree that the stats are great and im not for one moment suggesting that its a donkey, but this is opposition at a level never faced. |
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Maybe callisto, maybe !
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yer sorry Irish im not at all having a pop at the horse.
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Nice bit of rain due today but we aint had it yet !
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Fly in the ointment is Envoi Allen. He was lauded, but failed to deliver; different drip could bring long overdue and just reward.
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Think Willie got him fit,is all things equal impossible,keep that drip pumping
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Great stuff from Mullins.
I remember Seamus Graham telling another trainer, who became and still is a top greyhound trainer, that the worst thing you can do is try to put a bit more in. That can do much more damage than good he told him. Once they're right leave them alone. I suppose only the very best trainers have that confidence. |
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Shame PTKO ran in the wrong race this year….egos often take over. Would have had an even money chance looking at the result in the Mares Chase.
Off to the sales at Aintree next according to RP. Interesting to see who buys her. |
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Hi bore trying to get the last word .....
Shishkin .....discuss |
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Not sure what happened to Shishkin. It obviously wasn’t right after jumping first flight….lucky I didn’t back it. I was on Nuba so got most of money back NRNB.
So you don’t think PTKO ran in the wrong race ? Must have been an expensive lesson for you especially when the ground came in her favour. |
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Go on hibore keep it up ....
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Nicky Henderson has confirmed Shishkin has been diagnosed with "a pretty rare bone condition," and will miss the rest of the season.
The eight-year-old was pulled up during the Champion Chase at Cheltenham - won by Energumene - with his poor performance later blamed on the ground. However on Tuesday Henderson gave an update on his star chaser, saying his condition is "mendable |
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Glad something has come to light as it was obvious he was sick.
Hope he will co.e back but I would have serious doubts personally. |
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Hendo chose to disclose this rare bone condition of Shishkin to his paymaster, Unibet the bookie. Any doubt where his allegiance lies has been completely proven. I hope he spoke to Mrs J Donnelly before anyone else.
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What do you think?
Of course the owners would have been told before he spoke to the media |
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I hope so otherwise Shishkin could be going to pasture new. Hendo was so categoric it was the ground responsible for the dismal run. Similarly, he said Epatante was all pace after talking to her pilot, and could do battle again with Honeysuckle at Punchestown. Where's she headed? Aintree Hurdle over 2m 4f.
Bookie man speak with fork-tongue. |
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Hendo is a creature of habit to an extraordinary degree. It's better to look at what he's done in the past that what he says. He quite often sends his Champion Hurdle horse to the Aintree Hurdle.
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Poison Nicky has done it too often now. He knew the ground was dodgy so he should have taken the horse out. Nichols did it and caused havoc in the ring with BMG and hendo would have never let that bother him based on previous comments. So the deflection he is now trying is pathetic.
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Horses' bones generally grow until they are six years old — however, the bones that affect height commonly mature at an earlier age, four-years-old. The only way to confirm a horse has finished growing is by x-rays.
Radiographic studies on the acquisition of bone mineral in horses from one day of age to 27 years have shown that maximum bone mineral content (BMC) is not achieved until the horse is six years old. 21 Nov 2019 Principles of Bone Development in Horses - Kentucky Equine Research How Old Is the Average Horse When It Stops Growing? - Pets on Mom.com animals.mom.com › old-average-horse-st... The plates belonging to bones that are involved in how tall a horse gets -- such as hocks, tibias and femurs -- have usually fused by around 4 years of age. Why didnt he name the rare bone disease ? |