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The Impossible Dream....
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Unless Sam Spinner improves further and Unowhatimeanharry is rejuvenated after a long break this race looks increasingly open. Let's hope Yanworth does turn up otherwise this year's renewal could turn out to be a non-event for the future.
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A non-event sure Cole Harden won it and the event goes on..... there is always some improver every year.... Strange negative comment
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The value in this event is gradually going I`m on TNO at nice odds..... it will be around 7/1 on the day
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Not sure TNO is value,we dont know well he will stay 3m.Fair chance if he does though.
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If you think he will be 7 on the day, then yes current odds could be seen as value. And it sounds like you have bigger than current odds,so fair play.
To me a horse that has spent most of his long career mainly over 2m,tells me that although he has form over 2 and a halfm,they wanted to use his stamina to get home well over 2m rather than see him struggle to get 3m. They have had plenty of time to run him over 3m during his career and declined to do so,and this could well be a hint of desperation,kind of last chance saloon if you like, as he gets towards the end of his career. Then again,Solwhit and Nichols Canyon stepped up and won this race. |
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Yeah, the the risk Bud, we know that... but it`s the way the race is going to be run... hopefully Sam and Beer line-up that will make the gallop for him and his class should see him well positioned turning for home and we know he battles on a track he loves.Plenty of form over 2m5f-2m4f so yes if he stays he should be going close to winning it`s as simple as that. The public will see this clearly closer the event but the value could be gone by then.
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Lil Rockerfeller appears to be completely overlooked. He has one decent win under his belt this season and would n't have liked the ground at Wetherby - you have to overlook his Long Walk effort but I think his stable was in one of their cold spells then. And he's still only 7.
Even if you don't fancy him, I'd love someone to explain to me why all the NRNB firms have him at longer odds than Finian's Oscar even after yesterday - just shows the impact hype horse versus unfashionable grinder has on the market. |
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I would be surprised if Finians runs after yesterday. Looked a non stayer at 3 miles and not even good enough to beat those at any distance.
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I have fancied Supersun for a while but its a conundrum until we know who runs, I hope Yanworth runs, think it would win it
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SuperSun for me also. Think he'll improve alot for the ground.
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The trainer of Yanworth is very adamant it is either the RSA or the Stayers, but he'd need to know soon so that the beast could be prepared for it; the betting is suggesting more likely the Stayers is 14 (has been 12), the RSA was last matched at 38. Great chance if the final destination is here.
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supersundae now resembles banker material to me. good enough to beat faugheen, albeit a horse who is probably past his best. and his advantage over sam spinner is that he's also proven at cheltenham.
I really think he could absolutely dot up. |
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Faugheen is certainly past his best,but still a good run to win over 2m for a stayer,and has to have a big chance.
Bl00dy awful race for a Champion Hurdle though i thought. |
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I think the 3m on the New Course will find Supa out.
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I was very surprised Supasundae was able to go with Faugheen from the off and then beat him in a 2m race, but clearly that was not the Faugheen we all knew. Surely, after Leopardstown today King and McManus must realise they have a star that had beaten Supasundae in the Liverpool Stayers last season and would have an excellent chance of winning this race than the RSA if given the opportunity.
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Lets hope so Imp.
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They would be stark raving mad not to run Yanworth
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Would be surprised if yanworth doesn't go for the stayers as the trainer said he entered him on his form at Liverpool and the horse he beat is now the favourite for the stayers
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I have the stamina concerns for Supasundae too. I'm not too convinced that Apples Jade is a 3 miler and he couldn't get passed her, and he also couldn't beat Yanworth at Aintree - does look to be improved though. I personally think he's a 2.5 miler but we'll see - if he stays 3m then he probably wins.
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looking forward to this race the more I think about it, have backed beer googles before he lost LTO but really have no idea at all who's going to win! Won't have any more bets on the race and just watch with intrigue
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Definitely mate, an intriguing race. Hasn't got the star names running through it, but it's definitely competitive.
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exactly and sometimes it's a race like this that makes a star, or one that throws out a random result......we may not know til Cheltenham 2019 :D
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penhill seems to be the quiet one here . won in style at 3m last year and available at 13.5 on bf . my money is down
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A bit of bite for Yanworth into 10 here from 17 yesterday. Decision soon or made perhaps.
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Alan King stated it was either Stayers Hurdle or RSA.
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Connections have confirmed Yanworth will run in the Sun Bets Stayers' Hurdle at the Cheltenham Festival next month.
Nice one. |
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impossible123 - good call. Well done.
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Thanks. Have some juicy 10/1 and 7/1 all nrnb singles, doubles and trebles with Footpad, Yorkhill (Ryanair, nrnb) and Native River or Sizing John. All I need now is for either Yorkhill to run in the Ryanair or Champion Hurdle (without BD).
Yanworth ought to be competing for favouritism given he started fav for the Champion Hurdle and 2nd in the Neptune, and owned by JP renowned for taking on the bookies. |
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A word of caution before everyone steams into Yanworth in the Stayers: horses that have previously run in the Champion hurdle have a shocking record in the Stayers.
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But horses that have a touch of 2 mile class which Yanworth has ISH don't do bad, Solwhit and Nichol's Canyon recently.
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and both ran in champion hurdle prior to Stayers Hurdle wins...so ain't a bad record recently after all really!!
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and of course, Annie did it the other way around
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The present bunch, apart from the young improving pretender Sam Spinner, is much of a muchness eg Supasundae the fav who was 2nd to Apple's Jade and beat the aging, issues ridden and declining Faugheen. I think this is the race with the best chance of a win for Yanworth at this Festival after a couple of false dawns in the past.
If Harry Fry is proven right a rejuvenated Unowhatimeanharry (Uno) could be the one to beat as he said said Uno was not right in his last run. The other could be Sam Spinner an improving youngster who won well last time, but I do not rate L'Ami Serge who always flatters to deceive in his races. |
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Not sure Yanworth deserves to be fav Imp having been novice chasing (not particularly impressively) all year and not even ran in any of the big trials over hurdles. Sure he beat Supasundae last year, but a year can be a long time in racing and Supasundae has been nothing but impressive this year going into the race in the form of his life.
Re the 2m point, it's a very good one but personally don't think Yanworth has anywhere near as much class as Solwhit or Nichols Canyon, who were top draw 2 milers; I'm afraid Yanworth wasn't. |
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He should'nt be fav i agree Chief,and he werent top drawer at 2miles
 ,but he may be now hes running where he should be.Big player in this stayers hurdle. |
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I'd not swap Yanworth with any other runner for this race. He could emulate Buveur D'Air as he's the class and stamina to usurp the present fav, and probably Sam Spinner (my biggest worry). I'm glad connections have taken a leaf out of Hendo and Co and postpone his aspiration into a Gold Cup horse (eventually).
To me Yanworth is definitely my 'silver bullet' for this race. Now, I just hope he gets there in one piece and reaps just reward and atones for the disappointments suffered by supporters in past Festivals. |
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He has only run one poor race in two seasons and has been crying out for three miles,the favourite won't stay and the rest of the field is pretty average,will be favourite come the day and the biggest worry is Barry holding him up until over the last
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Just can't take to this horse sorry. I'd definitely despute the 'only one poor race' comment myself. Can see the argument that he needs a trip but can just see there being one or two too good for him. It'll come down to Yanworth hitting a flat spot (he always does in his races) and then what can find after that against really good up and coming ones like Supasundae and Sam Spinner.
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I agree Yanworth is in the right race but I think life has moved on since he last raced over 3m hurdles and there are better stayer hurdlers than him. I have been all-in on Supasundae since October and he has just got better and better since. Delighted with last race winning over 2miles. I genuinely think he is the real deal and have no doubt he will stay over 3m. And for once its not pocket talking .......yet !!!!!
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