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I concur that he'll be long odds-on to ride her if she runs.
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Sincerely hope he chooses NC.
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Yep, exact same scenario as vautour, Djak, if he didn't want to ride vautour it would suggest he doesn't fancy its chances of staying in the first place and therefore wouldn't even be running. |
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agreeing with shock on previous page. |
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With the unexpected new look in the Champion Hurdle (CH), and when asked in his column Graham Cunningham 'suggested' there could be a further twist if there was a surprise supplementary entry for the likes of Yanworth - what does everyone think about that?
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Annie got to please them in her big workout yet otherwise you could get douvan or min in there too!
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Pandemonium if so; very unlikely Min as Min is too inexperienced and its current skinny price in the Supreme has been questioned by RW, and as for Douvan it has yet to win a major steeplechase race of importance and value.
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It's a funny season. I'd write nothing out at this stage. There are no world beaters in the race this year and so it's eminently feasible that a novice could throw its hat in the ring if connections think it is good enough.
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nice form boost for camping ground with lil rockafella winning today at fontwell ,camping ground rec 4lb absolutely tonked this one in the relkeel by 11 lengths and it could have been more not saying he will win the champion but has a fighting chance and he will get up the hill .
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Lil Rockefella: A very good advert for Camping Ground (CG) but I think if CG runs in the CH or good/good to soft ground CG will be a sitting duck for any with a bit of toe at the finish. Personally, I'd rather have CG in the WH on the mentioned going as I believe CG ran far too freely in the Cleeve Hurdle over 24f.
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No great surprise that Paul Nicholls has confirmed that Sam Twiston Davies will ride The New One and Nick Schofield will ride Old Guard in the Champion Hurdle.
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just like in the Christmas Hurdle, this was Nicholls making the arrangements not STD picking anything. Not saying he doesn't trust him to ride OG but that he forced him last time and now he Allows him to make the choice
 .. which is normal as he's the trainer but just saying STD not having no where near as big authority as Ruby had |
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How long will the partnership remain if the stable jockey is not allowed to choose?
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Nicholls said live on TV last Monday that the choice was completely STD and he would understand re TNO as when STD took the No1 riding spot, this was part of the deal that he could continue with TNO.
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Nichols Canyon is likely to run in the Champion Hurdle, but The World Hurdle is not totally ruled out. Mullins press day.
Think Ruby wants a ride in the World Hurdle. |
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For goodness sake WPM let Nichols Canyon (NC) take his chance in the CH - he's the only horse that has beaten Faugheen for a long, long while Mr Mullins!
How can NC run creditably in the WH if he fluffed his lines in the Neptune last year? Beyond comprehension to me! |
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Shockster are you there? Or getting the updates off bill esdailes twitter?
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Twitter Scooby, There are a few tweeters there.
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No probs, a few shocks in there. Which funny enough all changed price in paddies yesterday.
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Shockster.
Any mention bleu et rouge on your feed? Iv seen to have got every other horses on mine. |
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Nothing as yet Scooby.
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Before the season started I wanted Nichols Canyon in the World Hurdle, but it would be criminal if they were to change him now. I don't think they will though.
Re STD on the New One, Shockster is right - Nicholls said on ATR part of the agreement was Noel Fehily keeps the ride on Conti and STD keeps the ride on The New One, as part of a gentleman's agreement they had. |
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So ignore Christmas arrangements then?.. clearly Nichols allows him to choose now, back then it was not an option for STD and was forced on OG..
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All Jockeys are selfish, they need to be I guess to get the best spread of rides.
So as I said quite a lot of posts back on here, I reckon Ruby will be trying to persuade Mullins/Wylie to give NC a crack at the World Hurdle. He might not get his wish, but it was worth a few quid to see if he does! |
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Been waiting to back Nichols Canyon, but been weak on here for weeks now. Think will wait how can Mullins now think about WH, just the greedy jockey i presume?
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Wylie is bonkers if he agrees to this. And weak.
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Agree start of season Champion Hurdle was the plan. Have also backed him big odds for WH, but wont be beating Thistlecrack.
So must go to rather weak Champ Hurdle. |
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It would be rather funny if Townend nutted Ruby and Annie on the line.
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a weak CH? Send your donkey then and win it.. Jesus.. with a mare capable of running to mid 160s and receiving 7lb allowance, it'll need a horse running to 170 mark to win it, thats above average CH on paper. Depending on what happens it could be a good renewal or just average, but not weak.
WH field however looks average at best, probably the reason Ruby wants to sacrifice a non-stayer in Canyon for it, like they did with Arctic at Christmas. Last year winner has been running awful on the winter ground and who knows if he comes back to his best, while Thistlecrack has been giving beatings to 10yo Reve de Sivola and a failed experiment in Ptit Zig. If Mullins camp had any clues to NC staying he would go straight for that but they know he doesn't stay and thats most likely why he lost the Neptune last year. The only thing pushing for it is Ruby who doesn't wants Annie to get beat with him on her back, go figure. |
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Last year was an average world hurdle this year is anything but. All about 1 horse and I'll be using that quote about him only beating a 10 year old and an experiment when he's bounding clear up the hill.
Would be crazy to send nc there and I'm sure they won't. I have a cover bet but Just willie and ruby trying there luck as nothing for the race. |
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Ruby just wants NC out of the CH to make sure he doesn't look silly if it beats him on AP.
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really am struggling to find pace in this trappy champion hurdle myself which could lead to a messy race and won't help all the hold up types...
camping ground is quite a free runner but that has been over staying trips, i can see him prominent and maybe nicholls canyon but neither are quick or all out front runners so no guarantees of pure pace...much to ponder as not sure which horse it will suit in all fairness, as most of them all want pace to run at |
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bit off the cuff but if i had anything to do with the new one i'd slam a visor on him and bounce him out in front...just a thought
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Timtin rather weak is what it is imo, top 2 rated hurdlers are not running but makes it more interesting.
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Well I kept the faith with nichols after his below par run in January! And now after the last 2 weeks my confidence is sky high in the little terrier! Can't see him being out the frame in 2 weeks and I can't see the owner changing the plan now when 2 weeks ago with faugheen and artic fire still in he was all go for the champion so can't see any chance of him going world now!
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I don't get the short price on annie power. she couldn't even win the mares hurdle.
nicholas canyon should be fav. already won five grade ones. wouldn't be surprised either if hendo trained my tent or yours to come back and win. tough tough ask to win a race like this off such a break, but the trainer would love to achieve just that, would play to his inflated sense of self. |
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Timtin, this year's Champion Hurdle definitely looks a weak renewal, whether something has to run to 170 - I assume people are talking about the quality of the entire field, or at least the two or three market principles (an example is Douvan can run to a great mark in the Arkle, but it is still a weak Arkle).
We don't even know if Annie can run to a mid 160's in a 2m championship race yet after one canter in a year. Looking at the field you have a mare who is not a 2 miler, TNO is exposed as not being CH winning class (so if he wins it is weak), MTOY first run in 2 years, NC comfortably beaten by the current Champ, the 5 yo's form not holding up too much etc. Added to the fact that the first, second and fourth from the race last year are not in this renewal, neither are last years Supreme or Neptune winner. If this isn't a weak renwal, I have no idea what is. |
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Sorry: 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th from last year.
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an example is Douvan can run to a great mark in the Arkle, but it is still a weak Arkle).
How do you qualify weak? Weak in terms of strength in depth? And how do you decide that? So if the horse wins doing handsprings, it doesn't amount to much, because you already decided the race was weak going into it? surely you should hold fire until after the race, before calling it weak? daft. |