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Ibrahima Sonko
29 Oct 15 23:35
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Early thoughts.

Clearly the Irish will play a strong hand.

So far we have not seen much either side of the sea, The very good NHF horse Charbel made his debut today, much to like/dislike about his run, running over 2miles which should be short of his optimum  and not really jumping that well but showing too much class to win.

Tomorrow 30-10-15 im looking forward to Onefitzall making his debut, the Uttoxeter card often throws up a decent horse or 2.

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By:
scooby91
When: 30 Oct 15 07:47
Yorkhill
American tom
Townshend
Yanworth
Bellshill.
Do we think it's  more likely  bellshill or yorkhill goes for this?
By:
daveygfc
When: 30 Oct 15 08:40
Yorkhill according to Patrick Mullins and Bellshill Albert Bartlett.
By:
scooby91
When: 30 Oct 15 08:43
Willie says complete opposite. It starts already
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 30 Oct 15 22:44
Really liked Pengali Pavilion for the strengthening John Ferguson stable.

Think he has everything. Travels well, gears, jumps well. Form is solid thus far.

Overpriced IMO.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 31 Oct 15 17:10
Champers On Ice for me. 33/1 with B365.
By:
scooby91
When: 31 Oct 15 17:21
Champers on ice starting over 2m4 but going for bartlett according to connections on twitter.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 31 Oct 15 19:14
Cheers scooby91. I did hear different from the owner rather than his son but will follow the horse regardless.
By:
scooby91
When: 31 Oct 15 22:36
Good luck,  and will be interesting to see how he gets on in the next few days.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 01 Nov 15 11:25
Indded. Is early to be speculating really but I always loved having some early AP bets.
Best of luck for the season.
By:
scooby91
When: 01 Nov 15 16:37
Barters hill very impressive. Bellshill 1.5 lengths behind him at aintree and improved with each run all season. Archive, charbel and disko franked his Punchestown bumper win. Will be interesting to see when he comes out and if willie can get him to improve past barters hill.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 01 Nov 15 22:45
BARTERS HILL... next stop Cheltenham December meeting.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 02 Nov 15 13:49
I know the quickest way to the poorhouse and the madhouse is to start punting on Willie Mullins novice hurdlers this early in the season, but PYLONTHEPESSURE looked a classy beast in Bumpers last season.

Already won (in a fast-time) over 2m3f at Naas, before being done for speed in the Punchestown Champion Bumper, staying on into fifth.

Breeding and running style suggests 2 1/2 miles at least is his trip. Betting on here suggests the Albert Bartlett is the more likely target than the Neptune.....

....unless any of you know any different?
By:
Swardean
When: 03 Nov 15 17:50
Yanworth was pretty impressive today.   Got high standard of form already.   Goes on any ground.   Seems to like Cheltenham.  Should improve when stepped up in trip.   Top connections.

20/1 could be worth a dabble
By:
Joist
When: 03 Nov 15 19:32
I'm really keen on Yanworth. Phillip Hemmings (breeder or perhaps sold the horse on at some point?) said that Yanworth is "exceptional" according to Alan King, and King was brimming with enthusiasm for the horse in his RP stable tour, saying that he couldn't believe how well Yanworth had done over the summer, so well that he's actually gained speed. He wasn't short of speed anyway imo, he was last off the bridle in the Champion Bumper and his stride once he got into daylight really showed how well he quickened up the hill. Unfortunately Moon Racer had flown by that point. With more luck, I really think he could have been the Champion Bumper horse.

Alan King did say in his stable tour that he did not see this horse as a Supreme type. It seems today may have changed his mind based on comments after the race. I've got 25/1 for the Neptune but will be covering for the Supreme/any race; I think he has all the hallmarks of a really, really talented beast.

Yanworth Love
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 03 Nov 15 19:46
Yes I was impressed with him today (with what bits I saw through the pea soup!). Was most impressed with how much speed he had at the end of the race. Looks pretty hard to call which race he would go for, suppose allot will depend on JP's other ammo.

Would definitely want him on side though and anything around 20/1 if you knew the right race would be a great bet imo.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 03 Nov 15 20:01
Joist, didn't see his interview... What did he say? Only saw his quote which said he wasn't going to step him up in trip now, but suggested he would be in time?

Cheers
By:
Joist
When: 03 Nov 15 20:32
I've based that comment on what I read from the Sporting Life report, here:

Geraghty said on Racing UK:  "He jumped and travelled nicely. He had a little grab at the last but he kept it together and I had enough horse. He needs to brush a bit [on his jumping] but it was a nice introduction."

Alan King added: "He's a lovely horse and is a lot stronger this year.

"A second season staying in bumpers has done him the power of good.

"He seems to have developed more toe, hence the reason we have raced over two miles.

"I am not sure we will step him up yet. Maybe we will go small again and take another novice hurdle with a penalty then go step him up.

"There is no doubt he will get further but he has got the pace for two (miles) and I would not be in a rush to go further."
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 03 Nov 15 20:42
Ok cheers mate. Last sentence was key and hadn't seen that bit!
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 13 Nov 15 16:17
Impressed with Shantou Village and his hurdling.
By:
equine flew
When: 17 Nov 15 19:11
Another chance to see Yanworth tomorrow, assume he won't be cloaked in fog this time.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 17 Nov 15 20:41
Same Ibrahima. 10/1 with Hills to win any race seems fair.

Mulholland said: "He won very, very well and we were very, very happy. We still don't know how good he is.
"He'll probably come back on trials day and we'll see if he wants two-five or three miles. He might be better stepping up in trip.
"He's lazy - he only does what you ask him to do - and he's a lovely horse to have in the yard."
By:
Tucho
When: 18 Nov 15 06:09
If they think Shantou Village can do 3 miles they should go for the Albert Bartlett. He looks impressive but you're always worried there's a future Champion Hurdle contender lurking in the Neptune especially on quicker spring ground.

The big yards put their top prospects in the Neptune and the Albert Bartlett is the poor relation of the grade 1 novice hurdles. With the exception of Bob's Worth, the list of Albert Bartlett winners isn't particularly amazing and plenty of smaller trainers have won the race.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 18 Nov 15 08:34
A leftfield one but BALLYANDY won the bumper at Cheltenham on Sunday like a class horse, from a field full of previous winners.

Afterwards Twiston-Davies said it would be 50:50 whether he continues in Bumpers or goes hurdling and he's 25/1 for the Festival Bumper.

Now, loads of if's here, which should be reflected in his price and a stake but if he does go hurdling you'd have to think it would be the Neptune he'd be aimed at, given his style of racing. It's also a race where Tw-D has 'previous' (Gaelstron, Fundamentalist The New One).

He thinks the world of this horse so won't rush him, but if there's any indication hurdling is the intended route this season, a cheeky enquiry with a bookmaker or two for a price for the Neptune might be interesting.
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 18 Nov 15 22:45
Rog - I managed to have a quick chat with STD after the race on Sunday and he was very, very impressed.

Said he reminded him a bit of Fundamentalist funnily enough.
By:
duffy
When: 19 Nov 15 01:38
hopefully not from when he was riding him thoughGrin
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 19 Nov 15 08:35
Cheers Mr E

Powder dry for the moment but will keep an eye out for this one, whichever way it goes.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 20 Nov 15 14:00
Bit of a boost for Yarnworth there... Welsh Shadow didnt beat a great deal but did it very impressively.
By:
Swardean
When: 20 Nov 15 14:41
Very much so CCM.  20/1 looking ok at the moment, obviously we await the Irish  brigade
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 20 Nov 15 15:09
Just hope we pick the right race mate!
By:
delsie777
When: 20 Nov 15 22:10
Talking of the Irish brigade - Willie runs American Tom at Gowran tomorrow. He could be Ricci's Neptune horse. When I was trying to find out if it was worth backing Long Dog for this race, it was suggested that he might be stepped up to 3 miles if this American Tom is as good as they think. It's the race Douvan won last year and Willie always aims a good one at it. Although he's being backed, there is still some 20-1 available for those wishing to take a punt. It could be a morning glory horse - OR - 20-1 could look huge in March. Then as the festival looms, you can listen to the stable saying he's better than Douvan and that he's the only horse that can get Faugheen off the bridle - and all the moaners saying they can't back a 2-1 chance in such a competitive race - while you stare longingly at your antepost ticket. Or you can give it a swerve, hope it gets tonked and if it does turn out to be the next big thing, you can come on here and moan about it being 2-1.
By:
chelters16
When: 21 Nov 15 20:02
American Tom didn't impress at all in the gowran race today,looked under pressure when front 2 tipped up,the horse has an engine but didn't jump at all well being neither quick nor straight......not one to get too excited about for me,indeed would consider taking it on in most competitive races.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Nov 15 20:09
ditto

layed it today, read into his french form and it didnt excite me, all the horses in his races have not gone onto anything special.
By:
Tory
When: 22 Nov 15 19:06
Agree American Tom didn't look impressive but it was a farce of a race - they literally walked round until 3 out. Will know more next time out
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 27 Nov 15 18:16
Champers On Ice just cant hurdle at the moment, Lucky to get away with it at Newbury today.
By:
The RealDeal
When: 28 Nov 15 06:23
and Wait For Me couldn't hurdle and didn't get away with it.

Lots of schooling needed there.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 29 Nov 15 13:26
Long dog wins the Royal Bond narrowly
Owner thinks the Neptune is the race for him
By:
cryoftruth
When: 29 Nov 15 13:28
Tombstone looks top class
By:
sageform
When: 04 Dec 15 07:58
I didn't see Wait For Me live but have watched the rerun twice and his jumping was not as bad as I had expected after reading comments on here. Yes he wasn't good but I don't think he would have beaten the winner even if he had winged every flight and he beat the rest a long way.
By:
cufcno1
When: 04 Dec 15 17:18
Sorry sageform but I thought it was awful,lost 3 length at nearly every hurdle !
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