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Bit bored, so just been having a quick look at the markets for the with Min and without Min.
Altior: 9/2 vs 11/4 = 61% of odds B Dair: 13/2 vs 4/1 = 61% of odds Yorkhill: 13/2 vs 4/1 = 61% of odds Tombstone: 12/1 vs 6/1 = 50% of odds Supasundae: 16/1 vs 12/1 = 75% of odds Moon Racer: 20/1 vs 12/1 = 60% of odds Silver Concorde: 20/1 vs 16/1 = 80% of odds So if you fancy Silver Concorde or Supasundae, you're giving away much less of your odds in the without market, where backing Tombstone you're giving away the most. Similarly in the World Hurdle, the best was Martello Tower and Whisper who kept 65% and 63% of their odds in the without Thistlecrack, whereas Aux Ptits Soins, you only keep 37.5%! (16/1 vs 6/1, so don't back him w/out Thistlecrack!) |
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Impossible.
I expect most people have backed there supreme horse by now. 6.8 isn't a huge price. Very easy to over analyse when looking at the exchange markets now. |
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Exactly scooby91, expect the markets from now until final suspension day to be very very quiet!
If one is going to be pulled out or switched to another race expect the person and i mean one person in the know to hoover everything up immediately upon him or her getting the news! Meaning if anything was wrong with Altior, it wouldn't be anything at 6.8 9.8 or 16.5!!! And all the others will shorten (happens much slower admittedly but does happen) |
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Exactly scooby91, expect the markets from now until final suspension day to be very very quiet!
i disagree with this, i can see a gamble occurring here on yorkhill and a full scale shake up in the market and if walsh were to ride him, then we could be dealing with min being as big as 4/1 or 5/1...lots to go on here, i for one haven't had a bet yet |
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Ruby wants to ride Yorkhill but not at the expense of Min hence the logic says Yorkhill will run in the Neptune and PPs cut Yorkhill to 4s today for the Neptune suggesting that is the way it's going.
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what a carry on mister westsound i don't know how these boys sleep at night...thank the lord i no longer bet to much ante post
i thought he said he definitely runs here mullins, just no point in trying to form a tissue with this carry on imo |
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nah market says it runs here so a big shake up likely
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Will be V interesting who rides what if Y does end up here. Just felt the PP cut in the Neptune was significant. Min would need to be showing signs all was not well surely to have Ruby even contemplating a switch given the way he has spoken of Min all winter. One thing is certain HC if it did happen it would blow the market apart.
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I think he runs here too and can also see him going off a good bit shorter than he is at the moment.
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i think walsh will ride yorkhill myself think he is a superior tool, could be wrong but it is very significant that he is considered for this with the neptune being an option, says to me they don't think min is the complete weapon all the hype says he is, i for one don't by the hype and especially at the price we are being asked to take, yorkhill is far more solid in my book...
i found this statement at the end of the tolworth interesting in regards trip for yorkhill Yorkhill is by Presenting, so I was a little concerned about the ground. He surprised me how well he coped. Ruby arrived in plenty of time, a bit early perhaps as I was worried he might just run out of stamina as Andrew Tinkler was pressing from the bottom turn trying to make it a staying contest. We know he stays three miles from his point-to-point but he´s always shown us plenty of speed at home and the Supreme Novices´ is certainly not out of the equation at this stage. He and Min will both probably have another race before then - Willie Mullins, trainer. |
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Did someone not say RR has 1st claim on RW? Mr Mullins and Mr Walsh, wherever Bellshill or Yorkhill go they will meet either Barters Hill, Yanworth or Min so please be decisive for once and stop taking the micheal of punters. For goodness sake, it is only a horse race, an insignificant event in life!
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Altior looks rock solid to me.
Min will have to be very special to floor him. |
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Today is the confirmation: will Bellshill and/or Yorkhill be amongst them? Will Bleu Et Rouge and/or Moon Racer be there too?
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mullins will leave all his novices in I reckon
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Definitely roo. Won't learn anything today I don't think.
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I think it's shaping up to be a very weak Supreme and as such have had a dabble on Penglai Pavilion ew at 40/1 NRNB.
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With Yorkhill going for the Neptune my main bet now is on Tombstone. Small antepost win bets at 20/1 and 25/1 and just had a really decent e/w bet @ 14/1.
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