Cheltenham Festival
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
These 236 comments are related to the topic:
Min
Min
sort by:
Show
per page
Replies: 236
|
By:
I'm not disputing any of that - although your 30k is guesswork unless you know more than you're letting on - the article quotes 6,000 EUR which is completely irrelevant in the context of Mullins quote that he was n't overly expensive at all because that's what previous connections paid - also that was probably a reasonable sum at the time because nobody knew what Douvan was capable of in November 2013.
It's the sort of reporting that irks me (as you can tell!) because it links a figure with a quote when there is no link at all. Anyway, the Walk In The Park progeny are likely to be more expensive from now on - probably be oversold to the NJH and Nicholls owners! |
|
By:
Are these walk in the park progeny few and far between in uk and irl at the moment or do we have a few more to look forward to in the coming weeks? Have any others already been out and if so how have they fared? Surely min and douvan aren't the only walk in the parks around!
|
|
By:
I'm sure if we ask RR through Lydia Hislop or Matt Chapman, via twitter/email, when they'll next interview him how much his horses cost, or at least the range of his investment he'll be open about it. I'm sure it was under 30K for Min, I could be wrong of course but if he cost 6K, his former owners would've been happy to get 10-20K as it would have doubled their initial cost and with the 2 disappointing runs I doubt they would've asked for much more.
|
|
By:
Min will go off between 10/11 and 4/6 for the Supreme.
|
|
By:
|
|
By:
Cheers ReaseHeath appreciate the time and effort, interesting as you say, with a couple of potential improvers, particularly when trained by Moore.
|
|
By:
I'd be more inclined as to ask Mullin's where he sources his feed and what he adds into it myself
 |
|
By:
|
|
By:
CF was change of plan if I remember correctly,and available at much bigger than 5 not Long before the festival.
|
|
By:
yes Rease,that is the pattern emerging.
|
|
By:
There is no doubt that Min will go off shorter than he should be, but that doesn't give credence to whether he will win or not. I suspect that in the coming years if WM/RR have a horse for said race (Supreme) it will be made fav' before debut for next years Supreme and that said horses will gradually get shorter year on year out until one loses.
We see it every day on the run of the mill stuff, when one starts to strike up a string of wins in sellers, claimers, handicaps even, they might be 20/1 for first win but will be 2/1f next one then 11/10 till they lose of course dependent upon opposition but they will always get over-bet!! This is just a much longer term example and the reason why i tend to just dismiss these until the day where i see where the offers are if i decide to bet them at all. |
|
By:
Just backed altior at 7/1 before he shortens again, monster rating but just cover for min and yorkhill.
Can't believe the rating they've given yorkhill 141. Hes the winner Imo |
|
By:
Just backed altior at 7/1 before he shortens again, monster rating but just cover for min and yorkhill.
Can't believe the rating they've given yorkhill 141. Hes the winner Imo |
|
By:
Anyone who thinks Min cost 30k needs to pack it in, as do the people who think Min is already weighed in at Cheltenham.
You just know who the lugs are by their posts. |
|
By:
Regarding the sentiment about Min appearing to be weighed in already, the complacent thought that Mullins just has to turn up with his stars to do even better than last year kind of devalues his marvelous achievements in 2015. If this was the stock market I would say there may be trouble ahead for euphoric bulls. I bet the bookies will be milking the hype for all they're worth and I'll tip them to be the big winners at Cheltenham.
|
|
By:
As I said, quote today from Ladsbroke:
"It is by no means an exaggeration to say the punters have an insatiable appetite for this horse." That's as they're shortening it to 5/4. Marketing department in overdrive. |
|
By:
Min had been towards the top of the Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle betting before he'd even had a race for Mullins, but Walsh indicated they'd thought for a while that they had another talented horse on their hands.
He said: "We had him this time last year and he was working well. He won the schooling hurdle at Thurles last March and for a pretty inexperienced horse we thought it was pretty good work." |
|
By:
Earlier in the article there was this bit:
Walsh told Racing UK: "He was very good, but he's probably as short as he is owing to the reputation of the connections the last couple of years, is there much value in that? I wouldn't think so and in all honesty come the day he's probably going to be longer than he is at this minute in time. "If he was going to be a Supreme Novices' horse he was going to have to win and win the way he did. I don't think he's done anymore than Yanworth, Altior and what those sort of horses have done." |
|
By:
Autocue as someone else said on the other thread. Hes hardly going to say that he expects min to hose up on the bridle is he.
Then min dosent win and everyone's going crazy. If you've backed min, all your expecting is a decent chance of winning, Currents odds at 6/4 indicate a 40% chance of winning. As much as I wouldn't back now, id say that's not unreasonable |
|
By:
He's just saying it as it is...he ain't done no more then those he mentioned.
Think we are in for a real good Supreme this year. |
|
By:
I'll balance out Ruby's comments for Min fans - listening to the Final Furlong podcast here and Robbie McNamara says he spoke to Willie the other day and asked,
"Is Min as good as the hype and as good as he's looked?" Willie responds, "Better."  |
|
By:
I look forward to seeing if he's the best around in March.
Gonna be a cracker I tell ya!! |
|
By:
That latest FF podcast is the absolute cracker
 , have a go when you're at gym or whatever(soundcloud app or itunes podcast) https://soundcloud.com/emmet-kennedy/cheltenham-focus-novice-hurdlers liten till the end for the cut bits  |
|
By:
All Min fans will have enjoyee watching Gurteen sluice up at Navan
|
|
By:
Just watched back the Moscow Flyer Hurdles which Vautour and Douvan won. Ruby done what he liked with them - only taking it up in the straight between the last two flights. By comparison, Min done what he liked and took a fair old hold. In my opinion it was visually impressive but the two Gigginstown horses he beat are point to point winners. He was entitled to quicken away from them like that.
One thing that struck me was how poorly Vautour jumped in his win. I suppose that's why they ran him in the Deloitte whereas can we take it that by taking Min straight to Cheltenham, like Douvan, they are satisfied he has learned the trade of hurdling already? I wouldn't be rushing to back him at 13/8 though if he's going to light up like that. |
|
By:
Think they are happy enough that he'll settle in a quicker race, on better ground.
|
|
By:
is the C.HURDLER not a former p2p'er
 |
|
By:
Is Faugheen the first? I suppose to develop my point - winners of point to points do not typically turn out to be top class 2m hurdlers. Faugheen is an exception. Attribution and Ball D'Arc may also be exceptions. But I doubt it.
|
|
By:
Yet another form boost for Min - Ball D'Arc scoots up having been stuffed 10 plus lengths by Min
|
|
By:
His form is starting to look bombproof.... Can't really work out why PP are still top price and trying to get him!
|
|
By:
I wished Min had been earmarked for the Deloitte this weekend rather than the last race he won; it'd have meant his status in the market was justified or too lofty; its prices have been drifting lately, and should it be 5/2 - 7/2 it could be quite tempting on race day.
|
|
By:
Can't Catch Me at a guess id say it might be because their big first race offer will be Money Back all runners if Min wins so will be filled in on all the supposed dangers.
|
|
By:
Good judge that punkha
|
|
By:
Yes good shout punka
|
|
By:
If PP does oppose Min he is likely to drift on the day.... Altior (6/1 currently) will likely shorten.... boy, the race certainly lacks depth.
|
|
By:
Altior is the most likely as a few others just after him could go elsewhere! He is my eway for the race as looks like pretty solid eway in the race!
|
|
By:
.
|