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Back over Hurdles - miss Chelters - Aintree Hurdle imv.
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As stated S Sacre just isn't the same horse.expected him to win today but the fact that he failed means he has no chance in March
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The mugs will steam into Sire De Grugy now....again no chance in march
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I won't be, despite his win last year where in keeping with the whole season once again it fell his way with Conan pulling up early on....I will never see him any better than the crowd.
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Disagree Collector, think they can be quite content with that performance, after more than a year off the track, think it was a good comeback race in some dodgy ground against some very race fit horses with winning form this season. Looked like the winner a few out, then just tired.
Do agree that his air of invincibility has gone, but he'll still have a major chance in March. |
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Neither sire de grugy or sprinter sacre will win the Champion Chase.terrible value backing them!!
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Haven't backed either...I wait til closer to day once I've done all the trends analysis, but certainly wouldn't rule them out at this stage.
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Al Ferof has no chance .Please feel free to bring this up anytime you wish
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name the horses that have a chance then collector
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Champagne Fever NRNB 10/1 is the bet
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where can i find this 10/1 nr nobet champagne fever? its 8/1 top price andd generally 7/1 nr no bet.
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2m Bumper winner
2m Supreme winner with the 2014 champion hurdler and runner up beat 2m Arkle beat a nose |
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Was 10/1 NRNB a few weeks ago when I took it and stated on some thread on here.
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Al Ferof beat 34 lengths in Arkle trailing in 4th i believe...3 years ago....now 10yo....hmmm...
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CF 2 chase wins from 7 starts hardly screams CC winner to me....
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so yes youve backed champagne, but you're quick to tell everyone this wont win and that wont win but why dont you name the only possible winners? nothings gonna come out from the woodwork so go on name the only ones that can win it.
CF has a lot to prove over fences - doesnt have one bit of chase form that entitles him to win a CC |
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the only possible winner in ballydoyles eyes is CF I have no idea why he had to wait for nrnb if he was so confident
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Probably wont even travel over.
Stay in Ireland. Have a long rest and run in the 2m chase at the Punchestown festival. |
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Name me another horse that had the Tingle Creek winner and subsequent winner over the 2/1 fav S Sacre 5 lengths behind the last time he ran over 2m at Cheltenham?
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CF travelled like a dream in the King George when stalking the pace and to most eyes appeared just not to get home over the trip. He seemed totally at ease not making it and to my eyes all over a Ryanair horse where his proven liking for Cheltenham and better ground would come to the fore.
The horse does not have one piece of 2 mile CHASE form that says he can win a Champion Chase but was impressive over the Ryanair trip at Clonmel and again on Thursday, where even serving it up to Don Cossack 3 weeks after a pretty hard race at Kempton was totally acceptable on ground that was far more to DC liking. In summary, I can see CF sitting handy in the Ryanair, taking it up at the top of the hill and galloping all the way to victory. Forcing the pace over an inadequate trip in the CC will end in the horse running a respectable 3rd or 4th as I just cannot see him having the best of the rest (2 mile specialists) off the bit and hard at it rounding the final bend. |
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Collector - Western Warhorse
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And alleged whilst we are answering that question what has Ballydoyle got to do with it other than stable next years Derby winner?
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So yet again he bangs on about AF beaten 34 lengths in the Arkle as a reason to totally dismiss his chances in the QM,but conveniently forgets to mention the reason behind the large distance beaten.
Complete ignorance. |
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Voila we have a winner.and he's not running so name another
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Buddelia-and the reason is?
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*this years Derby winner (JFK or Ol man river)
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The form of his arkle 2nd will see him bang there,let's face it,anything could win the race !
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I just wonder if you said to someone.....
What price a horse who beat the Tingle Creek winner who then beat Sprinter Sacre the best we have seen for ages...if you said to that same person 10/1 what I wonder would they say?.... |
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You know sunshine,you just choose to forget it to back up your point. If you are going to discuss horses chances at least do it properly and don't leave important things out to suit you.
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Uxizandre is bigger price,he beat DB fair and square,and that was this season.
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Mullins said after King George "he looks like a Ryanair horse" why would he say that if he was a obvious CC winner in waiting?
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Eh?ive explained why I'm on C Fever quite clearly...
2m Bumper winner 2m Supreme winner taking care of subsequent Chanp Hurdle 1-2 2m Arkle beat a nose beating subsequent Tingle Creek and conqueror of S Sacre by 5 lengths Sorry what more do you want me to say? |
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What did Mullins say on thu night?
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He is not an obvious CC horse in waiting but his credentials are far better than 10/1 when Sacre and SDG can be quite easily discounted.
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Dodging Bullets has improved a lot this season, and could easily turn that form around.
He's on an upward curve and Champagne Fever has at best stayed the same. DB has been treated for ulcers and the tongue tie has improved him. Can't rely on races 2 and 3 years ago as a basis of backing him this year when he hasn't won a 2m chase. |
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Are you are believing what Mullins says?
Fwiw,I think CF should run in the QM,think if he front runs in that race it's his best chance of running his best race,don't think he would be good enough personally,but I do think he would run well,and it's possible on decent ground at Cheltenham he could be good enough. Race is open now. |
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**** me we're gettin there slowly but surely.....
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still waiting for the list of only possible winners...
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Well they have tried longer distances and it ain't working. Stands to reason to me to have a go at a distance he's done well at in the past at a course he's proven at. Just hope for any who back him that his so called expert connections ain't confused him too much,cos now he's gonna be ridden differently yet again!! That's IF he goes QM.
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Ive backed one horse.no more.whole field could win it obviously but C Fever 10/1 EW NRNB is my play. Won't back anything else
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