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Dunguib!! Come on, he won at odds of 2/9 beating trees in slowly run mud in Ireland.

Cousin Vinny, seriously?? He lost his debut over hurdles to some horse called Hurricane Fly. Vinny wasn't even first choice in Mullins yard, Fly was the star and fav for Supreme but missed the festival.

I don't see what listing hot pots that got beat at the festival is going to do. They're nothing at all like what Peace and Co did and a performance that had the respected timeform giving him a huge mark. The time backed up a stunning visual performance.

I fully understand not wanting to back him at the short price he is, I wouldn't either, no real upside backing a 3/1 shot antepost in Dec. That's a perfectly sound approach. But you have to admit he was stunning on his debut, he clearly looks a great talent and we will see if he can back it up next time.

Bristol De Mai very impressive destroying Karezak and Golden Doyen on UK debut.

Needs heavy ground though

About as much chance as Elvis reappearing

Chepstow is a very good indicator of Cheltenham form - very similar courses. Much more so that say, Doncaster.

Bleh - sick of betfair bickering. Every post needs a reply and it's the same ****, people dislike a horse and go at it. People like a horse and defend. What's the point in all honesty?

just had a quick look at Bristol's pedigree, not much to go on with his mum and dad but his grandad is Sadler's Wells and the damsire is April Night whose progeny included the useful Lavelle hurdler from a few years back Tocca Ferro who did most of his racing on decent ground.

I would n't profess to be an expert but there does n't appear to be any evidence just yet to suggest he would n't be effective on decent ground.

I think the Finale was quite a decent race too, some of the principles obviously underperformed but Karezak is a good yardstick and he ran OK.

Puts me in mind of when Brindisi Breeze went to the Festival a couple of years back after beating Harry Topper in a slugfest at Haydock and doing all his racing on soft (different race, different distance admittedly) - anyway if Bristol turns up at the Festival unraced on good to soft or better (pretty likely), my default assumption would be that he'd be just as effective on it in the absence of any evidence to the contrary (I get the argument that others may be more inconvenienced by soft/heavy going thus making him look better but he still looked pretty good to me).

just to be clear I'm not crabbing Peace and Co's obvious chance, merely pointing out that because the other horse is big and heavy and has won in testing conditions, it does n't necessarily follow that he won't be as effective on decent ground,though if connections are unwilling to test that theory, we may not get to find out.

I don't mind debate at all. Just when it gets to intransigence, it's repeating the same things.

I just don't understand how it's possible to knock a horse who's debut was so impressive, hurdling, distance he beat decent rivals (look how far the 3rd horse was beaten the time before giving weight to Hargam) and the time he did it in.

Knock his price, note caution etc.. that's fine. But I can't see how you can knock the horse.

Who are you collector? Assume this is your 2nd or 3rd betfair account and you didn't just join betfair this year.

The key to having this game by the balls is to see the special ones earlier than everybody else.

Well it's clear you are not new to Betfair forums and so it's just a new alias on a new account. Which means you need to change who you are.

I don't have any interest in trading insults, I'll leave that to you of you don't mind.

Dunguib was and is a perfectly good horse to highlight made mincemeat of opposition in hurdling season could have won by how far he wanted, went to cheltenham and was unplaced.

Does it matter if have been watching the game longer? Does not mean you are better at selecting winners or your opinion is more worthy.
At least CV puts forward a horse to win a race. I can't recollect you putting a horse up for any race to be honest.

The emergence of a horse like Bristol de Mai is a good example why I never wanted to back Peace and Co without knowing the opposition.

Probably won't happen, but if the ground did come up heavy on the Friday, I'd rather be able to choose between them on the day based on the conditions.

I was very impressed with him yesterday.

I accept that mate, that's why I don't go in big on novice hurdlers antepost, because most of them will never have been to Cheltenham or possibly raced on such fast ground.

My point is on Peace and Co is if his backers may regret lumping on at 3/1 with the Supreme now a viable option, and the emergence of a formidable opponent if it came up soft.

At least if you lump on Faugheen at 2's you know largely who he'll face, what their ability is, how well they hurdle under pressure etc.

whatever the pros and cons of it cv has put up and  backed his judgement and has a very decent bet at 10s , he saw something special in the performance  and acted quickly with hard cash and then put up his opinion on the horse (not many would be so bold )how many truthfully would like to be in a position with peace and co at 10s and 8s ? ,I know I would  and its not my type of race,  I have missed the boat  regarding price, but peace and co still the likeliest winner of the race at this stage imo

I respect anyone who comes on here and gives their opinion but backs it up, and makes a good argument (there are plenty of people like that on here).  There'll be plenty of times when I don't agree, but each year I've learnt quite a bit off these forums, so its just a case of choosing whose posts you take note of and whose you don't.

Has Hendo outlined any plans for Peace and Co?  Adonis or maybe the Triumph Trial on Trails Day in February?

brandyontherocks • December 28, 2014 9:11 AM GMT
Does it matter if have been watching the game longer? Does not mean you are better at selecting winners or your opinion is more worthy.
At least CV puts forward a horse to win a race. I can't recollect you putting a horse up for any race to be honest.

Missed the point terribly here. Does it matter ....No , not at all but does it mean I'm not allowed to post a point without getting gunned down (several times). Where did I say my point was more worthy? I said my point (and a few others) was worth listening to. This really was a poor post and written to suit an argument.