It wasn't an our Conor type performance, but I think that he would've won by a greater margin if he had been left to bowl along in front

I wasn't convinced by him going into the festival but although not claiming him to be a superstar and despite the narrow margin I am now a fan and think that he would be no forlorn hope in next years CH.

PAC's OR is 155 while Our Conor was given a mark of 150 for his triumph effort, i think that means that PAC has achieved highest rating post triumph ever(?), it is also better than Faugheen's mark for neptune win... so could be a crackerjack CH next year!

Peace and Co still looks so raw, he met trouble again when boxed in but he was travelling so well. Geraghty held onto him until after the last and then he dug it out. But he really is a horse they need to use his big stride and his jumping. He doesn't have a quick change of gear, he builds up to get to top speed. I think he's one who needs to be let go to the front 3 out and fully pour it on from there. I think he will improve a lot over the summer and might not be one who is at his best until he's 6yo.

He's a really class horse and I'm a huge fan. :)

sintonian 14 Mar 15 15:14 Joined: 21 Sep 04 | Topic/replies: 25,871 | Blogger: sintonian's blog
Yes CV, I mean a liar. Please answer the question about Faugheen which you have avoided..

I didn't see any question as I've not been on here during Cheltenham. I really had no idea I'd placed any bet on Faugheen, I've been told I placed it in the pub on Sunday in October. I place a lot of antepost bets and when I do the big compiling of bets in the run up to Cheltenham I often find a few bets I can't remember ever placing. It happens, I'm sure it's happened to most people.

I ask you what am I supposed to do when I find a bet I don't remember placing? I am putting all my bets up on my site, screenshots of everything prior to Cheltenham. It was only a £50 bet @ 4/1, hardly relevant to my profit now was it. He was 2/1 for a time on the day.

All the horses I sung high praise of I had 150 or 200 on.

It's quite easy for you to have a pop at me, but I cannot be more transparent than posting all my screenshots of bets prior to racing. If you want to focus on a that one bet I forgot I placed as a way to have a dig at me, there is nothing I can do about that. It was my mistake. But I'm sure a good few others respect someone putting effort in to put their entire betting season up online warts and all.

I've no interest in spending time arguing with people on here. I really do just want to discuss horse racing and improve as a bettor.

All the best Sint

I read Henderson say he won't go over fences for a few years. "He's not a 5yo chaser" he said. So he seems certain to stay over hurdles and if he doesn't go close as a 5yo in the Champion Hurdle, he may go over fences then

Possibly CCM.  If he was beaten comfortably in the Supreme I'd probably agree, but I personally put it running in the wrong race.  I know Ruby talked him up as a stayer, but imo should have been in the Supreme (didn't back him for either Chelt race by the way).

Not thinking of backing him or anything, and he could even end up in the World Hurdle next year, but I'd personally like to see him in a Champion.

Glossy 13 Mar 15 19:48 Joined: 22 Feb 09 | Topic/replies: 19,293 | Blogger: Glossy's blog
Well done CV. Still not convinced that he's the "monster" you claim him to be but he's certainly a good tool and there are plenty of good races to be run with him.

I have to agree with that a little bit. I really felt he'd be utterly top drawer in winning his next 2 races after he won at Donny. But he's only had 4 career runs in his life. Where Our Conor had come off the flat and beaten a much weaker field. Katchit had also raced on the flat.

Peace and Co will really improve for a summer given his tall frame. He also raced green in the Triumph, he always wants to go quicker than they are going, if Faugheen gave him a lead at a strong gallop he'd love it in the Champion Hurdle. For me Peace and Co just looked like a horse with an abundance of raw talent that needs to be trained and matured.

If he could settle better he could be let loose further out like I said below. Settled in for the first half of a race then let him wind it up after that as his jumping is a supreme asset.

In short don't lose the faith CV. This horse is exactly what we said he was

Sorry about that. I meant to add at the end that he hasn't had the ideal opportunities to show it in his last two races but those conditions will come again.

I think that's as far as he wants to go on that course and thus when he lets him go after the last he hasn't looked electric. I think he'd have been taking a chance letting him go after two out on that ground but I do think had he been in a position to do so you'd have seen a turn of foot at that point. If he turns up at Aintree I look forward to seeing if I'm right.

CV, post your bets up, warts and all, is no different from what other folks do on the thread in the other section, but with one huge difference, we do not have power of moderation. It's easy to have a pop at someone when they make it easy, btw. The Faugheen thing reeks to me but other people who don't bet quite so seriously won't have any qualms with it.

I'll be joining the thread in the antepost forum next season. I already stated I was doing that.

But you do accept sending a tweet is much easier than having to get on here while a price is still available on something you've just backed. While also being far more accessible to others than the thread on here. While it's also time stamped and easy to check on oddschecker if the price was correct at the time.

form of the race looks a bit suspect atm.

My slip on him is slowly going towards shredder,too many issues with horse and trainer imo.
And even if does settle better dont think he will be beating Faugheen.
Just hope wins his sure to be mickey mouse prep race, and shows up on Tuesday.

Agree on the trainer, also last years juvenile form isn't looking up to much and the run in the International was just horrid. Hopefully he'll settle better in the Contenders (if he turns up of course, ol' seven brandies could find some other reason not to run him) as it'd be good to have at least once half decent home challenger (TNO will do well to finish in the first five imo and they should have a bash at the Stayers).

Yeah I'd tend to agree, as it stands I'd be with IT in the w/o Faugheen mkt.

Contenders Hurdle been reopened on Saturday? Only race on the card with no entries so looks like it, another small field for PAC then (if it's running).

Even money for this weekend! Couldn't touch him with a barge pole after last time!

Whatever his price is at the weekend, I am hoping for a big run.

Baked him ages ago when Skybet went 14/1 for one day only.  I really want his price to dip below that so I can get rid of the bet on here.

Nothing in his form says Champion Hurdle winner to me.