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Vautour entered the mix in style today. Got a bit of the 33's after the race, but couldn't get as much on as I'd have liked. I've also backed Doctor Harper @ 33/1 to small stakes - he's entered at Cheltenham on Friday.
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Hopefully some big pointers come Sunday
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Garde La Victoire I'm on at 25/1 and topped up earlier at 16/1 given his going to be clipped tomorrow when he runs. I think he's the best novice we have seen so far and he has bags full of improvement in him when he improves his hurdling. Bigger fields with a stronger pace will suit him and allow him to settle better. Hoping for an impressive performance tomorrow when he's up and against some decent horses and giving a lot of weight to some others.
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Yeh I like him too,did not get 25,but have 16nrfb.
Quiet like horses that are trained by those that target the supreme and have had success in the race. Hes looks as good as any imo.Have also backed another that runs today at bigger odds..Diamond King,been quiet impressed with him as well. |
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Irving is another that's a good price on here and hes another that fits my trainer/supreme method.
I did back Volnay de Thaix at big odds on here as I have been very impressed with his jumping,aint beaten much in his 2 races but has done it easily,although he don't fit my method,as hes trained by Henderson who don't seem to go for the Supreme as much as others, seems to prefer a softly softly type approach which reaps benefits after their novice year. But at around 70 on here I got tempted.Hes still available at around 60,so probably done my money-aint fancied at all it seems. |
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I think Diamond King is being aimed for the Neptune, Budde, but I could be wrong.
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Diamond King was very scruffy over his hurdles today on several occasions before he put down on the jock at the last. Feeling the ground?
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Bookmakers have shortened up GLV for the Supreme. Unless it turns up soft, I'd be surprised if he is quick enough and his hurdling leaves a lot to be desired.
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His hurdling looked to have improved to me today, he pulled a little in the early part of the race but settled well. Only reason he pulled was because it was a joke pace early again. He's still only 4 and going to get better, I'd hardly be writing him off on the basis of todays run where he pulled 9lengths clear of 3rd.
Menorah lost twice over hurdles before he won the Supreme, Al Ferof lost twice, Champaigne Fever lost. I'm glad he got a good battle today against another very good horse. Hope we see him in something like the Tolworth next. |
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Ap would have won on either of them today.
As a GLV backer i was happy enough with the run and was hoping he'd drift a little. |
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"The winner looks like he's a good horse too and they've pulled away so we'll see. Whether he's good enough to run in the top novice hurdles now I don't know." P. Hobbs
Is that just post race disappointment? I think it's obvious he has the raw talent and Ballyalton is possibly being underestimated. He'd already taken care of another good horse in Oscar Rock. |
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looked like the 2 best 2m novice hurlers I have seen thus far,both very good horses.
well pleased with GLV, and lots of improvement to come. but surprised that Ballyalton is stepping up in distance to be honest,can see a normal run supreme being ideal for him. |
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Irving vs Volnay De Thaix at Ascot tomorrow. 11/4 vs 6/5.
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Have both of them antepost Sint, will be watching with great interest hoping both run well and dead heat will be fine.
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Irving won well though his victory would have been less comprehensive if the Ferguson horse hadn't fallen at the last. VDT jumped like it was blind.
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Has anyone heard anything about West Wizard ?
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Yeh, don't know what happened to VDT's jumping, had been really good till today.
Irving I thought was quiet impressive. Wide open year and happy with Irving and Garde la Victoire,not so with Volnay. |
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One who seems to escaped attention is Valseur Lido, impressive again today, jumps well.
Not sure what hes beaten,but looks to be Gigginstowns best hope at this stage. 25 available if interested. |
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I was hugely impressed by him Budde. Looks a really,really nice horse. Not sure if he is ready for a Supreme test, micht be one for next season a bit like Un Atout was supposed to be before his injury, but fcuk me he looks smart.
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Happy with Irving 34s nice position,like few others.
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Union Dues been sighted anywhere yet?
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The Tullow Tank looks a good one for the Neptune. Was the first off the bridle but kept on finding more. Fenton has said that the ground will dictate which race he goes for, but a strongly run Neptune looks right up his street.
Anyone think that 25/1 is a bit of an over reaction for Moyle Park, or is he a bridle horse? Made one mistake, but travelled very sweetly but found nothing. A lot of Willie's short priced ones are being turned over this week so there may be reasons why they are not finishing their races (Champagne Fever, Felix Yonger, Arvika, Moyle Park). |
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A lot of Willie's short priced ones are being turned over this week so there may be reasons why they are not finishing their races (Champagne Fever, Felix Yonger, Arvika, Moyle Park).
Maybe they have a bit of a bug in the yard? The top yards are not immune from them. CF was probably winded but the other 3 haven't properly finished their races.....and you can add the 3YO filly to that list who was pulled up on Boxing Day. |
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Think Moyle Park had every chance just beaten by a far superior horse albeit a stayer in the making. Champagne the only one I felt was disappointing but he has been before at this time of year. Felix? Poor ride?
I usually have a strongish fancy in this but can't see the standout horse yet. A lot of the better ones look like they want further but I just wonder if one of them may head for 2 miles at Chelt. |
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the standout performance imo is still the liquidator by some way...
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Looks as good as Moyle Park is to me. Just because he was sent of favourite it doesn't mean he should have won. Finishing 3rd was still a decent run. No problems in the yard imo. He still won the big handicap chase with Rockaboya.
Irving still looks pretty solid at the moment. |
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I really like valseur lido, both starts very impressive. jumps really well, very natural. looks to have a real turn of foot aswell. Why is he still 25/1...
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Moyle Park was disappointing having looked to be cruising turning in. Won't rip my ticket up just yet but obviousoly needs to bounce back next time.
Have to say The Tullow Tank really reminds me of Brave Inca - not flashy and first of the bridle but great engine and attitude- I've taken the 16/1 nrfb with BetVic for the Supreme. |
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Tolworth looks like it might be an interesting trial on Saturday....they won't all stand their ground of course. WPM has 3 entered, which probably means none will pitch up!
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Think Ballyalton needs to go back to 2m,was surprised they stepped him up to be honest.
Big price for Supreme on here. |
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X rated form imo budd and I'd ignore it. They went an absolute crawl for 2 miles, lousy conditions and they were virtually all in with a chance turning in. Ballyalton drifted like a barge before the race, so he was probably nowhere near his best today. Having said that, Oscar Rock hardly franked his Newcastle form at Newbury.
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Yeh,the form I would take note of re Ballyalton is his run against Garde La Victoire over 2m.
Although to be fair todays run did look that of a non stayer for a Cheltenham race over 2 and a half. Think that race with OR lto ended up with too many horses taking each other on and the 2 off the pace ended up 1st and 2nd. OR a lot better than that imo. |
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I was a real Oscar Rock believer at the start of the season but I'm not sure I can forgive 2 average runs at this stage of the season. I had planned to shape my novice hurdle betting for the season around the form lines of OR and West Wizard and although there has been some success e.g. The Skyfarmer, Legacy Gold etc; the form doesn't look as strong as thought it was and I'll be looking elsewhere come March I feel.
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the liquidator is my only bet so far and im hoping it stays that way
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Backed him as well Alleged for Supreme, also for Neptune @40s before he jumped flight this season. Entered Saturday at Sandown v Irving my other bet, but imagine meeting in doubt following all the rain down here? Would be informative race as Mullins few entered not sure any will show though?
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I hope he bypasses it and waits for another opportunity on better ground than there is now, a tough slog through the mud is not what is needed believe me
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Glossy,
I would not give up on OR mate,and I think that form with Ballyalton could look pretty good in time. |
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Tempted to have an eachway bet on Irving now that he missed the Tolworth. 12/1 is tops, all 14's gone.
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Owner Henry Ponsonby is dreaming of Cheltenham Festival glory with his two exciting Flat performers Tiger Cliff and First Mohican.
Last year's Ebor winner Tiger Cliff was last seen finishing a creditable eighth in the Cesarewitch at Newmarket in October, while First Mohican won four times on the level and was also placed in Group Three company in France. Both horses have since switched from Lady Cecil's yard to the care of leading National Hunt trainer Alan King. The Barbury Castle handler has closed his yard for a short period, with a number of horses suffering from a bug, but Ponsonby hopes to see his duo staking a claim for a place at Cheltenham in the not-too-distant future. Ponsonby said: "Alan King has shut up shop for the time being, so I don't expect to see Tiger Cliff or First Mohican out until the end of this month or early February. "Both horses have schooled very well. We have no complaints in that department. They are both really enjoying their jumping. "Tiger Cliff will have entries in the Supreme Novices' Hurdle and the Neptune, and I think First Mohican will only be entered for the Supreme." |
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Much better from Diamond King today,not given up hope I will get a run at the festival.
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