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By:
Fallen Angel
When: 20 Jan 14 22:48
Indeed, not sure how many horses Edward Oconner has but surely can't have many better. Might only be one horse in your lifetime with any grade 1 potential. Anything could happen in future, horse might not turn out to be any good, get injured etc could get £20k for finishing 3rd in the Irish Champion, no brainer. However sure WM will manage to convince otherwise. Got to be better than running thousand stars who they know can't beat HF if he started tonight
By:
The Sawyer
When: 21 Jan 14 08:51
Annie Power and UDS both entered for Sundays Irish Champion
By:
sintonian
When: 21 Jan 14 08:56
Faux entries I suspect.
By:
Fallen Angel
When: 21 Jan 14 11:34
Not even priced up by the conventional bookmakers. Let them run Devil
By:
buddeliea
When: 21 Jan 14 12:08
probably in case HF has a setback this week.
I doubt very much if he intends running either of them.
By:
The Sawyer
When: 21 Jan 14 12:23
WP hasn't mentioned either of them in his HF piece in the RP today so that probably means they will all run Grin
By:
Fallen Angel
When: 21 Jan 14 16:44
Would love a shock racing headline, WM lets all stable stars have their chance to shine in Irish Champion showdown! Rather than Hurricane fly to run against 2 rivals in large anti-climax
By:
Graeme83
When: 21 Jan 14 16:48
Disagree there Fallen. I think a renewal is a good race for folks who like racing. Jezki was blocked, Conor wasn't tuned up, and the Fly ran a good race. It sure beats him taking on a thousand stars for certain.
By:
buddeliea
When: 21 Jan 14 17:08
And that renewal would be much more exciting with Annie Power and the completely unexposed UDS.
Wonder if we have ever had exactly the same field for big hurdle races twice on the trot??
Very much doubt it.
By:
Slabster
When: 21 Jan 14 17:34
And we won't this time either Budd, no Thousand Stars Mischief
By:
buddeliea
When: 21 Jan 14 17:42
Blimey,that's a shock.
By:
SoYouThink
When: 21 Jan 14 22:29
I've a funny feeling we'll lose one of the big names post this race this weekend. A below part performance from one of them will lead to them being ruled out of the CH itself. I don't think Jezki and Our Conor can afford another defeat and expect to go to Cheltenham with a realistic chance.
By:
ACStafford
When: 21 Jan 14 22:57
Even if Jezki and Our Conor are beaten again, they'll still have place claims at the Festival. They've probably got more chance of beating him at Cheltenham anyway.
By:
tomdeane
When: 21 Jan 14 22:57
I agree ^
By:
SoYouThink
When: 22 Jan 14 21:57
There's very little being made of The New One's jumping which I think is a quite a big concern for his supporters. I watched back some of his races and even leaving the obvious blunders aside, he appears very fiddly at a lot of his hurdles when compared to his rivals. Then there are the blunders which probably cost him the Christmas Hurdle, provided one or two anxious moments in the Bula and he was outjumped by everything around him at the second last in the Neptune. In the Aintree Hurdle he had a bad scare at the second. In  my opinion all of these would be race ending mistakes in a CH. Of the leading 5 or 6 in the market, his hurdling is the worst (in my opinion). Not sure how am I overstating this as really it's been an issue covered in too much depth in this or any of the CH threads.
By:
Tory
When: 22 Jan 14 22:32
This was covered in depth in the racing post recently. There was a big feature on the importance of slick hurdling in the CH. Unsurprisingly HF was by far the best. I think jezki was worst with MTOY next! TNO on mistakes per 100 hurdles or whatever it was wasn't actually that bad!!

Intake the view that whilst MTOY might be a bit 'flicky' at his hurdles, TNO mistakes are worse and far more pronounced. I don't fancy him for the CH on this basis and also the fact that he won't have run since Xmas.

HF and MTOY having bar far the best preps IMO. Jezki been on the go too long and OC had a setback
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 22 Jan 14 22:49
Could have wrote Bobs Worth off for last years gold cup on that theory
By:
Autocue
When: 22 Jan 14 23:31
Jezki is a far slicker hurler than TNO. He just needs to iron out the odd mistake. TNO is clumsy at times and has been a false favourite for too long.
By:
Autocue
When: 22 Jan 14 23:32
Hurler lol. Fecking iPhone unfriendly site.
By:
duffy
When: 25 Jan 14 16:40
Imagine this for a moment

HF......MTOY's.......OC.....JEZ......TNO......UDS.......AP.....WOW.!!!
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 25 Jan 14 16:44
is wow= wock on wuby?
By:
duffy
When: 25 Jan 14 16:54
LaughLaugh
By:
duffy
When: 25 Jan 14 16:56
that is very good brandy...give yourself a well earned pat on the back......incidentally, if they don't find a race for him soon, it bloody well might be himGrin
By:
CoupleBob
When: 26 Jan 14 10:46
With the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if ROR skips Cheltenham
By:
sintonian
When: 26 Jan 14 12:02
Tory, Rock On Ruby went straight from the Xmas Hurdle to Cheltenham and won.

On another point, it was a shame Cockney Sparrow fell 2 out yesterday as it would have given us a close line on her ability matched to MTOY. I reckon she would have beat her by 4 lengths +
By:
wellchief
When: 26 Jan 14 12:13
is wow = wock on wuby?

Laugh Brilliant!  Are you the singing roadsweeper from Only Fools and Horses?

Not a penalty kick for Hurricane Fly today.  Not had the ideal prep with having a bruised foot in the week, and Our Conor will strip fitter for his run.  A better ride from McCoy will put Jezki into play as well.

If the Fly does get beat today it won't be the end of the world; I'm sure connections will point to the bruised foot, but I'm hoping his class will pull him through.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 26 Jan 14 13:05
God I must be getting very cynical in my old age. Is it really out of the question that a concerted effort is being made to get Richi to opt for the longer event with Annie Power? Imagine The Fly wins today and Mullins and Ruby start jabbering on about how much easier it would have been without this "bruised" foot. I always worry when trainers willingly hand out "free" information. Laugh
By:
ashleigh
When: 26 Jan 14 14:48
only had 1 anti-post bet, hurricane fly at 7/1 and still happy with it.Excited
By:
Ramruma
When: 26 Jan 14 15:07
@Eeternaloptimist -- God I must be getting very cynical in my old age. Is it really out of the question that a concerted effort is being made to get Richi to opt for the longer event with Annie Power? Imagine The Fly wins today and Mullins and Ruby start jabbering on about how much easier it would have been without this "bruised" foot. I always worry when trainers willingly hand out "free" information.

The trouble with your conspiracy theory is it works just as well the other way round -- that Willie & Ruby are trying to entice Ricci into running Annie Power in the Champion Hurdle by demonstrating Hurricane Fly is beatable.
By:
Tory
When: 26 Jan 14 15:16
I know ROR did Sint but I also think he was the first since 1993 not to have a prep run in the same calendar year
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 26 Jan 14 15:28
The other protagonists for Chamionship races make all sorts of excuses as to why they don't deliver. The Fly missed the last today against an improved Our Connor but still won going away. A proper horse and we see very few like him.
By:
duffy
When: 26 Jan 14 15:52
wellchief 26 Jan 14 12:13 
is wow = wock on wuby?

Laugh Brilliant!  Are you the singing roadsweeper from Only Fools and Horses?


Tony Angelino....pure classLaugh
By:
Ballydoyle
When: 26 Jan 14 16:07
I'm confident that my two The New One and Tent will take care of Our Conor and Jezki but The Fly is definitely he one to beat. Top performance today
By:
duffy
When: 26 Jan 14 16:11
They want to put jezki back for the aintree hurdle...that's twice now he has lacked the initial kick to go with them after having every chance to do so.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 26 Jan 14 16:38
hurricane fly is a great champion and will be hard to beat but our conor has proved he is up there with the very best of the contenders ,he was weak in the betting and had a winning chance at the last where he was beaten by a multi grade 1 winner who is unbeaten at the course ,the drift tells me that there is a fair bit more to come . an end to end gallop will suit this horse more than the race today and he goes there with a very realistic chance .
By:
cmacedin
When: 26 Jan 14 16:54
Don't think we saw the winner of the Cheltenham Champion Hurdle today. Captain Cee Bee only beaten a couple of lengths.he would not get close to MTOY or TNO.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 26 Jan 14 17:04
don't think you can use ccb as a yardstick tbh ,how far was he beaten last time ? anyone thinking  ccb has improved and  the others regressed ?
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 26 Jan 14 17:05
Ramruna

Reverse logic only works if it is logical. Laugh Why on earth would Walsh want Annie Power running in the champion when he's on The Fly?
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 26 Jan 14 17:07
The Fly has never been beaten at Leopardstown but they sure are getting closer. Is he better at Cheltenham than Leopardstown? I don't think he is. I'm not sure how they can cut him after that performance?
By:
buddeliea
When: 26 Jan 14 17:08
Anyway If Ricci wants AP in the CH,it wont matter what walsh wants!!
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