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By:
rogerthebutler
When: 24 Feb 13 16:42
Graeme83
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Replies: 7770 23 Feb 13 21:56   
Roger ive already sorted you out in mild terms on your garabge Dynaste thread.


Different person.

Roger The Butler not rogerthebutler.

Carry on........
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 24 Feb 13 16:57
Another dry day. We havn't had any significant rain here for a couple of weeks now.
By:
judorick
When: 24 Feb 13 17:49
and there is none forecast before Tuesday 5th March. Depending on the forecast for that week we can expect the taps to go on to change it to good to soft...

if they were clever they would measure the amount draining and only add that much back but they won't because of evaporation, run off, droplets blowing away etc... ho hum plus ca change
By:
Mister Westsound
When: 24 Feb 13 19:53
I cant see why he would consider watering before next weekend and by then we should have a better idea what rain is coming and when.  No need for tap talk this week.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 24 Feb 13 20:04
Because it makes him horny
By:
judorick
When: 24 Feb 13 21:19
nobody mentioned this week, from Tuesday March 5th they might start watering when they have the rain forecast for that week

as they don't have reliable forecasts that far ahead they won't be turning on the taps til then, clearly if there is rain expected they won't turn them on
By:
harry callaghan
When: 26 Feb 13 19:43
going good soft soft in places...not drying out that fast maybe no need for claisse to get his hose pipe out...

with rain all winter i'll bet he is itching to get his watering can outGrin
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 26 Feb 13 22:03
Little bits of drizzle this last couple of days and cold but no rainfall of any significance due before the start of next week. No change to the forecast but I suspect it is now fsirly accurate up to Sunday 2nd.
By:
judorick
When: 27 Feb 13 13:28
CHELTENHAM clerk of the course Simon Claisse on Tuesday cast doubt on the likelihood of having to water before the festival after a revised weather forecast predicted rain in the lead-up to the meeting.

Claisse said the rate the track was drying out had slowed and that the going remained a mix of soft and good to soft on the Old, New and Cross Country course.

"I had an update yesterday from John Kettley, who is suggesting that from Thursday of next week until the beginning of the festival there will be rain," he said.

"His range was between 12 and 15mm, more on the Saturday, Sunday and Monday than on the Thursday and Friday. It's still a long way out to be certain, but on the basis of that forecast I could confidently rule out watering."
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 27 Feb 13 13:40
If they don't do anything then there will be good patches by next week, so half an inch on Saturday, Sunday amd Monday between them will be just dandy.
By:
judorick
When: 27 Feb 13 13:47
should be lovely natural ground, hopefully drying up by the end of the week just in time for SDC to use his electric turn of foot up the hill
By:
Arklearkle
When: 28 Feb 13 15:42
The going will be determined by what happens the four or five days before the Tuesday.
By:
judorick
When: 28 Feb 13 17:51
been steady suppot in the Champion Market for Bino, Grandouet and Cinders and Ashes

this could be related to the decision not to water
By:
alleged22
When: 28 Feb 13 17:53
isnt the decision not to water based on the fact its going to rain so no need????
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 28 Feb 13 18:07
Lovely day today.

Bright and a few degrees warmer than of late.

Not a drop of rain.
By:
judorick
When: 28 Feb 13 18:10
they are predicting 15 mm between now and the opening day, that is not much
By:
TINnotaTON
When: 28 Feb 13 18:34
maybe, but if it arrives as predicted in the 3/4 days leading up to the start of the festival that will be enough. at least it will be natural rainfall rather than claise turning on the taps.
By:
judorick
When: 01 Mar 13 14:11
'no plans to water'

http://www.crunchsports.com/category/Horse-Racing/Latest-Cheltenham-going-ahead-of-the-2013-Cheltenham-Festival-201302280016/
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 01 Mar 13 14:13
Rain in varying amounts due Thursday-Sunday. Ground should be perfect.
By:
roobuck
When: 01 Mar 13 14:53
"At the moment, each track is good to soft, soft in places. But as we move into next week we lose the frosts and start to see temperatures climbing."

He added: "I’ve had an update from weatherman John Kettley and between next Thursday and the start of the first race on March 12th, a range of between 15 and 18millimetres of rain is forecast. Most of that is likely to come on the Saturday, Sunday and Monday rather than the Thursday and Friday.


If all of the above was accurate about current ground, and the forecast rain occurred as indicated, I think they'll start Tuesday on 'soft'.
By:
judorick
When: 01 Mar 13 14:58
18 mm over the next 11 days won't make it go soft

we'll see what the going is like from the time of the Supreme, good to soft based on time I will go for
By:
judorick
When: 01 Mar 13 15:05
but saying that soft suits me nicely for the first day do that might turn out alright
By:
roobuck
When: 01 Mar 13 15:10
judo, if that 18mm was spread over the 11 days then no it won't. If all in last 3 days before then yes it will....imo of course. Still soft in places after essentially 3 weeks of no rain
By:
tinkler
When: 01 Mar 13 15:16
Unless they get a warm spell cann't see the track drying out much. Looks for sure to be the slowest ground the festival has started
on since at least since 2010 and possibly quite a bit longer. If they get significant rain on the monday the going desciption could
include heavy in places.
By:
roobuck
When: 01 Mar 13 15:18
Don't say that tinkler - there are people on here that will have heart failure for even suggesting it Grin
By:
tinkler
When: 01 Mar 13 15:24
Apologies to those that have had heart failure due to "heavy" being mentioned.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 01 Mar 13 15:36
Damn the horses!

Don't want to get any mud on the brogues and cavalry twillsHappy
By:
unclepuncle
When: 01 Mar 13 16:27
The going is currently good to soft and soft. Turftrax map from Wednesday here:

http://maps.turftrax.co.uk/latestgoingreport.asp?course=cheltenham

It will dry up to good to soft by Tuesday / Wednesday but there is rain forecast from then on including heavy rain on Friday/Saturday. Surely it will go back to soft?

I've just lumped on the max allowed at 7/2 with Hills and 10/3 with Paddy and covered stake on good to soft @ 8/11 with Corals.
Just praying it doesn't go heavy.Shocked
By:
kelami
When: 01 Mar 13 16:45
John Kettley couldn't forecast whats going to happen in the next half hour let alone 10 days time!
By:
judorick
When: 01 Mar 13 16:48
15 to 18 mm is not heavy rain, I've read the weather and it's steady at most don't forget that's over Thursday to Monday so no more than 3 or 4 mm a day and you've got evaporation, wind effect, run off and the drainage system

never gonna be heavy for a start, will be beautiful jumping ground, certainly better than the over watered false going we have had for years
By:
unclepuncle
When: 01 Mar 13 17:02
Metcheck and theweatheroutlook both predict over half an inch (15mm or so) on the Friday with further showers before and after.
BBC site suggests light rain and showers from Thursday onwards and the Metoffice suggests light rain followed by heavier.

As long as the forecasts are correct like that soft looks odds on, certainly not 7/2.

Some sites show rain everyday from Tuesday next week all the way through to and during the meeting (even a chance of snow during the meeting) which is why I worry it might even go hevay.
By:
roobuck
When: 01 Mar 13 17:06
John Kettley couldn't forecast whats going to happen in the next half hour let alone 10 days time!

Fair point, no rain fallen yet.

judo, considering we've had no rain for the best part of three weeks, and with all this evaporation, wind effect, run and drainage there is still 'soft' in the going. If we do get 18mm in 4 days I'm sure it'll change the going. Don't want soft ground but its a real possibility if that rain arrives. We could get less, then again we might get more
By:
tinkler
When: 01 Mar 13 17:30
Agree Roo .Track not draining very well ,if they get 18mm should go soft , much more and heavy possibility. Taken the 7/2 it to start
on soft bit more than a coverbet that it will start on heavy at 14/1.
By:
tinkler
When: 01 Mar 13 17:53
Good spot with the 7/2 Uncle. Thought it was 2/1 soft.
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 01 Mar 13 19:13
No rain due before next Wednesday night at the earliest. There will be good patches after another week with no rain.
By:
judorick
When: 01 Mar 13 20:01
all going to come down to how much rain they get, how much wind and sun and how close to the meeting it falls

Everything will become clear as to the state of the going from the times of the Supreme and Arkle - 0-8s above standard good, 8 to 20 above good/soft, 20 to 40 soft, 40+ heavy approx
By:
unclepuncle
When: 02 Mar 13 13:47
Much to my annoyance all the forecasts have changed since yesterday afternoon. Now all sites are just showing showery rain on Thurs-Sat rather than the deluge that some suggested might be happening on Friday.

I'd say good to soft is now a 1/100 chance.
By:
festivalfanatic
When: 02 Mar 13 13:59
Beautiful sunny spring day in Cheltenham today. Local forecast was dull and cloudy!
By:
roobuck
When: 02 Mar 13 14:20
Not worth worrying about - just lets see what happens. Seems the experts know as little as everyone else if they change their forecast so much in 24 hours!
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 02 Mar 13 17:47
Warming up next week.

.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2286925/UK-Weather-Get-ready-16C-highs-balmy-spring-weather-arrives-warm-start-week.html
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