Cheltenham Festival
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"I have some exciting prospects as we start thinking of the big spring festivals and if I had to single out one it would be "The Don" who has any amount of potential. Forget his last run - he is potentially top class". 42/1 on here for the Neptune. 16/1 best with the bookies.
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Who said that and where?
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Gordon Elliott in this week's Wekkender.
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Yes but he doesn't say anything about heading to Cheltenham does he? Said spring festivals. So Fairyhouse and Punchestown are 2 of those
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Yes but he doesn't say anything about heading to Cheltenham does he? Said spring festivals. So Fairyhouse and Punchestown are 2 of those
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You've also only posted one of the two comments regarding The Don and have omitted the one where he says its possible they won't take him to Cheltenham this year.
Don't get me wrong, I really want to see him in the Neptune as think he's a great horse and have money on him, but surely if you're gonna start making encouraging comments you should paint the whole picture. |
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Well you don't want to put that comment in if you're trying to lay off some of your bet. Always be wary of what people post on this forum.
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I was responding to BJG above, who reproduced the less encouraging part of the Weekender piece above. I don't think "may not line up....at Cheltenham" is discouraging, but the comment I reproduced is certainly positive in my view. Yes, of course he may miss Cheltenham. If he runs next time like he ran last time, there would be little point. However, what comes across is that Elliott will run him again soon, that he dismisses his last run, and that all possibilities are still open. That's all his supporters can ask for at present. Far from laying anything off, I'm topping up regularly at the current odds.
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Wasn't talking about you in particular cyclops. Forum quotes in general
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Fair enough. As one who was "on board" from the beginning of this thread, do you not think the current odds on here are attractive, balancing all the various factors? We might look back one day and gasp at 44/1, eight weeks before the Festival.
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Fair do's cyclops, no offence intended.
If he runs then yeah, 44/1 is massive especially as he was top rated bumper horse last year. The new one is way way way too short |
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I can't for the life of me accept that his current odds are attractive, I'd say he's about 8/1 to even run at Cheltenham.
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He's another Aiteen Thirtythree. Put it this way, if he races again in Ireland this season, he won't be beating any of the bigger names. He will be put away, because they 'retain faith in him'. He will win a handicap at Craqggy Island in 2015 off a handicap mark of 142. The trainer will say it was always the target because they always thought alot of him, and the token village idiot with one tooth will smile and say 'the whole village was on it', before taking a stack of tenners out of his anorak. That's Irish racing in a nutshell.
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This Graeme chap is the cliche clueless betfair forum poster.
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Runs this weekend against a load of last time out winners.
If he hoses up maybe Cheltenham might come back on the agenda but even then I expect them to go Albert Bartlett and avoid Pont Alexandre. I'll certainly be ready to lay off my Neptune bet if he wins and shortens up on here. |
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You seriously think they'll go from 2m to 3m?? Can't see it myself. Will either be Neptune or no festival
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Maybe if the Don looks good on Sunday, it will be Pont running for cover to the Albert Bartlett!
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It won't cos Don isn't entered in the AB. Supreme and Neptune are his entries, and I still can't see him running in the Supreme. Sunday looks a perfect test to see if my, and others, faith in him is justifed. Very solid opposition, but probably not superstars.
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Only just realised my long range Supreme Novices antepost bet Ned Buntline runs in the same race - thought they would have run him in the Delloite next week as he seems much better going left handed.
Also gutted that they have put McCoy up instead of Paul Carberry who is much better suited to the horses quiet style. At least one of my Cheltenham dreams will be over tomorrow that's for sure, and quite possibly both.  |
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Interesting that McCoy is taking the ride on Ned on Sunday. The horse will get a very different ride to what he's had from Carberry. I'm assuming this is range finding.
Don Cossack is fairly highly rated and its clear that the Elliot wants to get a run into the horse (holds 4 entries over the next week). The race in recent years has been pretty good. Whoever wins will go to the festival with a chance, so long as the 'Heavy'..aint too Heavy, as distorts the value of the race. Quite possible that McCoy may hop off My Tent or Yours if he wins on Ned......of whom Meade doesn't think he'll stay much more than 2m (hence no Deloitte) |
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clearly wants further than 2 miles.
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03 Feb 13 01:08 Interesting that McCoy is taking the ride on Ned on Sunday. The horse will get a very different ride to what he's had from Carberry. I'm assuming this is range finding. Quite possible that McCoy may hop off My Tent or Yours if he wins on Ned......of whom Meade doesn't think he'll stay much more than 2m (hence no Deloitte) I agree about the extra 2f of the Delloite but Ned's one bad run was going right handed hence my slight concern. TBH I'm more concerned about McCoy. Hopefully one or other of my selections wins impressively so I can at least have a live one for Cheltenham. Do people think it might be worth having a bet on Don for the Supreme before today (70 on here)? If he wins impressively today I don't see why they would step him up 5f (given his one bad run came over 2m4f and he'd have to take on the horse that stuffed him). |
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Another Ned Buntline antepost backer hoping for a big run today
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"Do people think it might be worth having a bet on Don for the Supreme before today (70 on here)? If he wins impressively today I don't see why they would step him up 5f (given his one bad run came over 2m4f and he'd have to take on the horse that stuffed him). "
No chance |
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Decent run. But don't think he's going to win a Neptune unfortunately
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Got to agree with u CCM.
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Hard to work out a race when it's run on such soft ground.
On good ground he could be much better. |
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Sorry that comment is just stating the plain obvious isnt it?
You know what i mean though. |
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wont be going to cheltenham imo, but he would have won today if getting a better ride, it looked like davy russell was going to fall off the back when he was being driven out, best jockey won the race
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Just not as good a horse as the hype says, cant blame the jockey the other horse battled better.
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Don't think Russell did anything wrong to be honest. Best horse won on the day. I wouldn't give up on Ned Buntline either, traveled like the best horse in the race, given better ground he could still be high class.
On another note he fairly rode McCoy to sleep in the first. |
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i never believed the hype regarding this horse anyway
 sorry slabster got to disagree with ya imo the best horse didnt win the race, the best jockey did, totally agree with your comment regading ned though |
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So whih was the best horse? surely your not saying swop the jockey swop the result? |
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im not one to normally criticise jockeys and i like DR a lot, but yes if ruby was on the don the horse would have won, this is of course my opinion
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Spec savers is open till 4 my friend
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did you not think DR was untidy after the last? he was very far back on the horse
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some of the pocket talking on here is amazing...russell had the horse in a perfect spot the whole way then through the kitchen sink at the horse...the animal itself just didn't have it and if anything the winner was going away at the finish...although a nice horse I'd say he just isn't as good as some thought he was...seems to just find the same pace off the bridle but to criticise the jockey after throwing everything he had at the creature i think is unfair and rash to say the least
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totally agree,winner best horse in the race,and well deserved,others all had their chance if good enough - they werent.
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pocket talking??? not had a bet harry, just got back from kids football, switch tv on watch race, give opinion on said horse and ride to said horse simples
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While I never thought he would be a Festival winner I did think he'd be capable of winning races like today. He just hasn't improved over hurdles enough for me and the rest are catching him up and in Mozoltovs case overtaking him. The first 3 home are nice horses but I can't see them being in the top class of their divisions.
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