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he was still keen up the run in. just unreal
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cannot back this will not make it up the hill at cheltenham has some good horses to beat on the day and favourites have a bad record in the arkle its just a flat track bully
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Wont make it up the hill
This will fly up the Chelt hill quicker than Jack & Jill on the magic pill Barry will be 5 clear turning for home, the mean lean sprinter sacre machine, nodding his head at the applauding crowd..Great scenes.. |
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we dont know though do we,hes only ran once off a flat track and failed.
Flat track bully may be right,i suspect it aint but until SS performs against a class field at Cheltenham we wont know for definite. As far as i recall hes been off the bridle once and found not a lot.For me personally i want to see him find plenty when needed,unless of course he never needs to!! Then hes Pegasus,but for the moment still has a bit to prove. |
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He was ridden after the bend in the supreme and made a big mistake at the last.
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i can almost hear the roar of the crowd as SS takes 6 lengths out of the field approaching the second last, the cheers that are heard as he jumps the last superbly by 5 lengths, the groans as he treads water in the final 100 yards and AF and PC fight out the finish....
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I can't believe the hype over this horse,racing post going overboard as well.
Lots of stats against ss winning the arkle. Fill your boots laying this one |
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Mooono
18 Feb 12 02:15 Joined: 03 Aug 10 | Topic/replies: 1,726 | Blogger: Mooono's blog Wont make it up the hill This will fly up the Chelt hill quicker than Jack & Jill on the magic pill Laugh Barry will be 5 clear turning for home, the mean lean sprinter sacre machine, nodding his head at the applauding crowd..Great scenes..Brilliant ![]() |
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Since when has a horse finishing 3rd in a Grade 1 Hurdle at the Cheltenham festival been deemed as a failure ? Just an absurd comment.
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The question is as Buddeliea said above.
Is this a bridle horse?? beating small runner fields. Some may say Dunguib but he sure jumps better than Dunguib. Fascinating scenario...i do think his jumping may be suspect when Barry has to put him midfield behind a wall of horses going a fast clip. |
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pffft
the question really is: how much faster than he has gone so far can he go? his jumping has been electric so far and I won't be worrying about that |
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That is a big question. But if he jumps and travels like he did yesterday - and let's not forget French Opera is a multiple Grade 2 winning horse - will anything get him off the bridle in the Arkle? I'd expect so, but I'm not sure.
Something else I might be imagining - I think Geraghty gave him an inch or two of rein in the last half furlong yesterday and he appeared to shoot off. |
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stront seriously he could have shot 10 clear after jumping the last
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Rubyisgod - as novices, I would have the more or less the same fear about any of them jumping. Menorah looks the worst, Al F or Sprinter look maybe the most solid jumpers, but they are novices, the festival could make or break them, lots of solid horses have fallen as a novice, we will see, but no evidence thus far to worry me.
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plus he's unlikely to be midfield behind a wall of horses in the Arkle 'cos there won't be that many runners - only 27 entries now and a lot of those have alternative engagements.
In fact most of the top two mile chases he's likely to contest next season will probably have single figure no. of runners. Plus he likes to bowl along in front. But most of all,as judo states, there have been no signs whatsoever of jumping frailties so far. |
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to even compare him dunguibs style of racing is just silly.
he wont even need to get up the hill properly.... |
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That was my impression Judo. I thought he won as he liked yesterday, but I respect the opinion of those who think he might not find much off the bridle in a hard race.
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*(by which I mean it remains to be proven)
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my mistake - two of 27 entries already listed as non-runners in Arkle.
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10 runners on the day max imo
SS PC AF CC Men Blakc 3 rags |
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11/8 would be a good price in that case
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It is not beyond the realms of possibility that either AF, or PC will go for the Jewson. I suspect McCain had a reality check on Friday after his meanderings post Kempton and Ruby had a good view, albeit from a distance.
What price will SS be then? |
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Mullins and Nicholls got 9 entries between 'em.
Perhaps they are planning to surround Sprinter in one of those manoeuvres you see in US police car chases. Nicholls has booked OJ Simpson for the ride on Pacha Du Plodder (I might have spelt that wrong). |
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Nice one Rease
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As impressive as he looks, I make it a policy of mine not to back really short price favourites in the championship novice chases at the festival. It would particularly worry me that he wouldn't settle, and I think this could be a problem in the Arkle; going off too fast could lead to him setting the race up for a stayer like Al Ferof (for the second year running). He's the most likely winner, but too short in my eyes.
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no one says you have to have a bet at all you know
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I think SS is going to be superstar, but on the day i will probably back Al Ferof ew......
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Your observations are perfectly valid ACF but you have already anwered your own question. This thread isn't about value!
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ACS - how is Punjabi? I assume one and the same... (?)
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No bet race for me I expect - the one I've backed already looks a NR. I'm hoping to witness the emergence of a superstar.
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Sorry R Carver, I don't follow?
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Mistaken identity, my apologies.
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Truth of the matter is that some hope that SS won't win because they have tasty AP vouchers on others and try to justify their positions. On the form displayed over fences thus far, you would be a candidate for the mad house if you backed anything else to beat him now - there is simply no logical basis for doing so on the evidence thus far. This observation obviously considers win options only.
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Ah, no problem.
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SS will win hard on the steel, BG says he is as good as a horse he has ever ridden. He rode Moscow Flyer, forget your ap vouchers, welcome a new superstar.
PS I'm on at 7's, get innnnnnnnnnnn. |
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"He won't lead surely"
We now know that he may well do if there is insufficient pace. He's beatable in a tactical race but it would need a concerted effort. Slow pace early on, buzz him up in the back straight and try to get him to the third last quicker than Geraghty would want. Yesterday he admitted to being worried about the fence. Somebody would have to commit from a long way out. If all the good horses try to play late Sprinter Sacre is an easy winner. |
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FF,
Of course some dont wont SS to win if theyve backed something else!! and whats wrong with trying to justify their positions?? Unless its totally out the question that another horse cannot win the race of course,but we all know that others CAN win the race. You and everyone else do not know what will happen when they all line up in the Arkle,and all people on here should be doing is summising and having an opinion. Their have been SS backers on here saying AF can not win the Arkle,well if its an opinion fine,but it aint a fact!! The fact is that many of these horses have yet to face each other,and until they do we wont know what horse will come out on top. Thats why bookies offer odds before a race,they dont know either. You say how can anyone back anything else??,no logical reason,madhouse etc,well people will and do back others,and thats because they look at the race differently to you,or think something else is better value perhaps. I can think of a few reasons why AF could win the Arkle,same as PC or CC,one of those would be that imo they are all capable of winning a big race over 2m chases at Cheltenham. The fact that SS has been visually the most impressive does not mean he will win the Arkle,and does not mean others cant back against him without calling the men in the white coats!! |
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buddeliea
Date Joined: 19 Mar 04 Add contact | Send message When: 18 Feb 12 06:43 Joined: Date Joined: 19 Mar 04 | Topic/replies: 5,672 | Blogger: buddeliea's blog we dont know though do we,hes only ran once off a flat track and failed. Flat track bully may be right,i suspect it aint but until SS performs against a class field at Cheltenham we wont know for definite. As far as i recall hes been off the bridle once and found not a lot.For me personally i want to see him find plenty when needed,unless of course he never needs to!! Then hes Pegasus,but for the moment still has a bit to prove. according to his owner on ATR he had a wind op after the supreme - hence him not getting home |
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Anyone saying a horse CANT win the Arkle is talking tosh. Any one of SS, AF or PC could win the Arkle although outwith those 3 it's hard to see another winner. SS has been mighty impressive thus far but AF has done nothing wrong and we know both AF and PC are capable of winning at the festival. IMO SS will need to be a few lengths up coming to the 2nd last to win it and that is indeed possible given the way it has jumped and travelled so far but if either PC or AF are within a couple of lenghts coming to the bottom of the hill then we will have a real race. SS has to settle in an Arkle - over exhuberance is not a great attribute at Cheltenham even more so in a 2m novice chase run at break neck speed. None of us know how the race will pan out that is what makes it fascinating and I for 1 can't wait to see it unfold. At the prices SS makes very little appeal 3 weeks before the race and given this is far from a foregone conclusion I can see bookies taking it on come the morning of the race given it's the openeing day and the fiercely competitive nature of the markets on the morning of the race. I have AF backed at 8 and to be honest I could see me having all 3 backed come the off more so if SS becomes a more tempting price than it is as this minute. Bring it on 23 sleeps to go.
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Completley agree with Festival Fanatic here. Think those who have missed the boat are coming up with anything to say.
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