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wont win imo.
hendo has doubts about the track too. as u say, surely to god youd want to get a run in to him around chelt to prove to yourself first and foremost that the horse gets up the him. he went out like a light last year so the people that say he wont get up actually have some hard evidence of him not getting up. he might bolt up it this year and win by a street and then u can say perhaps he did have a breathing prob but until he runs there again u will be guessing. anyone saying he'll fly up the hill and it WAS his breathing last year doesnt know what they are talking about. they cant possibly know this because the horse hasnt been up the hill since. why nicky has avoided chelt until now is beyond me because if common sense prevailed, he wouldve had a run back there before the big day. maybe the prize money was bigger elsewhere? i dont know tbh but using his breathing as an excuse for last years run up the hill is not a viable one until he has ACTUALLY gone up the hill again. imo he is a v bad even money fav. he has an engine and is a brilliant jumper but if he hits ONE fence at chelt hes done for imo, race over for him against all these previous festival winners. nichols horse jumped like a stag up until the festival and then it all fell to pieces, granted hes not as good as SS but the assumption hes going to jump flawlessly is factored in to his price and in my expierence they nearly always never do when it comes to the big day. i dont think he'll win, i think peddlers cross will beat them all easily but we shall see about that too, he has something to prove too afer his last run but i believe the course was to blame for that and his awful jump at the first. i do believe as soon as SS comes under pressure he will throw in the towel and even if he does go up the hill he wont enjoy it as much as the others, he IS a better flat track horse, im sure of that. i am v strngly against him. gl if u have a bet in the race, race of the festival for me. |
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I know it is not the done thing to criticise mccoy but I genuinely thought he gave the horse a very poor ride in the Supreme - too aggressive after the third last for me, had he softened his hands and relaxed (the horse was travelling) to switch the horse off he might have got home better - but he put the gun to his head and the horse folded coming to the last
watch the replay and see if you can see where I'm coming from - a more sympathetic ride would have achieved better performance for me but then I am a heretic because I don't think mccoy is that good on horses like this ![]() |
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I was just reading another thread and had to smile when I seen this:-
dwm767 25 Feb 12 21:43 Dylan Ross for the Supreme; travels beautifully in his races and has decent form behind some very good horses. Not looking for an argument, just really suprised that having started this thread about Sprinter not getting up the hill, are you not concerned about Dylan Ross getting up the hill? Someone else will know....hasn't Dylan Ross been trading at about 1.2 in-running the last 4 races (maybe not the last one?)without winning one of them, each time emptying after travelling well? Now i'd say 90% of people would call DR a bridle horse, especially with the history of some other Noel Meade horses. Judging by the last 2-3 runs of each horse i'm just suprised you think DR will get up the hill but Sprinter Sacre won't? |
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God job he doesn't get up the hill. It really would have been embarassing otherwise.........
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I think a lot were doubting him in a finish with Al Ferof,well i was anyway.
Sadly we were robbed of that. Great performance from SS though,no doubt. |
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not sure we were robbed budd. Af would not have got close even without the mistake.
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don't know whther you noticed but al ferof got very warm pre race budd although would of been nice to see what would of happened as he had jumped well up until then
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they changed tactics with him. The mistake actually prevented him from having a hard race as it meant Ruby didn't have to ride him hard in a finish. Was being gently squeezed before he blundered, would have tired badly at the finish, mistake was a blessing in disguise.
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will be good to see what happens when he eventually comes up against something good enough to give him a race
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trouble is judo there isn't much in the way of top 2 milers...the world is his oyster
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no way of knowing Sint,and he was going fine till Ruby asked him too early.
Anyway this should be on an AL ferof thread really,cos i do not want to take anything away from SS,he dont deserve that. |
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Yes Budde but it is to do with all the points SS fans have made before. AF just does not have the pace to keep going at THAT pace. They tried to force it today where everything they said before the race '' nothing will be staying on stronger than Al Ferfor'' was the complete opposite. The action they took to go with the pace today tells us they know this horse is stamina not speed. If he did not make that blunder Ruby would have been scrubbing along way before Tizard, and, eventually Geraghty.
The action of the trainer/jockey to change tactics tells us what they are thinking. |
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You have your opinion my friend,i will have mine,and thats that nothing was proved today as where Al Ferof would have finished- its impossible mate.
We both know our thoughts. Lets just leave it at that,i dont want to get into more on these horses,the race has gone.SS won and won well. |
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Gotta think deeper than that im afraid Budde. The fact they decided to change tactics despite saying opposite beforehand is more evidence.
Anyway, thats where I will leave it! SS is bound to improve again for another year, and I hope they finish him for the season now and are not tempted by Aintree. |
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yeah no need to go anywhere, unless they wanna do a Viking Flagship at Punchestown! I'm sure they won't but I reckon they could.
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yep,all done.
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budde,Overturn boosts the form of Whisky nicely. Cracking chance if he stays, class alone should see him get the trip ?
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Yeh,thats true Sint,just hope he stays.
Thats the beauty of Cheltenham,one door closes another one opens.......hopefully!! ![]() |
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shame they are watering Wednesday night imo. Still, it wont be much.
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There wont be any excuses with the ground.
Should be a cracker!! |
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Ryan Air too!
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yep,thats a cracker too Judo.
Great aint it lads!! Gonna be so pi$$ed off Saturday,although will probably need a rest!!! |
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SS was awesome against inferior oposition i would have loved to see PC in race as i think he would have got him off the bridle and put it up to him.
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Uttoxeter National on Saturday Budde.
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good point,i like to have a go at that race.
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@ this thread.. BTW good decision Donald you knew there was nothing wrong with him ![]() |