Cheltenham Festival
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Any one have an update for this horse.... Think he could be the only horse that Ireland has that can put it up to Long Run and co.... 25/1 and 20/1 is big price if he is sound considering his record around cheltenham/Festival 2/2 and on his last run he won as he liked against a top class field as the form has held up and imo if Long Run put the same run in that won him the Gold Cup this year he will struggle because that is the 1st time ive seen a Gold Cup winner clout so many fences and still win
Very poor renewal 2011 was imo...
Very poor renewal 2011 was imo...
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this years gc should be v good, riverside theatre, long run, diamond harry, captain chris, weapons amnesty, burton port, master minded, time for rupert... + all the oldies, none of which have a chance
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hes goin for it isnt he?
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^Yeah, but he insn't going to win it and nor is Diamond "crap it's not autumn any more" Harry. I agree it should be a good year though.
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what makes you think hes not going to win. great chance i think
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which? MM or DH?
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mm
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Mainly that Gold Cup winners are almost always progressive, relatively unexposed horses and MM has a lot of miles on the clock. It's rare for recent GC winners to have run in more than 12 chases - Kauto Star being an exception (MM has run 22).
I also have a big doubt that MM will stay the Gold Cup trip at a demanding track like Cheltenham - it's a big jump from 20 f at Aintree. And he's unlikely to get much cut in the ground (which he seems to like nowadays) on the last day of the festival. |
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hes only exposed at 2 miles, speed not as good as it was. the only question to be answered i think is whether or not he will stay, only time will tell!
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Indeed!
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Be very surprised if he ends up in the GC myself but who knows
1.2 Ryanair 5 Ryanair 100 CC  |
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Be very surprised if he ends up in the GC myself but who knows
1.2 Ryanair 5 GC 100 CC  |
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If Weapon's Amnesty is as good as he was before his injury, which is often not the case, he will be the one to beat for me. He has all the right attributes for a Gold Cup winner. Would want to see how his well-being is before backing him though
Long Run was outpaced by a couple of pensioners until they got tired and he ran on past them. There is no intent there to disrespect the old guard, but they aren't the forces they once were, and he is very opposable Only other horse I could be interested in is Captain Chris. Arkle not a bad race for producing Gold Cup horses (Best Mate, War Of Attrition and Kicking King immediately spring to mind) and he's already proven he stays further than 2m I don't think this year's RSA was up to much, Diamond Harry doesn't strike me as much of a battler to win a GC, last time I checked the GC wasn't ran at Kempton so that's Riverside Theatre gone, and Master Minded, do me a favour ffs |
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Concur with all the above, Q de la Roque is an impressive looking beast with a nearly perfect novice record. A able sub if WA doesn't make it back for that feckin eejit o lairy [:x] |
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I believe that Quito developed into the best Irish novice last year (despite his early season defeat to Bostons Angel)
Time For Rupert is clearly better than his RSA run, but never struck me as an out and out top class horse previously (includes his Stayers second) IMO the Gold Cup is between Captain Chris, Weapon's Amnesty and Long Run. Burton Port should run a good race if returning sound, but don't think he has the residual class to win the race |
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See no reason why Bostons Angel should not improve to be a GC contender.Seems to have that winning attitude and looks to me a horse that will keep finding.He was top novice at this sort of distance last season and not one to underestimate imo
Agree re Weapons if he has recovered from his problems and can come back in the form he was in,serious GC contender for sure if he can. |
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Bostons Angel will relish the 3m2f anyway, I could actually see the GC being his best performance of the season, but I wouldn't say he'd be good enough to win it.
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extra 2 furlongs marathon trip and that, might get him closer to the top horses.
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Completely agree with FFT.
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Bostons possibly wont be good enough,but at current price and improvement to come,i am willing to take a chance that he will be.
Just love the horses attitude,just hates to be headed it seems. |
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they seldom come back to their very best after an injury imo ,i hope he does but the horse who impressed me the most is captain chris just wonder if hobbs will go gold cup route .
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Unbelievable that some people think that any of the rags mentioned on this thread can even touch LR,dont me me fvcking laugh!!!!
and as for MM getting 3m2f round chelters  eh,yeah right-nice jokeand WA will never see a race track again |
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foyles - injury wasnt a serious one - they could have raced him in the second half of the season but chose to wait until this season
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no point form man watching this season he knows it all all ready
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TheFormMan sounds like you think Longrun is a cert. How much would you like on with me at 11/4????
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Howdi
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of course he is a cert and why the hell would i have 11/4 with you when you can get 3/1 at a number of bookies
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A 3/1 cert!!,if only that were true.
We could make a fortune!! |
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seems pretty obvious to me budd,he turns up fit and well and he wins,very straightforward
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Fair enough,could well be right,but their are some real interesting up and comers next season.
He certainly has the beating of any of the older horses,but WA plus the new kids on the block tells me that he aint no cert!! |
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I have yet to really take to Long Run but will admit i could be wrong
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I'm with Howdi. Thought Wow after the Feltham, not sure about him following up the GC. I know he won the KG and GC and you cant fault the horse but something still nagging me about taking the 11-4
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WEAPON'S AMNESTY, last seen in public when winning the 2010 RSA Chase, is back in training with Charles Byrnes and
looking good for a campaign that could be finessed around a crack at the Totesport Cheltenham Gold Cup. Gigginstown House Stud's eight-year-old, successful in the Albert Bartlett Novices' Hurdle at the 2009 festival, suffered ligament trouble after winning the RSA. Giving an update on his condition, Byrnes said: "He was out on grass at Gigginstown and in pre-training with Ciaran Murphy and Dott Love for about three or four weeks before he came here about two weeks ago. "I'm delighted to have him back and he looks well; it's a case of so far so good. We've nothing planned for him, but I'd like to think he'll start back in about three months from now." Byrnes also reported Solwhit in good shape. The six-time Grade 1-winning hurdler finished runner-up to Hurricane Fly on no fewer than four occasions last season and his trainer has decided it is time for a switch. "The plan is to go chasing with Solwhit, as there is not much point in taking on Hurricane Fly again over hurdles," he said. "He's back in about a fortnight or so. We're looking at starting him off in about three months from now |
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My suspicion is that Long Run beat an ageing generation last year and may be vunerable. Looking back how he never won the paddy power off a mark off 150ish beggars belief.
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Must admit that i did back him in the PP and that run did baffle me and still does,but i think he has proved that all wrong now
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"We're looking at starting him off in about three months from now". I do hope that means the Hennessey.
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Haydock??
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umm,he really should have won that Paddy Power doing handstands.
maybe his beating of the old guard aint up to much,guess we will find out soon with the up and coming ones taking him on. one thing for sure i would not take 3's for the Gold Cup to find out!! |