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Zaidpour - Neptune Novices Hurdle
Zaidpour - Neptune Novices Hurdle
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louse- what do ur links think of the mullins horse that got bt at odds on in the 1st race last sunday? they think alot of it?
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You do realise I've caught you in an open provable lie? Get your mouse and hover it over your name, it'll tell you the year you joined betfair. I joined on 14th March 06, I didn't start posting on here till late 2007.
Sorry to have to expose you as a liar but I'm fed up with the people who post on here. Also on your other lie. You can check the odds history on oddschecker for the irish arkle, PaddyP market opened on the 8th. You stated you backed him at 10/1 with them on the 4th. Quite impossible. Also on another site we started an irish arkle thread on the 3rd after the entry stage. Thanks, I hope nobody believes your "inside knowledge" about Zaidpour. |
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I stated they were 12s from the 27th u absolute retard i will also get a history of a bet before then,you really are retarded
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spotthedifference, he is a liar, he has no link to the yard. I just exposed him there. He joined betfair on 8th may 2010 yet pretends he has had an account since 2005.
This place is full of his kind. |
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The odds in Paddypower moved from 12 to 10. I have mailed betfair to get an exact date i joined and historical bets in particualr a bet i put on Cadspeed inGowran this time two yrs ago at evs,and once i post this i will leave becauseof f**king retards like yourself who know nothig about betting
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We know the date you joined 8th May 2010. That is 100% certain. I know you're upset that your bullsh1t has been exposed. But sure it's only what you deserve for lying in the first place.
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"the date joined does not come up in the form, the date when you scroll over the username is the date when the formis joined " according to betfair igot them getting me a statement,just to tell you if you have'nt realised already if you use VC cash terms and the price is better else where they will match
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"The date that you will pick upon the forum is the date that user joined the forum" i assuming this means you didnt have to post.CV when you have an interesting point post.Back to horseracing
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CV what price is Mikeal for the Moriarty? Prices are up, but you can stillget aprice clown.He's 5s ridiculos price
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Just to bury you right here right now. Click on your name, the blue name, now look to the right of the screen and you'll see a nice thing heading saying Joined Betfair.
 Also us who have actually used betfair for awhile know that there's no way you'd have got a response from them in 25 mins them at midnight on a Friday. Also if you did work in Mullins yard why would you be going to such effort to convince us you were. My guess is you want to get people backing zaidpour for the neptune so you can lay off a bet. Anyway, anyone who actually believes you deserves to lose money give I've exposed you as a liar. |
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Spot Sous Les Cieux to be honest i dint here toomuch in relation to this that day,but bellieve that it was going wellin training
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I agree but surely he has more than one top hurdler. What about Day of a Lifetime, in the same ownership as Zaidpour and their shortest price runner in the Champion Bumper last season?
Get in my friend. |
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Hopefully they will look after Day of a Lifetime and not subject him to thr rigours of the Supreme novices.
A lovely horse and he can win at Punchestown. |
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louse69 ... Mullins mentions in his column today that Quel Esprit was withdrawn from the Irish Arkle to run in the Moriarty. No mention given of Mikael for the same race though he said just the other day Mikael was going for the Moriarty. If both run he should have a good idea of which race each should go to at the Festival.
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Methinks he was waiting for the rwsult of this Irish Arkle today.
Will he run Mikeal in the Arkle? Would be better than those today, I think. |
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More likely he will run Quel Esprit in the Arkle. Mikael's jumping at speed does not hold up over a shorter trip he lost his rhythm last time the fences came too quick for him. Against Jessie's Dream Mikael jumped beautifully and he should be kept to the longer trip.
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Quel Espirit would be a lay for me in the Arkle. In his stable tour WM said 'He's built for chasing, he will appreciate plenty of distance and soft ground'. Doesn't sound like Arkle for me.
I appreciate M D'A wouldn' be ideal but I somehow feel the RSA can be a horse breaker and he wil avoid it with this horse. May be wrong of course, after all I thought Thousand Stars would be his Arkle horse, he got that wrong. |
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Did the RSA bring Denman on the season before his brilliant Hennessy and Gold Cup wins, did the RSA bring Long Run on last season before his brilliant King George win?
You see it is currently the best race for future staying chase champions. |
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Denman would have been no more suited to a 2 mile Arkle than Mikael D'haguenet is. Connections have said he has the speed for 2 miles however when you put fences in the way he they come at him too fast for him to get into a jumping rhythm, we have seen that. He jumps beautifully when he is allowed to preserve that speed over a longer trip, we have also seen that when he was cantering over Jessie's Dream at the last. If he hadnt knuckled on landing he would be around 5s/6s second fav the RSA now.
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Weapon's Amnesty
Cooldine Alberta's Run Star de Mohaison Trobolgan Rule Supreme One Knight Hussard Colonges Lord Noellie Hanakhan Take your pick. Not all champions Eric. We'll just have to wait and see because you know as much as I do. And that is paying you a compliment. |
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I would run Zaidpour in the 2m 5f hurdle race, there is absolutely nothing that stands out at the distance this year and those two that finished first and second today are surely not the best around.
I thought that was a disappointing race today and cannot believe Bobs Worth is the new favourite for the Neptune, the time of the race also looked poor in comparison to other hurdle races on the card. |
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dont underestimate him hes a decieving horse hes not a flashy type like zaidpour who can win by 20l BW just does what he hasto as soon as he outbattled ROR he pricked his ears and was idling that was a hot race backspins a decent yard stick.u know with bobs worth he loves cheltenham stays the trip and goes on any ground something zaidpour has to prove alll 3 yet
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i promise you Bobs worth is a seriously good horse. just a battler and its exactly that unflashy type that can grind out a competitive Neptunes. It does remind me of peddlers cross- was off the bridle early but battled out. There are a lot of horses with a lot to prove still- but this horse has done it beating a very good field convincingly and going away at the line. i would have no hesitation tucking into 5-1 now. id rather be on that than Time for Rupert at 5/2. Bobs worth is a good bet. Zaidpour should deff go for 2m4f - but you know what Willie is like he thinks the other 'Day of A Lifetime' is his Neptunes horse.
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I think Zaidpour has an outstanding chance in either the Supreme of the Neptune.
Although Cue Card will be a tough nut to crack, I don't think there is any strength in depth at all behind him and Zaidpour. Whilst the Neptune does not have a horse with the quality of Cue Card I think it is a lot more competitve, with several having excellent chances (Bob's Worth, Rock on Ruby, Backspin, Hidden Cyclone, Minella Class, Dare Me etc). Although dissapointed to lose his last race, I think everyone can give him excuses. Plus Hidden Cyclone coming out and winning easily next time out has boosted the form. Hidden Cyclone comfortably beat Ballyhaunis last time out so that will give Willie a good gauge on how good Zaidpour is. I would personally run Zaidpour in the Neptune, but would have no problem in taking on Cue Card in the Supreme. At his prices of 8/1 for the Supreme and 10/1 for the Neptune he is an each way steal in either race. Similar to Aegean Dawn - nobody is sure which race he will go for but 14/1 in the Coral Cup and County Hurdle is an each way banker in either |
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I think the same Wellchief, only I think WM may be thinking Zaidpour could progress into a Champion Hurdle horse so, if that is in his mind I think the Supreme will be his target.
All guesswork I know but there you are. Whereas the Tizzards are already talking about chasing with Cue Card. |
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Still keeping my fingers firmly crossed that its the supreme for Zaidpour,defo agree wellchief that there is nothing down the betting that look as tho they could trouble the top 2,although you would have to worry now that Henderson has Bobs Worth for the neptune he may change his mind and target the supreme with Minella Class who would be a very serious rival to Zaidpour.
It does look like Mullins set out the season with a view to aiming him towards the neptune but that looks to have all changed as soon as he proved his speed on course,they have dropped him back to 2 miles twice and you would have to say that next sundays race over 2m 2f would again be an ideal prep for the supreme |
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good point i think minella class will drop back to 2m although hes got sprinter sacre/spirit son also prominent for the supreme
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9/4 for the Deloitte on Sunday,
I'd say that was a good price tbh, on what could be his perfect trip, 2m2f? |
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Will Mullins run both his big entries in the Delloite and Moriarty?
He has the front two in the betting for both races - Zaidpour and So Young in the Delloite, and Mikael D'Haungenet and Quel Esprit in the Moriarty. Knowing Mullins we won't know until the final decs. |
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I'd say he'll run both in the Deloitte anyway - There's nothing else for them before Cheltenham. And unless there is something amiss with Quel Esprit, they'll both run in the Moriarty aswel!
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Mullins in today's Racing Post:
'I don't think the extra 2 furlongs will hinder Zaidpour'. I think he has the Supreme in mind. Otherwise he would have said 'I think the extra 2 furlongs will help Zaidpour'. Only my opinion. |
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sounds logical,definitely a speed horse in my eyes,mullins already committed Gagewell Flyer to the Neptune and So Young almost certain to go Neptune as well so there is no room for Zaidpour in there you would think,last few days to back antepost also as will be halfed in price or worse when he dots up on sunday
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The horse won it's maiden hurdle over 2m4f so what else is he going to say? He's not going to give anything away with regard to Cheltenham until after Sunday!
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P.S. He also has Day Of A Lifetime. which is also owned by Rich Ricci, in the Supreme Novices' so it's more likely that the two of them will be running in different races.
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Mullins already stated that Day of a Lifetime may not even turn up at cheltenham this year,i would be 99% confident that Zaidpour is going the supreme route,it seems very very clear and obvious.
Dave Dugan speaking on the irish angle on ATR a few minutes ago says that he expects Zaidpour to win on sunday and win very well and that he also expects that he will/should then become favorite for the supreme where he will take all the beating and then went on to say that he would have the beating of cue card in his eyes |
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I heard that and that follows everything I have been saying for a while now. Lets hope he is right.
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Thread has produced plenty of debate anyway
 As for Dave Duggan i do take what he says with a pinch of salt, every horse that comes out of Ballydoyle is the 2nd coming according to him  |
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Whatever he does on Sunday, Zaidpour won't be favourite for the Supreme Novives'. Ahead of Cue Card, no chance!
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Do you believe that Child?
If Zaidpour wins on Sunday he would have won 2 Grade 1's and 2nd in a Grade 1 hurdle whereas CC has won 1 Grade 2 and been beaten in a Grade 2 hurdle. I think they will be Jt fav's at best. |
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Dave Duggan
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