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That was masssively impressive.There are many times when horses get overhyped, most involved in this sport are guilty of it from time to time usually on the back of a visually impressive performance.Many will point out that he beat little of note today and that he didnt have any real pressure put on his jumping of which both are true but how could anyone fail to be excited and impressed by what we have seen so far? His win in last years champion bumper (which he recorded a time far superior to that of the supposed wonderhorse dunguib)was astonishing not only did he beat a grade one field by eight lengths he did so on only his second racecourse start and as four year old!.Today he jumped like a natural he was neat and slick at his obstacles and simply oozed class to my eye, i really cant wait to see more of this horse he really is exciting
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As a very well respected horsey friend of mine said to me last night.. this could be the next Arkle.
After the race he phoned me to say he thinks he might be better... and yes he saw all Arkles famous victories.  |
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Think that may be a little premature
 . CC undoubtedly looks bound for the very top but he has beat a group of class 3 novices today in the way he should if he is to take his place in the upper echelons. I feel this horse can make it to the top but comparisons with Arkle are frankly, ludicrous. |
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Every year the hype gets stronger, i guess it fills papers and sells.
But its not often you see a horse pull its head for the entire 2m4f, very impressive. |
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Quvega.. this "could" be the next Arkle.
If Clerks Choice has a rating of 162,Cue Card must be 180+ it would beat it hands would beat it hands down over any distance...IMO. I was blown away by that performance today... What a great prospect... |
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Absolutely Scoop, he is a wonderful and exciting prospect. So many horses have been called the next Arkle tho and to burden such a young horse with such expectations when so many fail to live up to the great one is, I feel, a bit daft. Sorry, don't mean to be rude and perhaps last post came across as a bit harsh
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Ps, if he becomes as great as Arkle, I'll be the first to apologise. Please G0d he stays healthy and sound.
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Interesting that the champion hurdle isnt being ruled out if all goes well this winter!!
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He's a young horse. Surely no need for the Champion Hurdle yet?
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if he wins all his races as easily as today then he should go for the champion, no reason to hang about as sometimes fate is can be cruel.
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I had the pleasure of being there today and - as Rease Heath says - CC's owner is a very lucky lady. Seeing him in the paddock before the race was a joy. I can genuinely say I have not been as impressed by the presence of a horse for a very long time. He reminds me slightly of Best Mate for that reason - although the pair are very different models they were both beautiful to look at. This fellow is a really athletic, classy sort who really takes the eye.
Went down to the final hurdle to watch him come past and he was oozing as much class then as when he entered the paddock. As has been said, this obviously didn't tell us much about his ability but he does jump well by the looks of things and has a serious gearbox on him. Thoroughly impressive, in every respect. |
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Could we have a rare bumper horse who can transfer his ability to hurdles?
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Looks that way Eric, his jumping was very slick and accurate I thought.
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Definitely wouldn't rule out the champion hurdle at the moment - don't think the 33s is too unfair a price for a few reasons.
1. Trainer's comments were hardly off putting for the race afterwards 2. Interesting he's already schooled over fences - maybe they're keen on getting him over the bigger obstacles sooner rather than later. 3. If he's going to have a run every 3 weeks or so as they claim, then surely there's time for 4 runs before a try in a weak trial - for example maybe the agfa would fit in nicely. |
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Supreme or Neptune looks like connections are going to keep you guessing until the short 6s and 7s is gone. The new races really have shafted antepost betting at the Festival.
"He's exciting, but there's a lot of responsibility that goes with it," said Tizzard senior. "He has done everything we expected him to and we could look to all the good two-mile and two-and-a-half-mile novice races. "He could go to Cheltenham in three weeks' time as he hasn't taken anything out of himself." |
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or Champion Hurdle.
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Did not see the race,but by all accounts he can jump,unlike the previous Bumper winner.That means he is a great prospect,be interesting to see what they plan for him.Spose given the distance the Neptune must be fav at this moment.
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And the ante-post guessing begins again!
My view, based on last year's Bumper win and on yesterday's Aintree romp, is that although he looks like stamina will not be a problem, he has bundles of speed and travels very well, which leads me to the Supreme. |
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Despite backing him in the Sun Alliance, I now tend to agree with you Tom. He travels so well, that a fast run 2m would seem to be ideal. Should hopefully be able to lay off my bet for a small profit / free bet between now and March anyway.
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He won very nicely and is a lovely lovely prospect - but Dunguib was equally impressive in all his novice hurdle wins last year prior to Cheltenham so please don't start getting too carried away just yet.
With the doubts about which race he will run in (if he gets there at all of course) I don't see much pointing backing him for anything antepost. |
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dunguib was nowhere near has impressive.... all he beat was trees, in the majority of his prep runs... and he did not jump hardly any hurdles.
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Well thats crap of the highest order - if the horses Dunguib laughed at in the Delloite hurdle were trees then the ones Cue Card beat yesterday were mere shrubs
 He is a lovely prospect and may well win at Cheltenham but all this waffle about him being a certainty or better than Arkle is for the birds  . |
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This race was always going to be about one horse, and he didn´t disappoint. CUE CARD belongs in a different sport to his opponents here and probably frightened off any decent opposition, but that wasn´t his fault as he hardly needed to get into secondgear against these. He was very keen, these horses just couldn´t go quick enough for him, but his jumping was safe and quite slick at times, it was hard enough to fault it. The only anxiety Joe Tizzard had was in not letting him go too soon and may be having to slog it up the hill, but there was never a danger of that. Several classes apart on the day, bigger tests and better horses await him, but no horse has been able to get him off the bridle for the past year and there isn´t an obvious candidate around at the moment.....
Not quite correct...this was actually the write up in the RP for Dunguib's first run over hurdles almost exactly a year ago and I have edited the horse/jockey.....totally agree with unclepuncle's healthy scepticism at this stage of Cue Card's career ....defeat for Dunguib was unthinkable at one stage. I do think however that last years Cheltenham bumper was very high class and certainly the top 7-8 home will make very nice novice hurdlers...really like Dare Me and am expecting big things from Al Ferof and Megastar as well. Really good to have a talking horse like Cue Card from a stable such as the Tizzards. |
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Dunguib did nearly win the Supreme and may still have done if had a better ride. You talk like he was a major flop when he wasn't really.
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What price was Dunguib after winning his first hurdle?
A damned sight shorter than 6/1 |
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enjbenjy - not at all - its not written as if he were a flop it is merely pointing out that the unbeatable was in fact beatable ...jockey error or not . The RP piece was very similar for Dunguib and Cue Card on their debuts....whilst Cue Card is a fantastic prospect he is not Arkle yet although he could be one day.Given that he is only 4 I think he could also find a bit more improvement than Dunguib.Be very interesting if both were entered for the Champion Hurdle.
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At last some one that actually reads what as been written ... great stuff minger a breath of fresh air.
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i know its all ifs and buts but why is dunguib shorter in c hurdle market than cue card
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^ I think Minger was actually agreeing with me
 And at least Dunguib was nigh on guaranteed to run in the Supreme Novices -and was obviously a good back to lay in hindsight, but with Cue Card having two novice options it makes it nigh impossible to base anantepost book on him. I'm not knocking the horse - I agree it was a decent bumper, almost certainly better than Dunguibs, and I can't think of anything I'd fancy more for the Supreme at this stage - though I won't be backing him becasue of the price and the doubts about his target. |
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And for what it's worth the horses from the bumper I'm especially keen on are Bishopsfurze (who I have backed forthe Neptune at 25/1) and Tavern Times who ran really well but then flopped at Punchestown - not sure if there was an excuse for that run?
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Think the clue is the distance.2M5F on his debut over hurdles.That tells me they are going longer distance.Not often they start over anything but 2m if they looking at supreme.Just my opinion of course.
AS for Dunguib,i think i lost count of the number of times i told people he dont jump well enough.Thats why he did not win the Supreme,no other reason.Jockey was told to go wide to avoid trouble cos of his jumping.And he lost lengths in doing so. Cue Card is looking by all accounts to be a good jumper,early days of course,and that stands him in good stead for a good jumping career.Unlike Dunguib. |
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Just think with his pace they have far more options by taking him back to two miles - as somebody already pointed out on here Chelts 2m is almost equivalent to the flat track 2m4f at Aintree.Tizzard knows he will stay all day....now just needs to check he has the pace to live with the best at 2m . A strongly raced 2m should suit him far better than the dawdle at Aintree . I would not be at all surprised if he continues to impress if they do have a crack at the Champion Hurdle . Winner gets 4 x the prize money than winning Supreme ,Neptune or Albert B and the second gets £20k more than the winner of those.
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I haven't seen the horse live. Can anyone who has tell me what he is like physically. Does he have the stamp of a chaser? How would he compare height wise to a horse like Sizing Europe? Would you say he has grown into his frame well at this stage? Does his class come across in his appearance in the parade ring or is he one of those you could easily mistake for a low grade handicapper? Does his confirmation overall look good?
And how would you say he is temperament wise at the races? Was he calm enough in the parade ring? He looked to be pulling quite a bit on Sunday. Was that simply that they weren't going fast enough for him, or is there a possibility he might get a bit lit up whatever the company? |
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I really think this talk of the Champion is complete and utter bollux. And i've no idea why people would get themselves into a lava about it. The horse is a novice, he has only had 3 runs in his entrie life. Get a grip,please.
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TRAINER Colin Tizzard has not dismissed a challenge on the Stan James Champion Hurdle for the highly promising Cue Card, who may be dropped in trip for his next start after bolting up over 2m4f at Aintree on Sunday.
Tizzard reported the Weatherbys Champion Bumper winner to be in great shape after his stunning debut over hurdles at Aintree, where he won unchallenged by 13 lengths, and said he could drop back in distance at Cheltenham's Open meeting next month. Cue Card was already quoted for the Champion Hurdle before the weekend, but his display encouraged more bookmakers to price him up for the festival showpiece, for which Cue Card's odds range from 25-1 to 33s. Tizzardsaid: "The media guys at Aintree rather pushed me on the Champion Hurdle. Although it must be considered unlikely that he'd run, we wouldn't rule anything out at this stage." Cue Card is clear favourite for the 2m Supreme Novices' Hurdle and 2m5f Neptune Investment Management Novices' Hurdle, and Tizzard added the idea of dropping back to the minimum trip has yet to be fully discussed with owner Jean Bishop.  |
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aka -
I was at Aintree and as I said in my earlier post he is the most taking individual I have seen in the flesh since Best Mate (although very different physically). He has tremendous presence, looks beautifully balanced and is a very athletic sort. He has plenty of scope but doesn't necessarily look like a chaser - he just looks all class. There were not many people around the parade ring and the course itself was quiet but he looked very calm in the paddock. The only hint of him getting lit up was when he wanted to go faster in the race itself. Jury must be out on that to a degree but I'm inclined to think he will probably settle - after all, he only pulled very early on when the pace was so slow many horses would do the same. Saw him jump the last hurdle and whizz by in the style of a very fast horse, which is what prompts me to think a fast-run 2m at Cheltenham is much the more suitable option. Am sure they will go the novice route with him, too, for what it's worth. He's still very young and has much more time on his side than Dunguib (for example), who still ended up going for the novice rather than the Champion. Although the two are chalk and cheese, it's also unlikely to encourage connections to take a flyer having seen how the latter's bubble was burst last March. |
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Media at it again BJG
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to run this horse in the champion would be criminal, he has a very bright future, no point wrecking that know.
and i dont want to get into the 5year olds running in champion hurdle debate. |
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Agree with the comments about the CH. It would be daft.... he's a baby. There are novice races for a reason.
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Thanks for the feedback, tomdeane. When you see the horse on video front on, you can get a sense of how solidly built he is in an athletic way. He looks fairly well balanced as well in terms of his conformation, though that is always harder to tell on camera. He certainly took the hurdles in a nicely poised and balanced way for the most part, despite pulling for a good part of the race.
I remember seeing Denman for the first time in the flesh very early in his career. I thought the horse had descended from heaven in front of me, he made such a strong impression physically and in terms of his presence. The idea of 'presence', I guess, is a vague and intangible enough sort of thing, but there is certainly something about many of the highly talented horses that creates that impression over and above just how they are made physically. I suppose Arkle was the best example of that. He was unmistakably 'himself'. |