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hi
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with punters backing average 12 numbers per spin ....usually birthdays or some silly guess........they have lost 9+ bets all ready......i have won money on fobt.s.......by giving myself a good spread on the wheel.........havent played for 5 years now.......but an easy way to check in any shop ..look at past numbers....13-14-23-24.
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were my bets purely on numbers spread....and i have bet the max many times......on each number.
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some of the biggest mugs ever on this fred, chumps
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Totally agree Win Only.
Frightening really: Its these kind of mugs that vote the government in. |
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tally ho old bean.
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few novices here ...lol.
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give up your casino games, etc....its all the same, its designed to take your cash....mugs game...
at least in sports/racing betting there is an element of skill required..... can't believe this topic has generated such interest..... |
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lot on here critisise...10p ew creeps imo.
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Over the years lost over£50 k on them my wife has left with the kids and i leave in a rented bedsit now
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Try to avoid the bookies now FOBT are evil like the plague there is no way you can win in the end your'll lose
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You serious Arthur?
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no fbots ! no bookies ! bill hills 900 mil over there heads need fbots otherwise go bust ! ban them !
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are u still playing them arthur.
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Haven't posted on here before but feel compelled to make some comments on this topic.
Firstly, there are lots of debates whether these FOBT are fixed or not. I believe that there is a good chance that they are. However, either way, I firmly believe that they are extremely bad news. I understand that there some people who play them for a bit of fun and fair play to them. On the flip side of that I think that there are far more people who become involved with them in a very damaging way. I would consider myself one of those people. I hear some people already shouting 'mug' out aloud. . . and I can understand that as it makes no sense to bet on something where more often than not you lose. I have wasted so much of my hard earned cash on these things over the past 6 or 7 years and I keep coming back for more. I would consider myself to be a fairly intelligent guy - university educated and a chartered accoutant with a big four 4 firm but I have a massive weakness with these things. And I know I'm not alone . . . I see people every day who appear to be totally manic with them - talking to themselves and getting angry - I tend to be more placid externally . . but very troubled internally. . . . apologies if I am rambling on - I have had a couple of glasses wine tonight. All I would say is that if there is anyone out there who is beginning to get involved with these things - then don't. It's a very slippery slope . I understand that everyone is different and some people can control themselves but I can not and there are plenty of others that can not either. I have had spells where I have stayed away and they are great times and I am currently away from them and hope to stay that way for as long as possible. Buit one day at a time . . . I wish they had never had been invented or brought into betting shops. . . or the maximum bets reduced. . . but unfortunately they are here to stay, so I hope that people can control their habit, or if like me they can not, seekl help . . I have attended GA off and on and reaped the benefits. Anyway, I'm off for another glass of wine. |
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I would also like to add that I can bet / trade / gamble via all other medium without any issues at all - for some reason FBOT are the worst for me.
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pauly,
u sound very similar to me - with similar views - it'd be great to have a one on one chat about it (via email) - I guess we can't give out email addresses on here - but if you try bigmac799 and then attach a google mail bit at the end - you could get in touch with me - I would be fascinated to chat to you about it..... good luck with the abstention. |
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Sounds like you might need to be attending AA as well quite soon.
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Up £1,400 today thanks to these machine, pretty much down to having £10 on 5 and it came in two spins on the bounce.
Yes I've had days in the past when I've lost £200/£300 but it's a great buzz to get a good win. I don't think they're fixed. Why would 5 with £10 on it come out twice in a row if they were? It's just random. Somedays you have lucky days, other days your luck is out. |
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^sounds areel shroodie ;-)
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I agree with Forest,you have lucky days and unlucky ones, its as simple as that,it is as much the same on the horses and football bets.It would be brilliant if you could pinpoint the lucky ones but as they are as random as the number generator machine im afraid.
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I think they are fixed, was 172 pounds up for 30 mins hit every number I had give or take one or 2 spins, then never hit a number for a dozen spins in a row ended up with 27 quid, still won 17 quid and had a great buzz, nearly imposible to go from 10 pounds on horses to nearlt 200
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nominee for stupidest thread ever (yorky)
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post*
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do I get a prize ?
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and it was a reply not a thread, so can i nominate you for most stupidest abuse of a thread that was only a reply ,ever
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2nd dec lost £0.00
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Study a machine ,watch them all play,wait till they all have lost,then step in.
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^pmsl
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Decent thread this. All I can say is they aren't worth messing with. You CAN'T beat 'em so why bother, have a pint instead you'll enjoy it more.
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it so sad when they say cant aford a pint and yet spent 40s 50s on those things
and i dont understand that later it oh here a pint and they say can i borrow a tenner to only to run back on them stay away they are evil things |
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They provide an excellent service in my opinion.
Save up all your 10p 20p and 50p and £1/£2 coins for a while then when you have accumulated a reasonable sum deposit them in the FOBT machine Bet £3.60 black, £3.60 red, 20p on green, and spin the wheel. After 1 spin, walk away - print out your receipt and exchange it for notes at the pay-out counter. It's a much better option than counting up all the coins yourself, plus there's no bagging involved and the inevitable waiting in a queue at the bank to credit your account. Additionally the bookies are more customer service friendly by having longer opening hours than the banks - they are even open on Sundays. This is an excellent service by the bookies for which we should be grateful - and they only charge you 20p for this i.e. your one spin loss. Additionally you will also be helping the shop staff by giving them something to do in those quiet evening openings when you are lucky to see a couple of punters inside - they will love to spend their time counting up the coins. |
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why waste the 20p on a spin, just put the coins in
and press collect |
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i changed over £300 in silvers in a FOBT then waited for the staff to empty it
oh how i laughed when little fatty was missing eastenders on the shop tele cos she was counting my shrapnel |
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pathetic
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One of my mates got told off by the manager for putting loadsa change in a fobt and pressing collect, ladcrookes joker
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The staff should have paid him in change too.
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My self exclusion finished new years eve so went in there to renew it, as all the staff had changed no-one knew me so i stuck a nifty in a darlek and took out £200.. i was now hooked again, won the next four days got £850 up then guess what , the darleks revenge why i took all my profits in i do not know, took the whole lot, rushed home like lewis hamilton got another £200 and lost that in a clouded daze, a thousand and fifty quid in a couple of hours.
least now my exclusion is back on so i wont have to put myself through it again. its the only way wish more would do it to stop the misery. |
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Mr Stupid hope this helps
I'm a bookie, I implore all my customers to not play to win, play for fun, thats all they should be. you can't beat a machine that pays 97% or whatever it is,pure and simple. I admit I play them, I get good wins sometimes, other times I lose my head and then walk wondering why I done that, you can't beat machines, end of! There are no trends, no plans, no good or bad machines, no theories, no scripts. It would be the same if you went to a casino, you continue to play roulette, you lose, plan and simple. You've only yourselves to blame if you have done your nuts in them, get self excluded if its that much of a problem, if you're stupid enough to believe you can beat a machine designed to make profit. Play for fun!! You'll hit a good run every now and then maybe but never chase, no matter hard it is not to. Basically, if you can't walk away a tenner down after having a couple of spins then don't play them. They exploit the mathematically challenged. I see these poor depressed fekkers everyday with their stupid theories. Sometimes I try to politely explain but it won't sink in. It seems alot of folk have trouble with the concept of randomness. They cannot see that in the extreme long run, every time they spin the wheel for £100 they are donating roughly £3 for the pleasure. In olden times a clueless gambler would have a bit of time to cool off before the next race. Even though a horse race works on a much higher rake, a single spin on the roulette to a pinsticker would represent better value. Once he starts respinning though it is a slow spiral to skintsville. It is all about turnover and those things really do turn it over quick. 100 less 3% = £97 less 3% = apx £94 less 3% =apx £91....£88,£86,£83,£80,........ You've been had for £20 and you've been playing it for 7 spins, its taken two and a half minutes but you musn't grumble because thats bang on average. What do you expect? Often the poor sod expects all sorts of crazy stuff because he/she doesn't understand what to expect (Exploitation) The trouble people have with the above example is that it is not generally how it goes. Its distribution is highly variable, so isolated sessions will be highly variable. If you were to play them regularly throughout your life and recorded every spin you ever made, you would have lost very close to 3% of EVERY single spin you ever made. For those who never learn thats alot of money,. Still as long as they are doing it responsibly within their limits and having a coffee in a plastic cup, it's only a small minority who have a problem, ******. The machines are the same as real wheels. They are random. They do not need to be fixed. They have no memory. They do not care where your *****are. They encourage compulsive addicts and are destroying racing. I wish they would be banned but cannot see it happening. Only four per shop, so more and more bookies have appeared, more and more misery for the vunerable. Lovely business, very little to do with racing these days. 3% sounds small but it is 3% of every single spin, did I mention that? EVERY SPIN |
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Very good post typhoon ginger
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