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By:
CrazySnake
When: 21 Jun 12 06:38
I don't see what the outcome of this weekend's game has to do with the overall comment, actually.
He's entitled to an opinion, and as long as he makes a good case why make a song and dance. He may or may not be wrong, but he's out there on public record. It's up to you to take or leave his opinion.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 06:45
Snake I thought his attack on Mark neald was nothing short of cowardly and was absolutely disgraceful, Neald was handed a fair dinkum rabble and he's had to try and rebuild from the ground up, he lost me forever with that, noticed he said not much about his former teams pitiful effort against the suns. King was always very brave as player when someone back was turned and he continues to display the same tendencies.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 06:48
Log it's been pouring down here most of the week, the sun finally came out today and its sunny but very cold, wet wont worry the eagles in the slightest.
By:
Aussie Driver
When: 21 Jun 12 07:01
His points were actually based on football intelligence and made absolute sense. You didn't see it by the sounds of things LE so your view is irrelevant on this topic
By:
logroller
When: 21 Jun 12 07:17
aussie , was it on 360? what was the show
By:
Aussie Driver
When: 21 Jun 12 07:18
yes on 360
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 07:33
AD I forgot I bow to your superior knowledge of all things.
He was proven immediately wrong with melbourne and will no doubt be proven wrong with his assessment of Adelaide and West Coast, he refuses to give West Coast any credit for sitting top of the table despite missing over 100 goals from their side from last season including arguably the the best small forward in the game in le cras, and one of the best centre half forwards in kennedy. He was very much displaying typical victorian media commentary bias. He needs to realise that it's a national competition.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 07:44
Actually I did see it AD and I thought his viewpoint while interesting was very biased, you can manipulate stats to illustrate your point of view if your selective with them and in the end stats mean very little, its results that count.  Logically better teams aren't going to turn over the ball as much as inferior teams, surely that's a no brainer even for an "expert" such as yourself.  So what he said made not much sense in reality, the adelaide v collingwood games was one of the better quality games of the year and adelaide only just failed the test.
By:
Aussie Driver
When: 21 Jun 12 07:44
I am not Victorian LE so clearly have no Vic bias, but really you can't comment without having seen it you don't know what I am referring to at all.

His comments made complete sense when he discussed Adelaide and West Coast and I completely agree with him in saying Collingwood and Hawthorn are ahead of the pack. I was a little surprised by his view of Essendon
By:
Aussie Driver
When: 21 Jun 12 07:46
I was only looking to raise a reasonable football point on here, it seems you are unwilling to debate properly so I will not post on this thread anymore.

Go back to betting on every gallops and harness race all over the world where you have apparently done your form, you diseased gambler
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 07:49
So now you know what I've seen and haven't seen,  gee it must be hard being such an expert in all things punting and being able to read a person's minds as well.
I noticed adelaide have firmed up significantly as well, as I said the price they were put up was grossly incorrect. furthermore  AD I never said you were Victoiran I said King's comments were typical victorian media bias
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 08:03
So now when you're proven wrong you take your bat and ball and go home, what a surprise.
It seems you're the one can't debate AD, I made a number of points which you refused to counter and I'm still waiting for you to admit that Maric has been a great pick up for Richmond. Apparently I had no idea according to the all knowing AD then as well, having said early in the season that he will be a great asset for richmond
You still haven't said anything in regard to King's cowardly attack on Melbourne he's wrong, far more often than he's right and I have little doubt that he will be proven incorrect, yet again.
For someone who doesn't bet on football by your admission you come on here and start launching personal attacks such as diseased gambler, it speaks volumes for your personal character, again you have the audacity to presume that you know everything about me when in reality you know nothing about me.
By:
CrazySnake
When: 21 Jun 12 08:54
LE,

The adelaide price has moved 0.02. Hardly what I would consider proof of anything, and a far cry from the 1.10-1.20 you proposed. Be serious for one minute.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 09:02
opened 1.45 with tab sportsbet and is now into 1.38 and I will suggest they will shorten further, firmed with  all the corporates as well, sportingbet opened 1.45 now into 1.36 and I have little doubt they will continue to firm everywhere.
By:
CrazySnake
When: 21 Jun 12 09:08
1.43 available Pinnacle and they'll take 3415 at that price to anyone that wants it.
You said 1.20 was value. It doesn't make your point very well, especially when I priced the game to 1.40 on Sunday night.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 09:49
In my opinion I think anything above $1.20 is value and in my opinion they're at least a $1.20 shot. In my opinion they should start 1.20, in reality they probably won't but I won't be surprised either if they continue to firm into  1.30-1.25 somewhere around that mark.

Not saying your assessment is wrong snake but 1.45, 1.40 was and s tremendous value in my opinion,it's as simple as that. Don't kinow all the corporate snakes far from it just the major ones what's pinnacles address I may have to open an account if they going to continue to bet prices like that.
By:
CrazySnake
When: 21 Jun 12 09:54
Nonsense. They aren't a 10/1 shot against anyone. They aren't that bad.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 10:01
I firmly believe they are that bad, I fully expect them to never even remotely trouble the crows in this game.
By:
CrazySnake
When: 21 Jun 12 10:03
Where punting is concerned the end seldom justifies the means.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 10:20
Rightly or wrongly, for me this is a simple assessment Snake, so I see no need to needlessly complicate the issue. North are in terrible form, struggling for any confidence, Crows are genuine flag contenders going well and looking to further consolidate knowing they can improve their chances of finishing top 2 by destroying North with West Coast and Collingwood slugging it out against one another.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 10:33
Snake I may well be proven incorrect if North win but I will happily take around 32% above my price assessment on every occasion.
By:
CrazySnake
When: 21 Jun 12 10:58
End of discussion
By:
bigted.
When: 21 Jun 12 11:00
Good punting round this one.. IMO
Like north at odds,and essendon..
By:
CrazySnake
When: 21 Jun 12 11:09
Freo decimated by injury and suspension. Ballantyne probably the biggest out. Still don't like the Bombers. I'll sit that one out.

Warming to the Lions. Don't know yet.

Looks like I am sitting this round out. Really don't like anything strongly.
By:
pokeron
When: 21 Jun 12 15:07
starting the dockers match with 200 on them @2.15
starting the crows match with 200 on them @ 1.45
starting the eagles game with 200 on them @ 2.9
starting the sydney game with 200 on them @ 1.71

how i end these games who knows??
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 16:41
Have to agree Snake think the lions are a real chance Black is a big in and they were ok against the hawks who eventually completely outclassed them
By:
ghoststory.
When: 22 Jun 12 02:28
The Cats are just going at the moment but do have about their best team in for the year tonight.
I don#t believe the ground holds many fears for them as they won there last year.

Swans have no doubt improved and play the 'sardine can' well however they have only played two top 8 teams at home this year...giving up nearly all of a 47pt lead to the Dockers before winning by 2 goals and losing to the Crows. They still managed to nearly cough up an 8 goal to the Bombers in the last qrt last start.


You can make a case for either side..... and yes the Swans have been beating up on the also rans at home...however
Cats are still a fair unit.... having beaten the Hawks outdoors and being level with the Pies at the G with a minute to go...
$2.85 with Tabsportsbet Cats 1 to 39 is over the odds for me and have played for one unit.

All the best all..
By:
logroller
When: 22 Jun 12 04:38
looking forward to this game tonight, was kinda hoping it would be wet so we could see the 2 best wet weather sides in the comp.....the betting is right for mine, so wont be betting prepost will have to see what unfolds in the first quarter or half

good luck to all with your opinions
By:
Lets Elope
When: 22 Jun 12 07:01
ripper game and still haven't decided which way I'm leaning very difficult to separate them, expect the cats to fire up tonight but have a big opinion of the swans so very very hard to separate the two. Can't see there being much between them in this game for mine, maybe a very slight leaning towards the swan at home on the Scg but no wouldnt shock to see the cats win
By:
wombleoz
When: 22 Jun 12 10:38
go Swannies - on the -8.5 in my multis Cool
By:
Lets Elope
When: 22 Jun 12 10:48
ended up changing my mind again and have tipped Geelong in all my tipping, should be a great game and suspect it will be very close all night. I have also layed sydney very small for something
By:
Lets Elope
When: 22 Jun 12 10:49
Just think 1.64 is short enough for the swans
By:
Lets Elope
When: 22 Jun 12 11:14
fantastic start by the swans,they're just all over the cats currently reminiscent of their first 3/4's against the bombers in their previous game currently lead 36-7 after a great goal by Jetta. Can the cats lift and find something because if they don't this game could be soon beyond them at this rate
By:
Lets Elope
When: 22 Jun 12 11:24
wow swans systematically dismantled them in the first quarter, I haven't seen that done to the cats for a long,long time.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 22 Jun 12 11:57
important captain's goal from Selwood just prior to halftime. To say they needed that would be a massive understatement. Swans lead by 29 points at halftime
By:
Lets Elope
When: 22 Jun 12 12:30
swans stoppage work around goals tonight has been nothing short of outstanding.
By:
Zedative.
When: 22 Jun 12 12:33
This is where you belong Lets wank$r two team events stay away from horse racing its more then 3 runners per event not for you!
By:
Lets Elope
When: 22 Jun 12 12:57
who asked you for your opinion mate unlike your good self I don't have to put words into someone's mouth.
By:
coboz
When: 22 Jun 12 13:04
game on
By:
Lets Elope
When: 22 Jun 12 13:04
C'mon you cat's if they pull this one off it could be the springboard for a big assault yet again on the finals
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