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BJT
When: 18 Jun 12 12:20
If you want a thread based on people with your opinion, then why not just write yourself a note?  Producing a thread on a forum asking for peoples opinions does not work if you are not prepared to accept anybody with a different view than you.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 18 Jun 12 12:21
They didn't win by a nose though nick, did they. Crows were headed fought back and won by 29 points after leading at every change, that's the equivalent of winning by about four lengths at the races for mine, so you were challenged strongly at the 200m but you fought off the other horse and asserted your superiority over the final 200m to win going away by four lengths, how does that add up to a nose pray tell.

FRE     3.3    6.6    10.9    12.10 (82)
ADEL     5.2    10.5    12.6    17.9 (111)
By:
CrazySnake
When: 18 Jun 12 12:23
Ok, LE, how about next week you post your prices on Sunday as well as me. Anyone else who wants to do that too should also post.
I am curious about how you guys price and how much difference there is between our "true" prices.
By:
Aussie Driver
When: 18 Jun 12 12:24
LE the issue is the tolerance level in price and the impact that has on the balance of your market, in this case only one other runner
By:
CrazySnake
When: 18 Jun 12 12:24
I don't argue. I didnt argue. Check your facts. I merely made comment about the pricing LE quoted in the first instance. It had squat to do with calculations, you jerk. This wasn't an argument until you made it one.
By:
CrazySnake
When: 18 Jun 12 12:26
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. But you are just a vexatious human being, BJ. I don't need it.
By:
logroller
When: 18 Jun 12 12:26
wtf did u just say AD...........get real man
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jun 12 12:26
CrazySnake • June 17, 2012 3:18 PM BST
Sorry, LE but I must say this in light of your pricing. You do not have a serious and objective method of pricing football games. That is patently obvious from your last post.
I am a 12 year professional and have been pricing all kinds of contests for all of that time and as an amateur well before that. Your methodology cannot and will not stand the test of time. You should find another way to earn income because you will ultimately fail as a pro.

With respect.


My mistake.  Somebody must have hijacked your account without you knowing...
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jun 12 12:27
And you are right.  You don't argue.  You attack people with a different opinion.  You either tell them to quit betting, or call them names.....
By:
CrazySnake
When: 18 Jun 12 12:28
I know what AD is getting at Loggy. He's right IMO.
By:
CrazySnake
When: 18 Jun 12 12:28
BJT don't bother talking at me anymore. I am blocking you on the grounds that you are just a nasty piece of work. Have a nice life.
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jun 12 12:28
The reality is, it doesn't matter how many other runners there are in the market.  Runners are just another variance in your selections chance of winning.
By:
logroller
When: 18 Jun 12 12:29
well your a pretentious twit aswell
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jun 12 12:29
If you say something that is rubbish, I will happily respond, whether you see it or not...
By:
CrazySnake
When: 18 Jun 12 12:30
That may well be true, Loggy. But I am not entirely sure why you are so plugged in to the comment. What is your issue with it?
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jun 12 12:31
My whole point was always there is many ways to do things.  And apparantly I am wrong and a nasty piece of work because I don't bow down to the self confessed "12 year professional".....
By:
Lets Elope
When: 18 Jun 12 12:31
Snake I wasn't criticising, my opinion is, that is what they should be, I am trying to smash games where I think their is an obvious advantage or more importantly what seems like an obvious advantage to me. people can take my opinion however they want. If I am going to put up with that sort of shiit constantly not from you but from others I won't bother posting.
I've had a gutful of it on the racing thread when you're only trying to help people and I'm virtually given up posting on there as a result and by focussing on my punting again rather than tryi ng to stupidly help others I've been better off.
By:
logroller
When: 18 Jun 12 12:31
ffs tell me what that bs means for a start
By:
CrazySnake
When: 18 Jun 12 12:42
Ok, LE, I get that you can look for and find value. That is the edge we all look for. But to say you think they are 1.10 chances would suggest they would win 10 out of every 11 games between the 2 sides at that venue, and that just isn't a realistic assessment of the true odds IMO.
Even Geelong at Skilled might not be 1.10 against mediocre sides every single one of 11 starts. So to say that about Adelaide on the road against North (a truly mediocre side at best) isn't a true reflection of the balance of an equation that would see them successful 10 out of 11 times. It just wouldn't happen that way. Even within a game the true price fluctuates with personnel and tactics and conditions etc.
I only have issue with the price, not whether or not they will win on this occasion. That is largely irrelevant to the debate.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 18 Jun 12 13:00
Fine snake like I said it's my opinion and in this case I am more than happy to sink or swim by it, we'll just agree to disagree on this. On current form I think the crows would comfortably take care of north 99 times out of 100. I am still trying to figure out how they cost me a big multi earlier in the season when they somehow knocked off Geelong and ever since they basically haven't fired a shot.
By:
BJT
When: 18 Jun 12 13:08
While I do agree somewhat that you can find value by increasing your variance, I think that this is their issue.  You can't say you rate a team 1.10 and then say you think they win 99 times in 100.  The 2 are mutually exclusive.

By saying you rate a team 1.10 says you think they win 91 times out of 100.  By saying they win 99 times out of 100 you are saying you rate them at 1.01.
By:
Kye
When: 18 Jun 12 13:11
Winners are grinners. If your team you rated favorite won then you got it right if they lost then you got it wrong. end of story. get on with picking the next game.

You cant get them all right all the time.

I think there are a few ppl here that think they are supreme experts & just need to respect others opinions b/c we all get it wrong occasionally. & those that get it wrong just need to admit it & move on to next week/match.
By:
CrazySnake
When: 19 Jun 12 02:18
A voice of moderation amongst the howling masses. What a welcome change...

Anyone wanting to back the Pies for the top 8 should do so now.

$50,000 to back at 1.05 Laugh

I had to look twice to make sure I wasn't seeing things Surprised

They could miss, I suppose, but you wouldn't have thought so. Easiest $2,500 you'll prolly make all year Wink
By:
VeryLTU
When: 19 Jun 12 07:41
hubba hubba thats 23.8 consecutive days of dirty tarts at my local pain relief centre !!!!! too good to be true.. i'll just ring up centrelink with another 24 aliases and get the full 50 Wink
By:
VeryLTU
When: 19 Jun 12 07:43
ps:  don't back the dons till the ZACK is BACK !!!!
By:
blaah blaah
When: 19 Jun 12 19:36
This is one of the most immature threads I have ever had the misfortune to come across... Why don't you guys/gals stick to talking about the games instead of wanting to give each other a punting lesson ?
By:
CrazySnake
When: 20 Jun 12 03:04
Maturity isn't a prerequisite to joining this thread, blaah blaah. Just ask BJT Grin
By:
CrazySnake
When: 20 Jun 12 03:05
Agree, Very, Zaharakis is very important to them. I don't think people have factored that in because they think it's all about Jobe.
By:
logroller
When: 20 Jun 12 03:05
blaah blaah ........is not
By:
BJT
When: 20 Jun 12 04:02
Snake.  How do you claim to be a 12 year professional at this, and make a thread like this because you are becoming interested in framing your own markets? 

You are probably right.  You two are probably the only two that even know that there is other players playing for Essendon.
By:
Aussie Driver
When: 20 Jun 12 05:40
I notice someone on the racing thread betting in 6 races in 40 minutes Crazy

Can anyone say gambling problem?
By:
BJT
When: 20 Jun 12 06:02
Is that all you do all day?  Sit at a computer reading?  Focus on yourself old mate.  There is a big world out there.
By:
peteie68
When: 20 Jun 12 14:37
admittedly im a saints fan but the crows werent tired it was the fact we finally started kicking straight. crows at the line or demons at the line is what im debating. any thoughts
By:
logroller
When: 21 Jun 12 04:56
wouldnt be backing melbourne at the line, gws 1st time at the G will put up a good show imo, crows under the roof could hand north a old fashion spanking
By:
CrazySnake
When: 21 Jun 12 05:04
peteie68,

I am also a Saints fan. Crows were up by 38 points into the last quarter. That isn't just kicking, mate.
By:
Aussie Driver
When: 21 Jun 12 05:12
Did anyone see David King's analysis of top 8 teams vs other top 8 teams last night?

Interesting to note the two he had concerns about were West Coast and Adelaide due to their game style being vulnerable against the better teams. He made a lot of sense and raised some really good points imo

Was also interested in his very high rating of the bombers
By:
CrazySnake
When: 21 Jun 12 05:35
Will have to try and catch that on rerun
By:
logroller
When: 21 Jun 12 06:24
i'll have a look, but i reckon David King tries to hard to be insightful
By:
Lets Elope
When: 21 Jun 12 06:34
he's a sniper the same as he was as a player, he took a very cheap shot at mark neald a few weeks back and is now refusing to acknowledge that both adelaide and west coast have significantly improve.
I would love to see the eagles come out and thrash collingwood now, I would piss myself laughing at him then trying to back away from his assessment. Think the eagles are some chance of knocking off collingwood they have really set themselves for this game.
By:
logroller
When: 21 Jun 12 06:36
very wet here lets, dont think that helps wce chances
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