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By:
Joel
When: 16 May 12 06:56
Interesting that most markets worldwide fell..because of the recession in Australia? Or was it because of the dipsh1ts in Greece?
By:
Mrben
When: 16 May 12 07:04
glad your finally admitting we have a recession here in aust joel.
By:
Joel
When: 16 May 12 07:06
I didn't admit anything, I was just asking a question
By:
Mrben
When: 16 May 12 07:12
embrace the darkside joel- the truth lies with in.

its the recession- your already involved.Shocked
By:
uncleee
When: 16 May 12 07:59
its amazing how 7 months ago you could predict that greece wouldnt be able to form a government after its election! where do potential investors send the blank cheque?
By:
Mrben
When: 18 May 12 09:39
all ords down 110 points.CryCry

more than 110 billion lost in the latest downward phase.

resources stocks clobbered.

aussie dollar 98.5Cry

  dreadful economy now.
By:
lazza
When: 18 May 12 09:51
You nailed it MrB...again!
By:
Niccolo_Machiavelli
When: 18 May 12 15:25
A recession caused by the greed of people like MrBen,who in fact don't feel the recession because they make people who wouldn't know what a divined yield is, feel it for them.

Regards,
Niccolo
By:
Mrben
When: 22 May 12 01:37
Retravision southern{ tas, vic and southern nsw } goes into administration.

104 franchisees, their families and their employees all set to suffer.

A  recap of some of the events over the last months.

retravision-administration

sleep city- administration

colorado group-administration

WOW electronics- administration

borders- bankrupt

angus and robertson- bankrupt

jb hi fi- earnings downgraded

harvey norman- earnings downgraded

billabong- earnings downgraded

in the past year a total of 19 major bankruptcies or restructures.

515 major outlets closed in the last year

last week- St Hilliers building group- bankrupt

yesterday- Qantas to shed another 500 jobs immediatly and to close tullamarine maintenance permanently resulting in the loss of an additional 500 jobs directly and an unknown effect on suppliers.

more of the iceberg coming to the surface.

the recessionCry
By:
Niccolo_Machiavelli
When: 22 May 12 02:06
Are you saying the current government had a hand in this?
By:
gatespeed
When: 22 May 12 02:21
so we have all these retailers going out of business yet we still have low unemployment, where is everyone's money going?

TO THE BANKS!
By:
lazza
When: 22 May 12 02:29
The unemployment figures are not correct imo...They are manipulated.
By:
Mrben
When: 22 May 12 02:41
an excessive amount of disposable income is going to  every level of govt via fees, charges, taxes, fines.
By:
Niccolo_Machiavelli
When: 22 May 12 02:44
Do you have any links? Sounds like a interesting read.

Regards,
Niccolo
By:
lazza
When: 22 May 12 02:44
Are there any figures on what our Govts actually cost to run?
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 22 May 12 03:39
Mr Ben. I used to work for a company that used to sell to Retravison but we cut them off because they had many problems.
Bad payers, rumours of them going under
Most of the franchisees were old men that would not adopt new technologies. Competition had left them in the dust.

That was early 2007, & you're blaming the current government. Keep on buying the party line with no knowledge & it just shows you have little knowledge of business & the real world.

Until you work out that politics is full of people (on both sides) with no ability you will continue to post threads crying, whinging & playing one hell of a VICTIM. My advice to you is go & live somewhere else, we don't need your type in Australia
By:
erogenous_zone
When: 22 May 12 03:58
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By:
gatespeed
When: 22 May 12 04:08
gov spending has of course has increased but its dwarfed by the the increased rate of our private debt (and service payments - translation bank profits)

http://www.incrediblecharts.com/economy/keen_debt_gdp.php

you would never guess how the banks can keep lending to this magnitude....
By:
erogenous_zone
When: 22 May 12 04:10
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By:
Mrben
When: 22 May 12 04:33
pcrippoffLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughCrazy

what a laughable post. your more interested in attacking me than discussing the recession.

retravisison- early 2007- , incase you missed it- this  2012.!!!
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 22 May 12 04:50
That's right sunshine. Liberal govt had been in power when the company was going bust. Take the blinkers off beautiful
By:
Thebas
When: 22 May 12 05:34
spot on gatespeed ... the banks have it all ... and they pray to a higher banking god .. above them on the global level

banks need to write a loan ...

that loan debt ... can then be parlayed x 10 times into another loan

that is the arrangement they formulated with govts

and NO CONTROLS ... witness the usa and subprimes

they need to write a loan and can then write 10 more on the back of the first loan ... which is their right lol
By:
Niccolo_Machiavelli
When: 22 May 12 05:41
Thebas,

Did you read the article where Russia is saying American is abusing human rights towards their protesters?


Time for China and Russia intervention?? Lol

Regards,
Niccolo
By:
Mrben
When: 22 May 12 05:59
niccollo and pcrippoff- plz post your tripe on the polital thread, - not here.
By:
Thebas
When: 22 May 12 06:00
world is on a precipice niccolo ... the money will rule ... which countries are owned ... will behave .. the rouge states will at some stage bring things to a head
By:
Thebas
When: 22 May 12 06:00
sorry ben .. lol ... yes either way ... the recesh is closing in
By:
Niccolo_Machiavelli
When: 22 May 12 06:19
Recession?

We're 7% Bigger then we are before the GFC.
We have unlimited pipe coming in for money investments.
We just loaned IMF billions
Budget Surplus
4.9% Unemployment
Growing in trend
More jobs created under this Government then any other government.
By:
uncleee
When: 22 May 12 06:32
thebas, securitisation allows the hedging of risk, your referring mainly to speculating in cds (glodman sachs vs AIG)

but what do you expect, investment banks pay young graduates up to double all other sectors bar mining, obviously they will make money
By:
Mrben
When: 22 May 12 06:39
interestingly, all figures released by govt  paint a much rosier picture than events in the real world indicate.

wayne swann has pencilled in 3% growth for the budget.IMAHO.Most optimistic  figure by non govt sources is 2.2%

this brings us to the reserve bank which relies on govt data.This is why the RB is so far behind the curve. Interest rates are at least 50 basis points higher than they should be.

this as all splitting hairs a  bit though.

China is the elephant on our room. It lands hard, australia will be squashed.That, coupled with a world wide down turn and i doubt that any govt can stop or reduce the effects.
By:
Niccolo_Machiavelli
When: 22 May 12 06:57
What if the Liberals had got their way and our stimulus package was not given to the Australian people.

Our Economy would have collapsed years ago.
By:
AFL
When: 22 May 12 07:11
Graphs and charts not included due to formatting.

article can be found at c rikey.com.au


Checking the docket on how expensive it is to do business in Oz
by Bernard Keane
Friday, 4 May 2012
Update below

Australia is a high-cost place to do business, apparently.

I know because I read it in the papers regularly. Tom Albanese, of Rio Tinto, complained this week about the high cost of doing business in Australia. BG Group saying the cost of its Gladstone coal-seam gas project have blown out. The Business Council cited high costs back in April. One of those absurd “business roundtables” the AFR conducts, back in February, was given over to business executives lamenting “we’re becoming a high-cost, low-productivity nation”.

Usually the fault is laid at the blame of the government. Labor was “anti-business”, complained Graham Bradley in February, mainly because of the Fair Work Act. But the carbon tax cops criticism too. Today the head of the AIG complained that the carbon tax was creating uncertainty because, unlike the GST, businesses couldn’t calculate its impacts.

So let’s look at the evidence.

Has the Fair Work Act increased costs for business? Let’s look at the ABS’s unit labour cost index. When the index is above 100, wage pressures are assumed to exist. How has it fared under this government?

So, this is pretty much the only government in 30 years to eliminate wage pressures for business. The only area where the government has failed to curb wage pressures has been in executive remuneration, which continues to relentlessly increase at rates well ahead of inflation.

How about industrial disputes? Let’s have a look at the long-term trend. This is the number of days lost to industrial disputes per thousand employees. There was a much-vaunted spike in disputes in the September quarter last year, mostly driven by aggressive employers, but otherwise the level of disputes remains at historic lows.

What about the business cost that is in the direct control of government, tax? Last year’s budget papers tell us the ratio between company tax to corporate gross operating surplus:

That is, outside mining, the overall tax take from business has fallen as a proportion of gross operating surplus. Plus, there’s the small matter of the corporate tax cut the government wants to introduce, which the Coalition and the Greens are opposing. In fact, this is a low-taxing government compared to its predecessor. Remember the Coalition’s rhetoric about being the party of small government, then have a look at tax revenue as a proportion of GDP and figure out which side of politics taxes less:

What else could the government be doing? Well it could avoid stimulating the rest of the economy so companies in the resources sector such as BG Group that need construction workers and material aren’t competing against the rest of the economy. And, lo and behold, the government is engaged in a massive fiscal contraction even before we get to the issue of a budget surplus for 2012-13.

What about the carbon price? Is that really a major source of uncertainty for business? Innex Willox of the AI Group laments that the impact of the carbon price is harder to calculate than the GST. But the carbon price impact will be small compared to that of the GST. Work done by the CSIRO and AECOM for the Climate Institute shows the price impact from the carbon price will be 0.6%, barely above the impact of Cyclone Yasi last year (0.5%), less than Cyclone Larry (0.8%) and less than a quarter of the impact of the GST (2.5%).  Treasury’s assessment is that the impact will be 0.7%.

That’s the impact on consumers, not businesses, but it gives a clear idea of the scale of impact compared to the GST that Willox believes was so much easier.

The historical data suggests that, when it comes to labour and tax costs, the claim that Australia is becoming more expensive is dead wrong. In fact, it’s the reason why the wage share of national income is currently only just above its historic low of 52%, while the profit share is higher than at any time before 2008. And that’s why capital expenditure is at record levels?—?nearly 30% of GDP. The business decisions of investors contradicts the claim that we’re driving business away with high costs.

The issue is not so much whether Australian is becoming a more expensive place to do business, as whether Australian business will ever be satisfied or whether it will continue to push for ever more wage cuts and corporate tax cuts at the expense of the rest of us.

Update: The ACTU’s Matt Cowgill says I’ve misused unit labor costs - see comment 2. For a detailed treatment of the issue (esp. minimum wages) see pp.44-54 of the ACTU minimum wage submission linked to above (and here).
By:
Mrben
When: 22 May 12 08:44
interesting enuff  AFL

but relevance to recession?ConfusedConfusedConfused
By:
AFL
When: 22 May 12 08:53
This is a political thread. Wink
By:
Mrben
When: 23 May 12 01:35
Myer downgrades earnings- again.Begs the question- will they survive?

Fitch downgrades Japan from AAA to AA+

japan is our 2nd biggest resources customer.

aussie dollar smashed overnight to 97.66, a fresh 6 month low

norsk hydro consider closing its kurri kurri plant, threatening 350 jobs plus an unknown effect on suppliers.

the recessionCry
By:
Niccolo_Machiavelli
When: 23 May 12 01:48
Don't China have fitch rating of AA?

Need to take a leaf from Hitlers and Lincolns economic theories instead of idiots like MrBen.

What Recession?

Tell me MrBen,How would the Governments cut in public spending help us get though the "recession" like the Liberals intend to do.

Regards,
Niccolo
By:
AFL
When: 23 May 12 04:25
OECD names Australia among growth leaders
By Europe correspondent Rachael Brown and staff

Updated May 23, 2012 10:33:24
Edited transcript

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) says the Australian economy is expected to grow at a faster rate than most other advanced economies in 2012 and 2013.

The group's half-yearly report predicts that Australia's economy will grow at 3.1 per cent in 2012 and 3.7 per cent in 2013, and welcomes the Federal Government's commitment to delivering a budget surplus.


The OECD says Australia's strong mining sector will bolster economic growth in the next few years.

But it cautions that other sectors of the economy suffering due to the high dollar will have to raise productivity, which could affect the labour market.

The organisation has endorsed the Government's plan to boost its cash reserves while the economy is strong and demand for resource exports is still high, and says lowering interest rates will help offset any negative impact of budget tightening.

In the budget handed down earlier this month, the Federal Government forecast growth of about 3.25 per cent slowing to 3 per cent.

Federal Treasurer Wayne Swan says the report confirms yet again that Australia is the stand-out performer on the global stage.

"It's consistent with the fact that we have got solid growth, low unemployment, contained inflation, strong public finances and a record pipeline of business investment in resources," he said.

"I think it is good news. I mean, Australia has a triple-A credit rating from the three major credit rating agencies."


First posted May 23, 2012 06:47:38

Hang on a minute....Mrben says we are in a recession.

Laugh
By:
Mrben
When: 23 May 12 04:56
problem with the oecd estimations is that they have been too optimistic.Growth has continually undershot their estimates.

as I stated earlier- there seems to be a disconnect from govt figures  and real world events.

china just release its govt estimates for growth @ 8.25%- a laughable number by any measure.

those who study these kinds of numbers, non govt analyists, predict MAYBE , big MAYBE 6%, china needs 6% to break even with its population growth.

key here is- dont JUST rely on "official " figures. They  are put out by people who work for politicians, not even you would assert that politicians are honest.
By:
Mrben
When: 23 May 12 05:12
aussie dollar down from 1.08 to 97.52

all ords drops circa 400 points in the last 6 weeks

both signs of a strong economy- IMAHO!!!!

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By:
Mrben
When: 23 May 12 05:16
around 120 billion fall in the value of stocks in a month.

plenty of superannuation accounts shrinking by the day.

  which company is the next to go out the back door? Happening every week.

"The organisation has endorsed the Government's plan to boost its cash reserves while the economy is strong and demand for resource exports is still high "

tell that to those who paid 75$ for rio tinto, 6$ for fortescue and 39$ for BHP  a few months agoCry

those who hold resource stocks are crying.SadSadSadSadSad
By:
Mrben
When: 23 May 12 05:17
my posts relate to real world, certifiable facts.

not some fantasies of  various govt agencies that have an agenda to push.Angry
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