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By:
Jez_Punter
When: 29 Mar 11 10:16
Funny you might mention that Lazza, I was outraged, but not surprised when I read about this, this morning.

Eric Roozendaal said at the mid-year review late last year that the state of NSW is up for a $430 million surplus.

But guess what  CryCryCry

When the Coalition open up the Treasury books on Monday morning the true figures reveal a $4.5 billion black hole with the forecast budget position for the next financial year being $400 million in deficit ShockedShockedShocked

Labor have shamefully cooked the books - surprise sur-fkn-prise.  They've taken the public for fools.  This is the goodbye from NSW Labor - a massive slap in the face for the people of NSW.

We've seen the waste of pink batts from Rudd Labor, we've seen the MYKI billions wasted by Victorian Brumby Labor, we've seen an gross attack on our way of life from Gillard Labor with the carbon tax.......and now this financial deception from NSW Labor.

It begs the question, with Gillard Labor racking up $100m every day in debt - whats the true financial position of this country?

If you needed proof, Eric Roozendaal, Kristina Keneally - and NSW Labor is it - they've cooked the books for 16 long years.....

You can't trust Labor.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 29 Mar 11 10:21
If anyone can remedy the dire situation NSW finds itself in - its Barry O'Farrell. 

An enormous amount of trust in governance has been lost due to the corrupt and filthy nature of NSW Labor.  I'm confident the Coalition can rebuild the public's trust.
By:
lazza
When: 29 Mar 11 10:27
How can this happen Jez...Don't we have regulators and Accountants that watch this sort of thing.....Absolutely disgraceful...no wonder the Butcher that supplied the meat to Dubbo Hospital could nt get paid ffs

Jez maybe u can try and answer a Q for me ..if u can't I understand.

With this sale or part sale of the Electricity ...Did Labor pocket some of the money and funnel into their own ie Labor Party coffers?.....I'm hearing a billion went their way y/n Confused
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 29 Mar 11 10:40
I don't think they did mate.

I mean, I'm the first person to have a crack at the b*stards[;)]

But I don't think they funnelled any of the proceeds of the privatisation into the party coffers - that would be one hell of a swindle.

Interestingly, the Coalition and the Greens (an unlikely union) have said they will look to reverse the power sale legislation.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 29 Mar 11 10:43
For political gain, Roozendaal has overstated the NSW economic position - which is real dodgy, no doubt about it.

The new Premier has already stood down the Treasury Secretary pending a review of the state's finances.
By:
lazza
When: 29 Mar 11 10:43
imo They have to....The whole thing has been forced upon us and that sort of infrastructure needs a proper valuation put on it...not just a price that would produce a quick sale ffs
By:
wombleoz
When: 29 Mar 11 10:46
you should change your name to Dorothy Dix Lazza Laugh
By:
lazza
When: 29 Mar 11 10:54
I'm not an activist in anyway Womble...but surely our system of Governance needs to be looked at if the Elected Party can keep treasury secrets like this away from it's constituents.
By:
wombleoz
When: 29 Mar 11 11:07
happens every time there is a change of government Lazza, doesn't make it right but....
By:
lazza
When: 29 Mar 11 11:11
No it's not right at all Womble...Just goes to show how fkn useless the press is at finding out sh1t...The media is a joke!
By:
lazza
When: 29 Mar 11 11:17
Me and Roozy go way back lol
By:
lazza
When: 29 Mar 11 11:24
Hey ...He chose the Darkside....I on the other hand chose the Gallops ha ha
By:
secong coming.
When: 30 Mar 11 22:02
and still no detail from the weakest govt of all time, little snippets of garbage sprouting from garnouts mouth trying to scare people into thinking we NEED this tax or else.
if anything making the cause worse hahahaha, lame duck pm and losing her state allies quickly,
next its GO ANNA i mean go go go get out of office you have bankrupted qld when all through the good times mining boom you spent the lot and THEN SOME
By:
secong coming.
When: 30 Mar 11 22:03
*garnaut
By:
wombleoz
When: 30 Mar 11 22:21
I'm thinking we'll see the detail in the budget Secong - so early May, have some patience

Caught up with my nephew on the weekend - gets paid a just above the average income, 2 young sons, wife does some night fill to help out paying a mortgage that is too big but pretty standard - Abbott has done his job and scared him with all the talk of a great big new tax - politics of fear alive and well. So I do agree in some part that Julia has to get some detail, especially about the compensation out there ASAP so people relax a bit - bloody Abbott, let people enjoy their lives you mug [>o]
By:
secong coming.
When: 30 Mar 11 22:42
Laugh
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 31 Mar 11 08:44
Abbott scaring people?

What did Labor do with the GST, wombleoz?
Did they run a scare campaign?
They did ya clown. 

But Howard took it to an election with detail and it doesn't (unlike a carbon tax) rise year in year out, forever.

Instead we have a government with a pathetic and clumsy record, declaring desperately before an election "there will be no carbon tax", then saying its bringing one in, without details and it will rise EVERY single year - and you expect the Opposition to sit back and smile in agreement and without any questions asked.

LaughLaughLaugh

Your an elephant-sized hypocrite, wombleoz.  Fair dinkum.
And thats just the tip of your iceberg.

If you think people are going to "relax" or the Opposition is going to let-up campaigning and making people aware of this farcical policy you can DREAM ON, wombleoz.

This tax is fundamentally flawed and its economic and people impact will be hard-hitting and brutal. 

Its effect on the environment:  NOTHING.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 31 Mar 11 08:52
I found these comments from Tim Flannery, "Australian of the Year" and Climate Commissioner very interesting:

"Just let me finish and say this. If the world as a whole cut all emissions tomorrow the average temperature of the planet is not going to drop in several hundred years, perhaps as much as a thousand years because the system is overburdened with CO2 that has to be absorbed and that only happens slowly."

LaughLaughLaughLaugh

If we get this tax, you can hear them in 2020 and onwards saying the same thing "this carbon tax takes thousands of years for a result".

An absolute abomination.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 31 Mar 11 08:56
YOU PAY, NOTHING HAPPENS, but hey, with a bit of luck and a fair breeze in a few thousands years, WILL HIT PAYDIRT and the temperature will drop by 0.0000001 of a degree.

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

Cue the usual nonsense from AFL and wombleoz.

"you don't care about the planet do you?"
"think of our childrens childrens childrens childrens...etc"
"we have do something"

Read Tim Flannery's word very carefully, I don't know, but am I cynical if I think a thousand years is a long time for some sort of iffy, maybe, possible RESULT?  Laugh

"Just let me finish and say this. If the world as a whole cut all emissions tomorrow the average temperature of the planet is not going to drop in several hundred years, perhaps as much as a thousand years because the system is overburdened with CO2 that has to be absorbed and that only happens slowly."
ShockedShockedShockedShocked
By:
AFL
When: 31 Mar 11 09:06
So Abbotts choice is going to save the enviornment is it? LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 31 Mar 11 09:11
The environment doesn't need saving.

You do though, from YOURSELF!  Ya clown!

Abbott's choice, as you call it, will actually DO SOMETHING for the environment - a carbon tax achieves one thing - added pain for working Australian's and a weaker Australian economy - plus the ripple effects from that.

A carbon tax does nothing for environment or reducing pollution - but the Coalition's policy does - it achieves direct action and REAL results - not in a thousand yearsLaugh - but within months of getting off the ground.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 31 Mar 11 09:13
Do you know who Tim Flannery is, AFL?

Here's his words from last week;

HIS WORDS, not mine.  And this bloke is a "global warming" "climate change" crusader:

"Just let me finish and say this. If the world as a whole cut all emissions tomorrow the average temperature of the planet is not going to drop in several hundred years, perhaps as much as a thousand years because the system is overburdened with CO2 that has to be absorbed and that only happens slowly."
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 31 Mar 11 09:14
And geniuses like wombleoz wonder why the public are nervous.

A thousand years for little result but a great deal of wallet and economic pain......ffs

It's a no brainer for mine.

Time to change the government - thats the only way to stop this con.
By:
wombleoz
When: 31 Mar 11 10:10
why is abbott doing anything in that case Jez???

fair point re the gst scare campaign
By:
AFL
When: 31 Mar 11 10:15
Interesting why he doesn't criticise Rabbitt for wasting money on a dubious concept.
By:
AFL
When: 31 Mar 11 10:17
Ohh I see......It's ok for Rabbitt to waste money....but not Julia. LaughLaughLaugh
By:
AFL
When: 31 Mar 11 10:18
Clown. Laugh
By:
wombleoz
When: 31 Mar 11 10:21
agreed AFL and he calls me a hypocrit Laugh
By:
AFL
When: 31 Mar 11 10:26
He's all over the shop...... a bit like Tony imoLaugh
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 31 Mar 11 11:19
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Negative or Position, the comrades try to tear Tony down.

Bit of objectivity boys, fkn hell.

Both leaders were at each others throats for the past few weeks - and I doubt it did either any favours, with the performances in Parliament very circus-like.

Both have turned to policy.

Gillards tackling GST re-distribution.  A very BROAD review, with very little detail.

Whilst Tony Abbott is continuing to release Coalition policy - this time on welfare.  It isn't about condemning, attacking or targeting the vulnerable or disabled.  It's about a hand-up not a handout.  It's about providing opportunities.

I think employment for those with disabilities is quite difficult - there are many unnecessary barriers - this is something that needs to be addressed.
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 31 Mar 11 11:19
Position = Positive
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 31 Mar 11 11:25
Whats this Ok for Tony, not Ok for Julia, nonsense.

It's very clear.  Very simple.  Even for you two, to comprehend.

Julia said, no carbon tax before the election.
Now she's implementing one.  With details no where to be seen.
A tax that hurts working Australians and the economy.
A tax that is fundamentally flawed and serves no environmental purpose, whatsoever.

Tony said, we'll implement a direct action policy.  From EXISTING REVENUE and Budget Savings.  Real action with real outcomes (not in a thousand years, but in the short term, LOL) - nothing wrong with cleaning up our environment (taking the climate change argument out of the picture) and the Coalition's plan gets down and dirty to address exactly that - for example, a significant tree-planting program.

The argument is weak.
The sales people are HOPELESS.Laugh
And the tax is fundamentally flawed.

The Coalition and Tony Abbott win hands down on this one.

The government are on a loser.  Gillard is gone.

(P.S - you boys are sounding increasingly desperate)
By:
Jez_Punter
When: 31 Mar 11 11:26
P.S - a remind of Tim Flannery's comments, which are pretty relevent when it comes to Gillard's proposed Carbon Dioxide TAX.


"Just let me finish and say this. If the world as a whole cut all emissions tomorrow the average temperature of the planet is not going to drop in several hundred years, perhaps as much as a thousand years because the system is overburdened with CO2 that has to be absorbed and that only happens slowly."


LaughLaughLaughLaugh

ffs
By:
wombleoz
When: 31 Mar 11 11:37
simple question though Jez - if it's going to have no benefit why do you support Abbott's policy???
By:
AFL
When: 31 Mar 11 11:43
Shocked
By:
Thebas
When: 01 Apr 11 02:02
well done secong in bringing this thread to light ... the truth would always come out

julia has been blackmailed enticed demanded upon courted tricked deceived

and then she attempted to deceive our nation

this will never be forgotten

old news now lol ... but secong and jez were onto this ... before her deceipt to her nation

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/
latest/8916664/carbon-tax-billions-
to-help-poor-nations/
By:
secong coming.
When: 01 Apr 11 02:44
thanks thebas

nothing new from the queen of lies, the main reason she stabbed kevvie imo

she and her cronies should be tried for treason imvho
By:
secong coming.
When: 01 Apr 11 03:18
"Just let me finish and say this. If the world as a whole cut all emissions tomorrow the average temperature of the planet is not going to drop in several hundred years, perhaps as much as a thousand years because the system is overburdened with CO2 that has to be absorbed and that only happens slowly."


i hope my childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens childrens children keep this thread going until 4020 to prove the original start of this thread is correct
By:
Thebas
When: 01 Apr 11 03:38
there was always an alterior motive ... and there will be more revelations to come ... as the un demands more money from the 'rich' west

which was why a gst hike was a better solution to her ridiculous problems in staving off the UN running australia (and eventually all countries) ...

if the money grab hike is NOT consumer based ... then the 'richest' people in australia pay $600 a year more as does the 'poorest' person ... the rich don't care .. the poor get compensated ... and guess who pays ...  middle oz ... who are only trying to improve their lot for their kids

pity about the environment tho ... but she never cared about that
By:
secong coming.
When: 01 Apr 11 04:02
and womble and afl blindly choose to ignore this.........you wont find a single response to this from them 1.01
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